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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 14 2010 21:30 GMT
#18081
it is if you need to use your other abilities at all.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 14 2010 21:33 GMT
#18082
true, i only occasionally used parley and never used fruits, so i suppose in a more challenging lane it might be harder, but just sayin, its not the hardest thing in terms of mana consumption, esp since i wasnt running mp5s and had 0 in utility.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 14 2010 21:35 GMT
#18083
... -_-' against a competent lane, you usually need a mana regen item, meditation and runes in my experience, LOL.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
September 14 2010 21:38 GMT
#18084
I think denying all game is helpful. Denying something once every wave will give your team an experience advantage similar to zilean's passive.

Also keep in mind that you can continue to deny even if if you want to push. Just deny a target with very low hp that is about to die if you want to push. If you want to keep the lane on your side, deny a full HP minion and just last-hit.

Melee should always be denied over caster minions because they are worth more 32 more experience each.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 14 2010 21:39 GMT
#18085
lol ya, totally agree, but u cant deny that raise morale is significantly more spammable than say, sions stun. its not impossible to manage your mana and do a decent balancing act of deny, parley and fruits in the early laning stages, esp if you've got ur mana regen goin
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 14 2010 21:40 GMT
#18086
Does LW work with Parrrley?
#1 LoL player
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 14 2010 21:42 GMT
#18087
yes
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 21:50:59
September 14 2010 21:50 GMT
#18088
On September 15 2010 04:44 Fishcakes wrote:
Does perseverance work on hp and mana pots?


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=248691

why doesn't anyone know anything on official boards for any game? ever? goddamn.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 21:54:24
September 14 2010 21:53 GMT
#18089
no it doesn't. it only works on things that specifically increase regeneration.

EDIT: To clarify, if the effect is in effect and you hit 'C' to bring up your character stats and you don't see any change to your HP Regen or Mana Regen, then perseverance doesn't work with it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 14 2010 21:58 GMT
#18090
@mogwai: Thanks.

On September 15 2010 05:34 STS17 wrote:
I was just making a joke at the assassin type that shaco is Mog...

Regardless, jungle-wick is completely unfair in unranked. I was helping my friend level up last night so we can finally play ranked together and the guys we were facing were so bad I literally was playing as AP warwick and could still almost 1v5 the other team.

Edit: Just looked at the new champ. Anyone else getting tired of all these crazy AoE ults? It just feels like certain champs will eventually fall by the wayside because they can't do something to everyone at the same time.


They said I was MAD.

In low level games jungle warwick decides the game pretty much every time. When a warwick sucks the joke with my friend and I is that we know something is wrong when he doesn't ace the enemy team at 25 minutes.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Fishcakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States149 Posts
September 14 2010 22:14 GMT
#18091
Ya, never trust general forums for anything. Even Riot trolls the forums,

I still like perseverance just for that fact that it increases mana regen, If it didnt have the hp regen in it i still would get it anyways. If you dont use mana 1 pt in perseverance is 2% hp regen. (For some reason Perseverance goes 2%/3%/4%)
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
September 14 2010 22:19 GMT
#18092
On September 15 2010 06:07 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2010 06:02 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 15 2010 05:24 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm trying jungle eve right now.

what's the route and skill order?



i've determined she can't solo golem and going anything but hatespike in the jungle will result in extreme underleveling

but i still went 5-4-14 and forced their carry to buy 4 oracles lolololol 2 good

I'm pretty sure she can solo golem. You have to open with Red Elixier though, maybe even Smite + Ignite is a must. She definitely doesn't have it as easy as WW.


1/16/13, Cloth + 5 Pots can get you Golem. Pot works too, but that's probably because you're going AP, which really fails in jungling past level 5.

Opening Small Golems is a better idea, since you can hit 3 before getting Mana Golem
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 14 2010 22:21 GMT
#18093
Are there only easy bots in practice mode? Cause if so, that's pretty lame.
God Bless
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 14 2010 22:27 GMT
#18094
I use bot practice to get used to a new character before playing a legit game with it or farming IP. I'm sure Riot could make better AI in the bots but it would be a waste of time since there are real people to play.
ô¿ô
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
September 14 2010 22:32 GMT
#18095
if I have 450-650 gold on my first trip back as a jungling olaf should I buy a long sword towards razor, boots 1, or dagger towards zerkers? Assuming I'm going to get lizard and try to gank mid or bottom.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 14 2010 22:33 GMT
#18096
On September 15 2010 07:19 Yiruru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2010 06:07 spinesheath wrote:
On September 15 2010 06:02 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 15 2010 05:24 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm trying jungle eve right now.

what's the route and skill order?



i've determined she can't solo golem and going anything but hatespike in the jungle will result in extreme underleveling

but i still went 5-4-14 and forced their carry to buy 4 oracles lolololol 2 good

I'm pretty sure she can solo golem. You have to open with Red Elixier though, maybe even Smite + Ignite is a must. She definitely doesn't have it as easy as WW.


1/16/13, Cloth + 5 Pots can get you Golem. Pot works too, but that's probably because you're going AP, which really fails in jungling past level 5.

Opening Small Golems is a better idea, since you can hit 3 before getting Mana Golem



thanks. i've been opening cloth + 2 pots + ward so i can smitesteal and generally cause their jungler havoc. what item and skill build do you use? i think i need hate spike to make any jungle speed, but stealthstun is so much more important for ganks and ravage is nice too. items = tank or AP? :s

2-1 so far just making it up as i go along, i'm pretty impressed with myself
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
September 14 2010 22:37 GMT
#18097
It's so frustrating searching for a builds that aren't listed in the OP. You can't see all messages now so it's impossible to ctrl-f search. I'm trying to find Phrost's singed build =(
MIK Terran
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 14 2010 22:39 GMT
#18098
On September 15 2010 07:37 Ruken wrote:
It's so frustrating searching for a builds that aren't listed in the OP. You can't see all messages now so it's impossible to ctrl-f search. I'm trying to find Phrost's singed build =(


RoA, swiftness, tank items accordingly, i believe
double RoA if they're bad or squishy
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 14 2010 22:47 GMT
#18099
I've read a couple guides and it's usually rush double catalyst, buy boots when your opponents buy boots, upgrade boots when your opponent upgrades boots. Usually 2 RoAs or 1 RoA 1 Banshee if you need to tank a bit.
ô¿ô
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 14 2010 22:48 GMT
#18100
On September 15 2010 07:27 R04R wrote:
I use bot practice to get used to a new character before playing a legit game with it or farming IP. I'm sure Riot could make better AI in the bots but it would be a waste of time since there are real people to play.

Same, I'd like to try out a new character, builds and stuff on a bot for the first time before I actually use it in a real game. But the bots are jokes so...
God Bless
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