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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
August 10 2010 21:19 GMT
#11421
just both dive on ryze in a 2v2 lane hes going to DIE >_>
skyhighftw on iccup
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:21:55
August 10 2010 21:19 GMT
#11422
Well in both those games I actually had pretty decent CS, and even got one early kill because a full hp Twitch thought that he could get a lasthit from the brush when he's lvl 2 and I'm 3.

It's just that, I prefer being near their tower instead of mine and diving repeatedly and causing them to fear me instead of being passive like meh. It's not good for the mental game I think. Or whatever.

On August 11 2010 06:19 FlameSworD wrote:
just both dive on ryze in a 2v2 lane hes going to DIE >_>

Oh and if you try to 2v2 Ryze and whoever without minions around you're the ones dying.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 10 2010 21:21 GMT
#11423
so in your games in every teamfight the other team is dragoning 0o?
Brees on in
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
August 10 2010 21:24 GMT
#11424
I just said this in liquidparty, but it's official. Nunu now outlclasses Warwick in every way. He can now jungle better, he can solo dragon at level 4, and has FAR more utility late game whether you go AP or Tank.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 21:25 GMT
#11425
On August 11 2010 06:24 Fruscainte wrote:
I just said this in liquidparty, but it's official. Nunu now outlclasses Warwick in every way. He can now jungle better, he can solo dragon at level 4, and has FAR more utility late game whether you go AP or Tank.

In every way except 1v1 and DPS and ganking.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:31:34
August 10 2010 21:29 GMT
#11426
On August 11 2010 06:25 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:24 Fruscainte wrote:
I just said this in liquidparty, but it's official. Nunu now outlclasses Warwick in every way. He can now jungle better, he can solo dragon at level 4, and has FAR more utility late game whether you go AP or Tank.

In every way except 1v1 and DPS and ganking.


If you build AP, his Ice Blast will burn 30% HP on anyone not a tank at max rank. Add that in with his 65% attack speed buff he can give to allies along with 15% movement speed, and an ult that does around 1500 damage with all his AP at max rank, and a consume that can keep him in a fight endlessly. (Heals 50% of his HP at max rank with AP)

Sure, WW can gank a bit better at level 6 with his stun ult, but I prefer slowing ice blast, then an ult that burns 50% of their HP as well. I'd take more utility over a nuance of better ability to gank.

And the fact that he can now jungle as fast, if not faster than WW and I think Nunu is pretty top tier now.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 21:44 GMT
#11427
1. bullshit 2. WW has one too 3. Your ulti never goes off no matter how hard you try 4. WW is probably the best 1v1 in the game and will kill you every time he meets you
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:51:29
August 10 2010 21:47 GMT
#11428
I was just playing with friends in practice games when I was testing it out and I was burning squishies and other non-tanks for 25-30% of their HP instantly. And I know WW has one too, I was saying how they're matched up with their W's. And I'm not denying WW is a great 1v1'er, I'll go as far to say he's better than Nunu at 1v1. But Nunu has far more utility in team fights in mid and late game and can now jungle just as fast as WW and take down dragon faster. So in my opinion, he's better.

They are equal junglers, they have equal AS and movement speed buff W's, they both can gank, and ones great at 1v1 and one is a great team fighter. I prefer the one who is a great team fighter than one is great at ganking.

I'll admit, I was wrong in saying that Warwick is now useless. But nunu is now a very top tier jungler.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 21:49 GMT
#11429
You gotta see more terrible-feeder-ww-then-gets-razors-and-quadkills-out-of-nowhere WWs =P

Nunu is still terrible but at least he can jungle now.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:53:08
August 10 2010 21:52 GMT
#11430
On August 11 2010 06:49 Shikyo wrote:
You gotta see more terrible-feeder-ww-then-gets-razors-and-quadkills-out-of-nowhere WWs =P

Nunu is still terrible but at least he can jungle now.


You obviously haven't seen my Nunu

But yeah, look at my edit. WW isn't useless, that was an exaggeration. But Nunu is pretty top tier now with that buff.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:54:03
August 10 2010 21:52 GMT
#11431
Seen only Nicosharp's, hope you are better

Edit: no nunu is still terrible T_T
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:57:00
August 10 2010 21:54 GMT
#11432
On August 11 2010 06:52 Shikyo wrote:
Seen only Nicosharp's, hope you are better


I play Nunu like a support not a carry. I use his AS + Movement speed and his E to slow to get my teammates a shitton of kills.

EDIT: Nawww :3

He never needs to leave fights with his Q and when you get a critical mass of AP his E and R are just flat out amazing. Especially his E. I was playing my WW friend earlier, he ganked me while I was fighting wolf camp late game at like level 17, he gets me to like 55% HP, I consume a wolf, get all my HP back, Ice Blast and there goes almost all of his HP, Exaust, ult, he's dead. No one escapes with a good nunu around.

I'll admit, he's not OP or a fed shaco good, but he's pretty fucking good now
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 21:59:06
August 10 2010 21:57 GMT
#11433
His R is really good yes. As a 0.5 second AoE slow.

EDIT: Or a good WW would have waited for your ulti then interrupted it with ulti then raped you
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 22:00:32
August 10 2010 21:59 GMT
#11434
On August 11 2010 06:57 Shikyo wrote:
His R is really good yes. As a 0.5 second AoE slow.

EDIT: Or a good WW would have waited for your ulti then interrupted it with ulti then raped you


And 1500 damage burst. Even if it's stopped halfway through, it still does 800-900 damage.

EDIT: I know a good WW should have beaten me, the point I was making though is that Nunu has retarded survivability and is just a completely rape AP Support. I'm not exaggerating with 50% of his HP from his Q
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 22:03:04
August 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#11435
I just started LoL 3 months ago but since i was in China the entire vacation I couldnt play a lot xD
I currently lvl 13
IGN: RyZlshaDoWl
Heroes: (3)
Main (best with) : Twisted Fate
Katarina
Annie
usually I play with a lot of lvl 30 (coz most of my friends are lvl 30) and i got pretty good at this game with every hero I have so far. I try out builds, hybrid them, create new builds for almost every hero I have
who ever wanna play with me just add me ^^
How do u doto?
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 22:02:44
August 10 2010 22:01 GMT
#11436

How do u doto?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 22:02 GMT
#11437
And the point I'm making is that all that is the same as it used to be and none of those aspects got buffed. In fact the single consume to heal is actually weaker now than before, it's only better early on. Otherwise Nunu is extremely lackluster.

And you'd be extremely lucky if your ulti was stopped halfway through. And I could have sworn that his ulti doesn't deal damage if it's interrupted, only if he manually cancels it. Maybe I'm wrong here though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
August 10 2010 22:02 GMT
#11438
Wth i wanted to edit my post and i clicked on quote......
FAIIILL ><
How do u doto?
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
August 10 2010 22:05 GMT
#11439
Nunu's Ult is good in gang fight. just like FS's or Kats ult, it does high dmg to EVERYTHING (maybe not kat's) in a small area.
Nunu is good in 5v5s but I dun see him doing 1v1
How do u doto?
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
August 10 2010 22:05 GMT
#11440
His ulti does damage when interrupted, also if you add a morgana for Blackshield he will likely eat most of the enemies teams interrupts in solo qeue. I wouldn't say hes top tier now just because he can jungle again (his laning has always been great imho that snowball slows like crazy considering its cooldown and duration) but he certainly is better than the amount of people playing him would make it seem.
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