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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 02 2010 00:50 GMT
#15821
hmmmm...best mantra ever?

Remember, Olaf fights like a man, he does not run like a teemo
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 02 2010 01:35 GMT
#15822
On September 02 2010 09:35 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Every time I play teemo, i get a bunch of retards on my team.

I got called a noob for not harassing against a Morde/Panth lane. Second I come within range to blind one of em im stunned and insta gibbed lol.

Dunno how this champ is viable, too damn squishy. Panths spear was doing 20% of my health..

Oh and the idiot telling me off was our 'jungle' olaf who died 3 times in like 5m. Before the game seemed to start.

Who said Teemo was viable O.O
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Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 01:42:20
September 02 2010 01:40 GMT
#15823
is there any way to play against Kog'maw in solo queue?
god he is soooo strong, and it seems if you don't have the perfect hero comp against him you will just outright die.
Why does he deal so much damage, so fast, at ridiculous range?
I'm sad.

edit: I wish there were replays to post so people could tell me what I did wrong, fucking riot.
now I'm even sadder.
chooooch
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 01:45:32
September 02 2010 01:44 GMT
#15824
How to beat Kog'Maw:
Play one of the like 20 heroes that can instagib him.

The only problem with solo queue is often you can't rely on a teammate to do that.
Who do you usually play?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 01:59:44
September 02 2010 01:47 GMT
#15825
On September 02 2010 10:44 Tooplark wrote:
How to beat Kog'Maw:
Play one of the like 20 heroes that can instagib him.

The only problem with solo queue is often you can't rely on a teammate to do that.
Who do you usually play?


that's easier said than done with a team that protects him, and with his huge range and summoners.

Oh, I played vlad, and faced off against him mid, I did okay I guess, I couldn't out harass him since he outranges me, especially after the Q nerf, so I just tried to farm as good as I could.
At level 9 I obviously took control of the lane, he was to self confident in his lane control, so I just out harassed him with q and managed to kill him.
But didn't matter, he just stream rolled the entire team. He queue up with a taric and they just stuck together from there.

our team was a fail comp anyway, but still it was so frustrating not being able to do anything against him.
chooooch
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
September 02 2010 01:49 GMT
#15826
On September 02 2010 09:35 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Every time I play teemo, i get a bunch of retards on my team.

I got called a noob for not harassing against a Morde/Panth lane. Second I come within range to blind one of em im stunned and insta gibbed lol.

Dunno how this champ is viable, too damn squishy. Panths spear was doing 20% of my health..

Oh and the idiot telling me off was our 'jungle' olaf who died 3 times in like 5m. Before the game seemed to start.



Teemo seems reasonable viable to me
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 02 2010 01:57 GMT
#15827
That's your smurf though haha.

I don't know, I've never seen a teemo that impressed me, ever.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 02 2010 02:00 GMT
#15828
I got completely dicked over by a Teemo one game. He made it his job to shut me (Olaf) down in teamfights and my team was too busy focusing Rammus to do something. He wasn't even playing Teemo to his full potential (i.e. abusing shrooms for map control). Still, Teemo's rather weak and only a good counterpick.
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radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
September 02 2010 02:09 GMT
#15829
On September 02 2010 10:57 HazMat wrote:
That's your smurf though haha.

I don't know, I've never seen a teemo that impressed me, ever.



I'd guess my "smurf" is 18xx ELO (unranked) at this point, so I'm generally against fairly strong competition that are often lvl 30 with full T3 runes.

I haven't been playing him as much on my main, but I still win games at a good clip with him.

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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2010 03:11 GMT
#15830
On September 02 2010 10:40 Kexx wrote:
is there any way to play against Kog'maw in solo queue?



On August 31 2010 14:02 gtrsrs wrote:
for everyone having trouble with kog, just counterpick with *any* dps champ with a flash-type move. ezreal eats kog alive, akali eats kog alive, xin is literally auto-win against kog (brutalizer + ad damage item + any attack speed item, i like wits end/BRs = he dies in 1 combo), i have even had success against kog with shen, although you're really just disabling him so someone else can get him if you're shen. olaf destroys kogmaw so hard it's not even funny. in theory WW should do pretty well against kogmaw but don't quote me on that

or pick any of the champs intended to displace ranged carries. alistar, blitz, urgot, singed, rammus all have the ability to take a few hits from kog as they run in and pull him out of position. if you're losing to kog maw it's because you're losing a position battle. if you *let* him stand behind 4 tanky champs he's going to have a field day. if you don't have one of the above champs or someone similar, the best way to avoid an extremely fed carry is to just avoid 5v5's. push all 3 lanes at one time. if they gank 1 lane, you get 1 or 2 towers in another lane. if they push 5 down the middle, send 2 to push side lanes and 3 to defend. just don't force a fight you can't win.

like honestly this sounds counterintuitive but i've been having a ton of success in solo queue by taking champs that have high dps, and taking teleport. i stay on the opposite side of the map as my team at all times, and any time a fight breaks out
(a)it's a 5v4, i get a free tower
(a1)and my team gets wiped, they're bad, we were going to lose anyways
(a2)and my team holds our tower/dragon/baron/inhib

(b)the other team sends someone to deal with me and
(b1)i kill them because i'm a carry, and get a free tower
(b2)they scare me off the tower, but my team wins the 4v4
(b3)they scare me off the tower and my team loses the 4v4 because they fucking suck and we were going to lose anyways

(c)the other team disengages because i've done this 3 times and i'm pushing their inhib while they dick around, our tower is now safe


i dunno seems to work okay
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 02 2010 03:30 GMT
#15831
On August 31 2010 14:02 gtrsrs wrote:
for everyone having trouble with kog, just counterpick with *any* dps champ with a flash-type move. ezreal eats kog alive, akali eats kog alive, xin is literally auto-win against kog (brutalizer + ad damage item + any attack speed item, i like wits end/BRs = he dies in 1 combo), i have even had success against kog with shen, although you're really just disabling him so someone else can get him if you're shen. olaf destroys kogmaw so hard it's not even funny. in theory WW should do pretty well against kogmaw but don't quote me on that
so what happens when you jump in and 4 tanks insta-gib you? ezreal's jump is to get out and stay out of sticky situations, not to jump into one. i can imagine xin has a little bit better success but semi-squishy jumpers aren't gonna do shit against a good team. there are going to be a very few number of instances when kogmaw exposes himself to an ezreal or something.

you know who's good at killing kog? the SINISTER FUCKING BLADE. return of kat inc.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 02 2010 03:40 GMT
#15832
There's one teemo out there in at least the top 500 who impressed me... and I can't remember his name for the life of me but he plays a really sneaky and annoying teemo. He will ghost his way to the enemy golem asap and hide there and wait until the jungler is almost done/done the golem and then insta gib him. He's the only teemo I wouldn't groan at for playing teemo (if I could remember his name).
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 04:07:07
September 02 2010 04:06 GMT
#15833
On September 02 2010 12:40 Chrispy wrote:
There's one teemo out there in at least the top 500 who impressed me... and I can't remember his name for the life of me but he plays a really sneaky and annoying teemo. He will ghost his way to the enemy golem asap and hide there and wait until the jungler is almost done/done the golem and then insta gib him. He's the only teemo I wouldn't groan at for playing teemo (if I could remember his name).


is it lilac? I saw him on stream absolutely raping as teemo
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 02 2010 04:07 GMT
#15834
i know theres that korean guy rvjsy or w/e thats terrible and only plays teemo yet he is somehow 1700
Brees on in
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2010 04:21 GMT
#15835
On September 02 2010 12:30 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 14:02 gtrsrs wrote:
for everyone having trouble with kog, just counterpick with *any* dps champ with a flash-type move. ezreal eats kog alive, akali eats kog alive, xin is literally auto-win against kog (brutalizer + ad damage item + any attack speed item, i like wits end/BRs = he dies in 1 combo), i have even had success against kog with shen, although you're really just disabling him so someone else can get him if you're shen. olaf destroys kogmaw so hard it's not even funny. in theory WW should do pretty well against kogmaw but don't quote me on that
so what happens when you jump in and 4 tanks insta-gib you? ezreal's jump is to get out and stay out of sticky situations, not to jump into one. i can imagine xin has a little bit better success but semi-squishy jumpers aren't gonna do shit against a good team. there are going to be a very few number of instances when kogmaw exposes himself to an ezreal or something.

you know who's good at killing kog? the SINISTER FUCKING BLADE. return of kat inc.


well ezrael isn't the initiator... so just wait for the fight to start, jump to the back on top of kogmaw, and pack his shit in. you're not a bad player this isn't a hard concept. in regards to if kogmaw has better positioning... he's just a better player then. he was going to win anyways. if you can't be crafty enough to beat 4 tanks walling for a ranged carry then you just aren't good at this game...
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2010 04:24 GMT
#15836
all that being said, i just got carried by a kogmaw who was like 22-9-35 who could kill their entire team in a matter of seconds. i was 2-20-10 urgot. the beautiful thing about it was i was feeding so hard that the other team just assumed i was terrible and jumped on me first every single teamfight. i'd pop my ult for the bonus 5 seconds of invincibility and let them wail on me while our kog decimated them. normal games are fun
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 04:32:50
September 02 2010 04:26 GMT
#15837
On September 02 2010 13:07 Brees wrote:
i know theres that korean guy rvjsy or w/e thats terrible and only plays teemo yet he is somehow 1700
On September 01 2010 14:18 redtooth wrote:
my team:
me pinoc atlanta dyrus random (2 WCG players, 1 better-than-WCG player, 1 High Elo, 1 random)
During champ select Atlanta says something along the lines of "wtf if this is our team then who the hell are we against?" I go into the game expecting easy 20 minute win while messing around. Overall enjoyable game incoming.

their team:

MLK - 1 kogmaw abuser playing taric, aka EZ mode

random plays teemo. dies 9 times and fail-bait teamfights. we end up losing with that team zzzzz.
wow... i guess he's not a random.

On September 02 2010 13:21 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 12:30 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 14:02 gtrsrs wrote:
for everyone having trouble with kog, just counterpick with *any* dps champ with a flash-type move. ezreal eats kog alive, akali eats kog alive, xin is literally auto-win against kog (brutalizer + ad damage item + any attack speed item, i like wits end/BRs = he dies in 1 combo), i have even had success against kog with shen, although you're really just disabling him so someone else can get him if you're shen. olaf destroys kogmaw so hard it's not even funny. in theory WW should do pretty well against kogmaw but don't quote me on that
so what happens when you jump in and 4 tanks insta-gib you? ezreal's jump is to get out and stay out of sticky situations, not to jump into one. i can imagine xin has a little bit better success but semi-squishy jumpers aren't gonna do shit against a good team. there are going to be a very few number of instances when kogmaw exposes himself to an ezreal or something.

you know who's good at killing kog? the SINISTER FUCKING BLADE. return of kat inc.
well ezrael isn't the initiator... so just wait for the fight to start, jump to the back on top of kogmaw, and pack his shit in. you're not a bad player this isn't a hard concept. in regards to if kogmaw has better positioning... he's just a better player then. he was going to win anyways. if you can't be crafty enough to beat 4 tanks walling for a ranged carry then you just aren't good at this game...
you're right. thanks for the advice =D
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ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
September 02 2010 04:29 GMT
#15838
On September 02 2010 13:21 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 12:30 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 14:02 gtrsrs wrote:
for everyone having trouble with kog, just counterpick with *any* dps champ with a flash-type move. ezreal eats kog alive, akali eats kog alive, xin is literally auto-win against kog (brutalizer + ad damage item + any attack speed item, i like wits end/BRs = he dies in 1 combo), i have even had success against kog with shen, although you're really just disabling him so someone else can get him if you're shen. olaf destroys kogmaw so hard it's not even funny. in theory WW should do pretty well against kogmaw but don't quote me on that
so what happens when you jump in and 4 tanks insta-gib you? ezreal's jump is to get out and stay out of sticky situations, not to jump into one. i can imagine xin has a little bit better success but semi-squishy jumpers aren't gonna do shit against a good team. there are going to be a very few number of instances when kogmaw exposes himself to an ezreal or something.

you know who's good at killing kog? the SINISTER FUCKING BLADE. return of kat inc.


well ezrael isn't the initiator... so just wait for the fight to start, jump to the back on top of kogmaw, and pack his shit in. you're not a bad player this isn't a hard concept. in regards to if kogmaw has better positioning... he's just a better player then. he was going to win anyways. if you can't be crafty enough to beat 4 tanks walling for a ranged carry then you just aren't good at this game...


If four tanks can't keep you off their carry then they just arent good at this game and you will win anyway.
Derp
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 02 2010 04:37 GMT
#15839
On September 02 2010 13:21 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 12:30 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 14:02 gtrsrs wrote:
for everyone having trouble with kog, just counterpick with *any* dps champ with a flash-type move. ezreal eats kog alive, akali eats kog alive, xin is literally auto-win against kog (brutalizer + ad damage item + any attack speed item, i like wits end/BRs = he dies in 1 combo), i have even had success against kog with shen, although you're really just disabling him so someone else can get him if you're shen. olaf destroys kogmaw so hard it's not even funny. in theory WW should do pretty well against kogmaw but don't quote me on that
so what happens when you jump in and 4 tanks insta-gib you? ezreal's jump is to get out and stay out of sticky situations, not to jump into one. i can imagine xin has a little bit better success but semi-squishy jumpers aren't gonna do shit against a good team. there are going to be a very few number of instances when kogmaw exposes himself to an ezreal or something.

you know who's good at killing kog? the SINISTER FUCKING BLADE. return of kat inc.


well ezrael isn't the initiator... so just wait for the fight to start, jump to the back on top of kogmaw, and pack his shit in. you're not a bad player this isn't a hard concept. in regards to if kogmaw has better positioning... he's just a better player then. he was going to win anyways. if you can't be crafty enough to beat 4 tanks walling for a ranged carry then you just aren't good at this game...

I can't imagine being ezreal and being able to use arcane shift to get INTO the opponents team and auto attack kogmaw. That's the dumbest thing ever. Same thing with kass, you won't blink into the other team and silence/snare kogmaw. I do agree though that akali is a great counter vs kogmaw.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 02 2010 04:52 GMT
#15840
I've had some success with kogmaw in solo que lately and against solo que teams he just wrecks, little organization... haven't played him too much cause he's usually banned now.

Also, akali is scary, I find olaf too be pretty scary as well... not too many chars can get back to you if you play it safe even with mediocre tanks
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