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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 01 2010 21:25 GMT
#15801
he would sit at fountain and kill everything behind turtling heroes. decidedly not fun.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 01 2010 21:35 GMT
#15802
On September 02 2010 06:24 spinesheath wrote:
What would you guys think about a champion that has an ulti that channels through all of his current manapool (not max mana), about 100-200 mana per second, and then deals the amount of mana he had in magic (true?) damage. Range is global, target is marked from the beginning of the channeling. 50%/75%/100% modifier maybe. Can target turrets, has a small splash range. Huge cooldown.

Imagine some sort of huge ass laser coming straight from above.
I'd find that pretty cool, though it would encourage tanking/defending while whittling down the enemy towrrs.


I'm fairly sure mana is the easiest stat in the game to get, it would be an absolute joke of an ability, guaranteed kill on every cooldown from perfect safety.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
September 01 2010 21:42 GMT
#15803
So anyone able to drop some Blitzcrank wisdom on top of me?

AD? AP? Typically I been leaning towards AP builds with him; but how is AD?

Mostly just trying to get a better build out of him.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 01 2010 21:54 GMT
#15804
On September 02 2010 06:42 Brambled wrote:
So anyone able to drop some Blitzcrank wisdom on top of me?

AD? AP? Typically I been leaning towards AP builds with him; but how is AD?

Mostly just trying to get a better build out of him.


the best build for blitz is just
1) doran's shield
2) land hooks

really it doesn't matter what you build on him. cooldown reduction (frozen heart) is nice. ad is okay. ap is okay. your only goal as blitz is to not feed, and land hooks. that's all you need to play blitz
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 22:13:09
September 01 2010 22:11 GMT
#15805
On September 02 2010 06:25 Mogwai wrote:
he would sit at fountain and kill everything behind turtling heroes. decidedly not fun.


On September 02 2010 06:35 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:24 spinesheath wrote:
What would you guys think about a champion that has an ulti that channels through all of his current manapool (not max mana), about 100-200 mana per second, and then deals the amount of mana he had in magic (true?) damage. Range is global, target is marked from the beginning of the channeling. 50%/75%/100% modifier maybe. Can target turrets, has a small splash range. Huge cooldown.

Imagine some sort of huge ass laser coming straight from above.
I'd find that pretty cool, though it would encourage tanking/defending while whittling down the enemy towrrs.


I'm fairly sure mana is the easiest stat in the game to get, it would be an absolute joke of an ability, guaranteed kill on every cooldown from perfect safety.


Don't be so quick! By huge cooldown I mean something like 5 minutes or more. The channeling would take 5-10 seconds for 1000 damage and you see where he will hit, so champion kills are pretty much impossible with it. It would pretty much only make sense on turrets, dragon, baron, possibly to control some area but unlikely.
If he only sits at fountain, all the fights will be 4v5, not exactly favorable.

I just like the idea of firing a huge laser on a tower :p The screen could shake a bit upon impact
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 22:27:44
September 01 2010 22:26 GMT
#15806
Obv. not taking initial balance into account, I don't think we need any more channeling ults. It's a really cool concept, though.

Uhh last time we had a hero that destroyed turrets from out of their range, nobody liked it.
In fact, never has there been a hero who could outrange turrets AND be popular.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 01 2010 22:27 GMT
#15807
the issue is that it could only be too good or completely useless. There's no middle ground with an ability like that. And just think how much playing against old heimer pissed people off... imagine if instead of slowly chipping away from just outside of range they were instead just obliterating the tower from across the map.
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Danzepol
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States211 Posts
September 01 2010 22:40 GMT
#15808
a character like that would just be an automatic lane down if the game went on for over 45 minutes or so.
in a fox with a box
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 01 2010 22:51 GMT
#15809
On September 02 2010 07:11 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:25 Mogwai wrote:
he would sit at fountain and kill everything behind turtling heroes. decidedly not fun.


Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:35 red_ wrote:
On September 02 2010 06:24 spinesheath wrote:
What would you guys think about a champion that has an ulti that channels through all of his current manapool (not max mana), about 100-200 mana per second, and then deals the amount of mana he had in magic (true?) damage. Range is global, target is marked from the beginning of the channeling. 50%/75%/100% modifier maybe. Can target turrets, has a small splash range. Huge cooldown.

Imagine some sort of huge ass laser coming straight from above.
I'd find that pretty cool, though it would encourage tanking/defending while whittling down the enemy towrrs.


I'm fairly sure mana is the easiest stat in the game to get, it would be an absolute joke of an ability, guaranteed kill on every cooldown from perfect safety.


Don't be so quick! By huge cooldown I mean something like 5 minutes or more. The channeling would take 5-10 seconds for 1000 damage and you see where he will hit, so champion kills are pretty much impossible with it. It would pretty much only make sense on turrets, dragon, baron, possibly to control some area but unlikely.
If he only sits at fountain, all the fights will be 4v5, not exactly favorable.

I just like the idea of firing a huge laser on a tower :p The screen could shake a bit upon impact


Smash already covered it but, any ability that is so good it requires a 5 minute cooldown, or some other crazy stipulation(10 second channel) doesn't belong in the game. Either a) the stipulations put on it simply aren't restrictive enough and it's obscenely OP, or b) it blows ass because it's a twice a game gimmick.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 01 2010 23:03 GMT
#15810
is sword of the occult anywhere near as good as soulstealer? I'm finding I'm having a hard time working into builds whereas you can pretty much put soulstealer anywhere after you've gotten a major item.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
September 01 2010 23:28 GMT
#15811
On September 02 2010 07:27 Mogwai wrote:
the issue is that it could only be too good or completely useless.

Bingo. This is a major issue with amateur game design: "wouldn't it be awesome if...!" is not game design. See also: invisibility.
There's no middle ground with an ability like that. And just think how much playing against old heimer pissed people off... imagine if instead of slowly chipping away from just outside of range they were instead just obliterating the tower from across the map.

sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
September 01 2010 23:35 GMT
#15812
On September 02 2010 05:57 STS17 wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2692544#post2692544

Should sum up most of the communities desires into one champion.

how did people take you seriously. wow
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 02 2010 00:07 GMT
#15813
just counterpick karthus u noobs
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 02 2010 00:08 GMT
#15814
On September 02 2010 08:35 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 05:57 STS17 wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2692544#post2692544

Should sum up most of the communities desires into one champion.

how did people take you seriously. wow


you take him seriously?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 02 2010 00:11 GMT
#15815
Long channels for ults is bad I agree, Take out Karths channel time >

Bah haven't played in like 3 weeks, I miss my lich singing and people dying.
Never Knows Best.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 02 2010 00:15 GMT
#15816
ok not gonna lie that is pretty sexy
need to walljump and have ward? use item hotkeys to put ward down and shunpo to it (2E)
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 02 2010 00:23 GMT
#15817
On September 02 2010 08:28 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 07:27 Mogwai wrote:
the issue is that it could only be too good or completely useless.

Bingo. This is a major issue with amateur game design: "wouldn't it be awesome if...!" is not game design. See also: invisibility.
Show nested quote +
There's no middle ground with an ability like that. And just think how much playing against old heimer pissed people off... imagine if instead of slowly chipping away from just outside of range they were instead just obliterating the tower from across the map.



it's a major issue with idiot game design... there are plenty of amateurs that wouldn't fall into a trap that basic
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 00:36:58
September 02 2010 00:35 GMT
#15818
Every time I play teemo, i get a bunch of retards on my team.

I got called a noob for not harassing against a Morde/Panth lane. Second I come within range to blind one of em im stunned and insta gibbed lol.

Dunno how this champ is viable, too damn squishy. Panths spear was doing 20% of my health..

Oh and the idiot telling me off was our 'jungle' olaf who died 3 times in like 5m. Before the game seemed to start.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 02 2010 00:40 GMT
#15819
On September 02 2010 08:35 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 05:57 STS17 wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2692544#post2692544

Should sum up most of the communities desires into one champion.

how did people take you seriously. wow


I think people took me seriously there because nobody here does, which is why I posted it here (so people could remark at how...simple...the people there are.

As far as the giant space laser of death...

5 minute cooldown to kill a tower you say?

40% CDR means once I hit level six the other team has 15 minutes to win the game before I target their nexus even if my team never downs a single tower (first use hits outer, then inner, then inhibitor, then the two nexus towers, then nexus)

Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
wozjflwnl
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada344 Posts
September 02 2010 00:50 GMT
#15820
when i normally play i seem to feel time is going extremely slow like how sometimes when im 30 minutes into the game and only lvl 11 and 0 towers killed 5-8 team kills.
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