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On September 08 2010 22:46 ghen wrote:
A day late but here's the free champs if you need the list.

Week 9 (this week):

Amumu, Annie, Ashe, Kayle, Kennen, Poppy, Tristana, Tryndamere, Urgot, Zilean

On September 08 2010 22:46 ghen wrote:
A day late but here's the free champs if you need the list.

Week 9 (this week):

Amumu, Annie, Ashe, Kayle, Kennen, Poppy, Tristana, Tryndamere, Urgot, Zilean

On September 08 2010 22:46 ghen wrote:
A day late but here's the free champs if you need the list.

Week 9 (this week):

Amumu, Annie, Ashe, Kayle, Kennen, Poppy, Tristana, Tryndamere, Urgot, Zilean

On September 08 2010 22:45 spinesheath wrote:
It's 5 MP5, and yes I would prefer it over 5% damage if I have mana issues. Especially because of how the damage bonus works.

On September 08 2010 23:55 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Started playing some Annie since she's free and teemo is not free and my god

EZ MODE
Q that restores mana on kill?
INFINITE MANA

On September 09 2010 00:20 Jupiter.sKy wrote:
Servers are back up, Miss Fortune is 6300

I just don't think there's a way for me to convince you. This is what you see:

R (AoE Stun)
W
Q
E
Q
W (AoE Stun)

Double AoE Stun within 8 second - CDR time frame. And I can't deny that that's strong. But it's ENTIRELY burst oriented. In the metagame of 8 months ago, where it was literally just AoE spam, blow up the opposing team in 1 go, Annie was hands down the best caster because of this, but the gameplay has become a lot more dynamic and teamfights have shifted to drawn out affairs that take upwards of a minute to be decided.

The things that Kass really excels at are:
1. Kassadin at level 6+ provides a much larger map presence than Annie does. He is instantly there to support scuffles in the jungle.
2. No one escapes Kassadin. Literally no one. You know those fights where Ez does Cleanse -> E out of your bear stun and then Kites your tanks away from the fight? That doesn't happen vs. Kass, he simply latches onto someone who needs to die and kills them, period, end of story. There is nothing that can save you from Kass.
3. Similarly, no one can catch Kass. I've seen losing teamfights net practically nothing for the winning team because they have 3 people left with semi-low health getting kited around the jungle by Kassadin and if they ever split, he'll simply burst kill the straggler and riftwalk on out.
4. Whereas Annie's CC tapers off after the first 8 seconds of a fight (no shield or tibbers to keep her spell count up), Kassadin provides a consistent point and click silence on a 9 second CD + an absolutely brutal 50% slow on a 5 second CD that has essentially no extra constraints in a teamfight. Yes it's weaker CC, but in a 20 second fight, Annie MIGHT get 2 AoE Stuns + 1 single target stun, whereas Kassadin will get 3 silences and 4 or 5 AoE slows. This is ignoring the fact that if Kassadin's a threat, he can still weave around the fight without dying, whereas Annie will be FFed down and killed after her first stun most likely.
5. Just like with CC, Kassadin's sustained damage in a fight is higher, despite having weaker burst. Post-Tibbers, Annie has:
4 Second CD, 260 damage, 0.6 AP ratio single target nuke
8 Second CD, 325 damage, 0.6 AP ratio AoE nuke
Kass has:
9 Second CD, 280 damage, 0.7 AP ratio single target nuke
5 Second CD, 300 damage, 0.8 AP ratio AoE nuke
4 Second CD, 120 x number of recent uses damage, 0.4 AP ratio Flash
6. Annie has real problems with Banshee's Veil and has to work around it awkwardly by not quite having stun procced, then burning either Q or W to strip it and then blowing her load, which slows the 2nd stun by your Qs cooldown at least. Kassadin barely gives a ****. He decides whether he needs you slowed (Melee DPS/Tank) or silenced and just uses the other ability to strip your veil, then kites you around while waiting for CDs.
7. Kassadin can poke with his abilities. If there's a standoff as Annie, you cannot afford to be the one poking at the other team because your combo is set in stone and needs to have everything setup already. Kassadin on the other hand just doesn't care and can poke away with Qs and Ws to his heart's content.

On September 09 2010 00:49 Mogwai wrote:
So speaking of annie, I'm trying to convince people on smashboards that Kassadin is better than she and I said this:

Am I missing anything?

On September 09 2010 00:49 Mogwai wrote:
So speaking of annie, I'm trying to convince people on smashboards that Kassadin is better than she and I said this:



Am I missing anything?

On September 09 2010 00:57 Southlight wrote:


You forgot to go get mutilated by a monkey.

On September 09 2010 00:57 spinesheath wrote:
Sooo I'm gonna stop playing singed for now. Sure if I am in a good situation, I can do whatever I want. But if my allies suck, I feel completely unable to do anything. Even if I am farmed well, as soon as my enemies hop on me with permastun/BR I die. Doesn't matter how long it takes if my allies don't do anything or are dead. Couple that with the fact that I sometimes am just a bit too cocky so I actually die because of that...
Guess I'll try Kayle next, after all she's a bit more like Ashe than Singed. And she's dirt cheap.

Ha, I told ya MF will be 6300!

On September 09 2010 00:20 Jupiter.sKy wrote:
Servers are back up, Miss Fortune is 6300