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Could not for the life of me get a killing blow...
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
Could not for the life of me get a killing blow... | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On July 28 2010 09:33 STS17 wrote: Could not for the life of me get a killing blow... Im suprised you didn't go straight AD ez... everyone else on your team was doing magic damage .. luckily they didn't buy negatron cloaks :D | ||
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
Lets make an op champion again to sell some skins to make money but yet make his abilities so fucking OP. That pool of blood where he goes invul... ohh and heals himself and slows and deals damage wtf where they thinking | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On July 28 2010 09:32 locodoco wrote: i shouldn't try to sell my account on teamliquid User was warned for this post lol gl with your sc2 endeavors | ||
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Lubey
United States7 Posts
On July 28 2010 11:05 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote: Riot... full of retards. Lets make an op champion again to sell some skins to make money but yet make his abilities so fucking OP. That pool of blood where he goes invul... ohh and heals himself and slows and deals damage wtf where they thinking Uh so from that description he's a Kayle minus the insane damage/tower killing potential? Idk, I've only played with/against him 8x or so today and thus far I'm rather unimpressed. Sure he's annoying to kill but it's not like he can 5v1 or even 2v1 (though he is new) from what I've seen. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On July 28 2010 09:04 PanN wrote: No, don't. Don't even try that. Bring up data and numbers before such an accusation. Have you played with him? He's so retardedly OP lol. I mean in a teamfight he just does like 50% of everyone's HP while going untargetable and then coming up to nuke again right after. How can you lose a straight up teamfight in ranked if he's on your side? | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On July 28 2010 03:28 Mogwai wrote: I just max riccochet quickly and auto-attack farm, which accidentally kills turrets, and then I get up to a bf sword which also kills them quickly. *shrugs* I think a lot of people like boomerang blade for killing towers, but I think you lose that mana fight really quickly. spell shield is also boss because of his pretty slow/predictable nukes. I saw you mention that you owned Heimer with Sivir earlier and I was like "WTF? That's one of the top five hardest matchups for Sivir. Maybe I'm dumb?" Part of it was that I played Sivir when Heimer had "always hit champs"-missiles, which were just unfair. Another part, however, is turret placement. When playing Heimer against Sivir, turrets go on the OUTSIDE of the lane. No bounce range from creeps. I don't know why I've seen this more than once at my ELO, which is way lower than yours, and you haven't seen it, but it basically makes the lane a lost cause for Sivir in my experience. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
I didn't really experience his ult, since the entire game was a series of 1-3 person fights with our team ONCE bunching up into a group of four. His W is good but balanced. It's probably his best scaling feature, but the cooldown remains quite high and it doesn't heal much, especially considering that it costs him 20% of his current hp. I think he's about at the balance level of XinZhao. He'll be roflstomping pubs in the hands of decent players, and being moderately useful in higher elo. E didn't impress me at all. It's a boring, not super powerful nuke; the passive effect is generally ignorable. Onnnn the other hand I haven't seen him in a real teamfight so as ZERG_RUSSIAN said he might dominate teamfights. I'm never going to play a real game for a week. Everyone wants to be a vampire. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Passive: probably UP for the hp to AP conversion. If you build him super tanky you wont do a ton of damage. Otherwise this is what makes him not completely useless. Q: Decent damage, long cooldown early, very short cooldown late. I think this is a very balanced spell, it doesnt heal for very much but it deals a decent amount of damage. It's not an amazing harassment tool because most ranged champions can outrange it and most melee champions can just shrug it off. Not nearly as effective in a 1v1 scenerio as warwick's Q W: Absolutely necessary if you don't build him very tanky. If you do its still probably going to be very key for a lot of fights. To clear up some misconception: it does not make you not take any damage, if there is a dot (mushroom, ignite, malefic visions etc) you can and will still die. It takes a portion of your max hp to basically Zhonya's ring yourself and you can still move. You cannot cast any spells while assuming the form of a pool of blood. The cooldown is fairly long such that you probably can't do it more than once a fight. I really like using it to start a fight by walking into brush as blood. It can definitely be used to bait a ton of spells from newer players. E: His farming skill. I highly recommend keeping up a 4 stack of the buff whenever possible as it increases the damage significantly. Note that it will display the graphic and deal damage to stealthed units. This includes wards, mushrooms, stealthed champions. It wont actually deal damage to wards and shrooms as theyre immune to spells but you will know they are there. R: Makes the champion viable. It's a debuff that increases damage taken by a large amount, then explodes for a barely noticable amount of damage (i think its 200/300/400 base + like 0.5 or 0.6 ap ratio). I would probably say this is what is going to make him very powerful with a team that has morgana amumu or fiddle. Overall I think he's strong because of his farming ability not because of any overly powerful spell. He is not very strong in a 1v1 situation but shines in larger battles where E and R can do a ton of damage. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On July 28 2010 12:00 Phrost wrote: Okay here's Vladimir in a nutshell: Passive: probably UP for the hp to AP conversion. If you build him super tanky you wont do a ton of damage. Otherwise this is what makes him not completely useless. Q: Decent damage, long cooldown early, very short cooldown late. I think this is a very balanced spell, it doesnt heal for very much but it deals a decent amount of damage. It's not an amazing harassment tool because most ranged champions can outrange it and most melee champions can just shrug it off. Not nearly as effective in a 1v1 scenerio as warwick's Q W: Absolutely necessary if you don't build him very tanky. If you do its still probably going to be very key for a lot of fights. To clear up some misconception: it does not make you not take any damage, if there is a dot (mushroom, ignite, malefic visions etc) you can and will still die. It takes a portion of your max hp to basically Zhonya's ring yourself and you can still move. You cannot cast any spells while assuming the form of a pool of blood. The cooldown is fairly long such that you probably can't do it more than once a fight. I really like using it to start a fight by walking into brush as blood. It can definitely be used to bait a ton of spells from newer players. E: His farming skill. I highly recommend keeping up a 4 stack of the buff whenever possible as it increases the damage significantly. Note that it will display the graphic and deal damage to stealthed units. This includes wards, mushrooms, stealthed champions. It wont actually deal damage to wards and shrooms as theyre immune to spells but you will know they are there. R: Makes the champion viable. It's a debuff that increases damage taken by a large amount, then explodes for a barely noticable amount of damage (i think its 200/300/400 base + like 0.5 or 0.6 ap ratio). I would probably say this is what is going to make him very powerful with a team that has morgana amumu or fiddle. Overall I think he's strong because of his farming ability not because of any overly powerful spell. He is not very strong in a 1v1 situation but shines in larger battles where E and R can do a ton of damage. On July 27 2010 21:50 oberon wrote: Some notes on Vlad's pool of blood: 1) Poor Taric/Sion 2) Taking him mid vs. Kat would be hilarious. Pool seems like an annoying answer to shunpo, and a hard counter to Kat's ult. 3) What does this do with alpha strike? Can you get out of being targeted? 4) Phreak demonstrated some diving using this skill, but I expect to see a whole lot of this, especially since he's so bursty. Run up while minions are at tower, burst on enemy, pool out taking no damage. 5) It looks big. Is it big enough to hit both melee and caster creeps? Does it hit hard enough for one cast to kill a wave? If so, talk about AFK-farming... even better than Sion's shield. I think it is this skill, and this skill only, that makes him seem so strong. In other news: is he a viable off-tank? He has no CC, but he can pool in and burst squishies, and if he grabs something like Sorc shoes, Rylai's, Sunfire, Abyssal Scepter and Haunting Guise he'll have a nice combo of survivability and AP/pen (though this is a pretty cash-heavy example). So, is he as good against Taric, Sion, and Kat as I thought? Can he slip out of alpha strike? Is he really good at diving? Can W farm like Morgana's W? Can he off-tank? | ||
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
E farms better than pool in almost every situation costs less hp. I think he is a pretty good offtank because he can take a decent amount of damage and does a ton of damage so he will be able to make people attack him | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On July 28 2010 12:05 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote: Uhhh just played a game against Vlad .... 600 AP and over 6k Health.... pretty fucking op and he acts like a tank.... learn to build him / play him and then u'll see If you don't let him stack his leviathan or ss, he'll never be that amazing at nuking. His role in team fights will always be amazing due to his ult and w though. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
On July 28 2010 12:13 rwrzr wrote: lol can anyone help me. I got DC'd right as the other team surrendered. It kicks me out to the main screen and says "game you tried join doesn't exist." So I exit out completely and try to relog and now i'm stuck at the login screen "Loading..." with the cool clock thing replacing my cursor :S Yeah man everyone is getting this loading screen. Riot fails again! | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
edit: altho, all in all im kinda tired of these passives that say 'getting this stat gives you more of this stat', it just kinda seems like he had such a great concept, then were just like hurr durr, we done dis befo an 'i work otay.... i would like to see more interesting passives (i.e. kog'maw's is interesting, kinda shitty imo, but still interesting) | ||
IntoTheWow
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