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EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
August 15 2010 18:15 GMT
#12261
On August 16 2010 03:09 Danzepol wrote:
has riot said anything about the achievements tab under the summoner profile?

No they haven't.
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 15 2010 18:17 GMT
#12262
I've been loving hybrid Teemo with the new Hextech, it's just got everything Teemo needs to produce kills with less of a need for frozen mallet. Teemo in general though is a bit underrated, still love mushroom mayhem though.
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
August 15 2010 18:36 GMT
#12263
Teemo is not at all underrated.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 15 2010 18:48 GMT
#12264
On August 16 2010 03:12 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
With Akali I've been getting sorc shoes into rageblade. Rylais is kinda boring and when I started getting rage first I just become so fucking dangerous. If I'm on a mad killing spree I'll Mejais after it, if not then into hexbladegunthing into Rylais

I get sorc or merc shoes, then rush GRB and Hextech Gunblade into Rylais into Zhonya's Never had a game last longer than that. :/
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
August 15 2010 18:57 GMT
#12265
So, what is a general Golem priority order? Just about every guide I read says "take Golem whenever it's up". I've been mainly playing Amumu and I feel like I can use Golem more than most, but I'm not about to steal it from someone already attacking it and promote team disharmony...
Zero fighting.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 15 2010 19:06 GMT
#12266
On August 16 2010 03:57 Jaksiel wrote:
So, what is a general Golem priority order? Just about every guide I read says "take Golem whenever it's up". I've been mainly playing Amumu and I feel like I can use Golem more than most, but I'm not about to steal it from someone already attacking it and promote team disharmony...

A lot of time it's based on your role more than your champion. Junglers usually need it to do their thing. Later on in the game, if your carry wants it, he should probably get it.

Other than that, I think Heimer probably benefits the most. Not gonna go through every champ and make a list though
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 15 2010 19:09 GMT
#12267
Especially early-mid game Kassadin benefits hugely from it... having it and not having it can decide teamfights :[
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 15 2010 19:13 GMT
#12268
Give it to any champ who's going to benefit a lot from mana regen and cooldown reduction.

Morg, Anivia, etc.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2010 19:24 GMT
#12269
Early game, jungler should get the buffs. It helps his jungling ability immensely. But late game (when you are roaming as 5 and team fighting) golem goes to your primary caster carry. That's typically an Annie, Kassadin, Anivia, Morg, Heimer, even Ryze.

Amumu doesn't really need Golem late game. You'll typically just need to Bandage to initiate and cooldown will be up near the end of the battle where you need to use it again to chase. Tantrum and Cry both are low CD and mana costs. Only "justifiable" reason for Amumu to get Golem late game is to reset his ulti faster. But then again, you're trading one team fight spell for a possible 3-4 burst spells from your caster carry.
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 19:26:41
August 15 2010 19:26 GMT
#12270
Thanks for the responses guys. I was thinking more along the mana regen lines for Amumu than the CD, but I suppose that will be less of a problem at level 30 with full tier 3 runes for MP5.
Zero fighting.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 15 2010 19:26 GMT
#12271
On August 16 2010 04:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
Early game, jungler should get the buffs. It helps his jungling ability immensely. But late game (when you are roaming as 5 and team fighting) golem goes to your primary caster carry. That's typically an Annie, Kassadin, Anivia, Morg, Heimer, even Ryze.

You forgot Veigar
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2010 19:30 GMT
#12272
If Veigar is your main caster carry, I'd call that a team comp fail.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 15 2010 19:32 GMT
#12273
Priorities on blue are really a tough matter, Heim>everyone is a given but I can already see everyone jumping on saying "my champ should get it first bc blah blah blah..."

Golem will decide teamfights, it gives 1 more force pulse to kass which is only needed if you have no mass slow and he farmed/got fed by going mid. Sion has 1 more stun/nuke if he went AP, Amumu will be able to ult A LOT faster the 2nd time, same for morgana and fiddle.

If Cho died he should get maximum priority over anyone that isn't heimer. I don't care who you are, cho with less than 4 stacks and GA on CD is dead meat. Many players (especially those who can't solo golem) will start yelling for you to leave it to them just because they want the free mana, and that's the worst use they can make from it.

Stealing golem from a non-optimal jungler (mumu, other tanks) especially around lv 7 means that he won't be able to farm as effectively or at all, and could possibly prevent him from ganking too.

I can't think of any character outside of fast snowballing caster mids who can make a better use than a jungler who needs it to farm.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 15 2010 19:35 GMT
#12274
On August 16 2010 04:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
If Veigar is your main caster carry, I'd call that a team comp fail.

Yes, by the opposing team.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 19:38:00
August 15 2010 19:37 GMT
#12275
If veigar gets picked, and he isn't just being stupid, it means the enemy team fucked up and chose too many AP heroes.

Of course these days, veigar can get away with being tanky and just spam his ridiculous stun. Still not great of a champ but whateverrrrrr
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 15 2010 19:50 GMT
#12276
On August 16 2010 04:26 Jaksiel wrote:
Thanks for the responses guys. I was thinking more along the mana regen lines for Amumu than the CD, but I suppose that will be less of a problem at level 30 with full tier 3 runes for MP5.


bring mana pots and be reasonable with your mana usage. i always die alittle inside when i see ashes getting chalice. i mean yes you run out of mana alot if you just spam. but if you are smart with it and bring mana pots for right after a fight, youre fine. 120 gold early in the game that can be sold back in case you dont find a situation you need it in is way better than 980 for some stupid mp5 item. that honestly is not that good at solving mana issues to begin with.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 15 2010 19:54 GMT
#12277
On August 16 2010 04:50 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 04:26 Jaksiel wrote:
Thanks for the responses guys. I was thinking more along the mana regen lines for Amumu than the CD, but I suppose that will be less of a problem at level 30 with full tier 3 runes for MP5.


bring mana pots and be reasonable with your mana usage. i always die alittle inside when i see ashes getting chalice. i mean yes you run out of mana alot if you just spam. but if you are smart with it and bring mana pots for right after a fight, youre fine. 120 gold early in the game that can be sold back in case you dont find a situation you need it in is way better than 980 for some stupid mp5 item. that honestly is not that good at solving mana issues to begin with.

Chalice is 890 and cost-effective at what it does
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 19:59:13
August 15 2010 19:56 GMT
#12278
I think the top blue users or the most obvious ones are the ones with endless abilities, think heimer, anivia, kassadin..

More importantly if there is not one on the team and Im mummy I usually hog it, I dont get CDR from anywhere else, and my ult is just way too powerful for team fights :D. And despair eats mana pretty bad, Im oom a ton even at lvl 17-18 during the end of a long push or fight just cause I turn on despair and eat their team.. do so much damage :D.

Red is a different matter, I give it to the ranged carry religiously after the first/second with priority especially on those like kayle and ez where red = free kills, also great on chars like olaf and stuff where they need the person to stick to them after the first/second red I usually ask if the nearest person wants it..


other than that, I find it much more annoying when mid steals my wraiths or even more importantly my wraith exp then losing an early red to mid who will probably get a kill with it..

I had an embarassing death to lizard the other day when I wasnt paying attention and mid stole some wraith exp, I was on phone, and proceeded to die at lizard without being lvl 3 -_-
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 15 2010 19:58 GMT
#12279
On August 16 2010 04:54 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 04:50 Orpheos wrote:
On August 16 2010 04:26 Jaksiel wrote:
Thanks for the responses guys. I was thinking more along the mana regen lines for Amumu than the CD, but I suppose that will be less of a problem at level 30 with full tier 3 runes for MP5.


bring mana pots and be reasonable with your mana usage. i always die alittle inside when i see ashes getting chalice. i mean yes you run out of mana alot if you just spam. but if you are smart with it and bring mana pots for right after a fight, youre fine. 120 gold early in the game that can be sold back in case you dont find a situation you need it in is way better than 980 for some stupid mp5 item. that honestly is not that good at solving mana issues to begin with.

Chalice is 890 and cost-effective at what it does

So you're saying getting Chalice on Ashe is good?
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AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
August 15 2010 19:58 GMT
#12280
I don't really post often in this thread, but after the patch (the one where nunu's consume got a buff) I decided to get nunu since I didn't have a jungler. I've never jungled before though, and I have no idea what my pattern should be or what items I should get first.

Can anyome please help? ):

I tried looking for some guides on leaguecraft and mobafire, but I couldn't find any good jungling guides... Also, are junglers rune dependent? I don't have very good runes :/
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