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On July 27 2010 13:05 Southlight wrote:
Shen had good map presence with his ult but he was, and is, a very underwhelming tank. He's vaaaaaaaastly overrated as a tank, because feint sucks, and has sucked except for that one month it was godly. He takes forever to farm, and he has no innate tanking ability. GG.
People that chase 1 person then act all surprised when Shen ports in and kills them are the people that think he's a great tank, and ban him. Or people ban him because they don't like his early-game presence when it comes to saving people and/or map presence, but as soon as teams gather up 5v5 boom, one of the bottom-half tanks.
Except for when feint was like a spammable version of Olaf's ult, he's never been a tank, he's been a nice off-tank, though.
None of the spotlights look great or usable at all, Xin Zhao's one for many of us looked like Phreak beating on bad players, which in the end was all there was to it. For god's sake the reason why Xin's considered ridiculous now is because of his ult, something that hardly shone through the spotlight.
But you're not even really arguing against my main point, which is that the majority of "new release" heroes all kinda suck hard for the most part. It's been a long time since Ezreal, and even longer still since Nidalee, and now finally when Xin Zhao pops out people are like zomg every new hero is OP. What? Really?
AND they bitch about how its all a riot conspiracy to steal their money. is so fucking retarded. everyone just wants to rage against "the man" cause they think its cool and hip to be disillusioned. dont buy shit and be happy people with parent's credit cards are funding your free game.
/rant
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I still don't get why people think Riot gets amazing money from OP champions, why wouldn't people just play 40 games and buy them for IP?
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cause 40 games to many ;o
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No one cared about HSGG -_-
Nidalee was ridiculous because she was impossible to catch, and her heal was the most cost-effective heal in the game (which was a big fat fucking joke). Fixing her pounce in that unelegant way and finally nerfing the mana cost of her heal brought her back down to earth... recently.
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I don't think Vladimir will be over powered. I've played him and his skills have a pretty good base damage but they scale fairly poorly late game. You need to poke people to death and considering all of his abilities are short range you are very vulnerable.
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Cool, Phrost.
It's just bizarre people take so much stock out of the spotlights. Like that one game where HSGG got a pentakill with Xin Zhao, so many people saw that video and went OMG SO IMBA and I thought "how the fuck did he get a full stack of items and get so far ahead that he had fucking Phantom Dancer... and why does that team have 0 disables? LOL"
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Also, man, SC2 is coming out and I don't care at all, like I'll pick it up at some point cuz of pre-order but it's like yawn. A year ago I never thought this would happen -_-;
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Garen buff sounds really great! I love Garen (unlike most people, it seems) and I am looking forward to enjoying this change!
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On July 27 2010 13:24 Southlight wrote:
Cool, Phrost.
It's just bizarre people take so much stock out of the spotlights. Like that one game where HSGG got a pentakill with Xin Zhao, so many people saw that video and went OMG SO IMBA and I thought "how the fuck did he get a full stack of items and get so far ahead that he had fucking Phantom Dancer... and why does that team have 0 disables? LOL"
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Also, man, SC2 is coming out and I don't care at all, like I'll pick it up at some point cuz of pre-order but it's like yawn. A year ago I never thought this would happen -_-;
People also seem to completely ignore the stun tibbers that got dropped on the last 2-3 people for that penta. Also, as ridiculous as his ult is, the 'good' players that I see breaking him down seem to think that an adjustment is more warranted on TTS's damage scaling, or Audacious Charge's range(not the slow aoe like this patch just changed, but the fact that he can charge from Lay Waste range). His charge range is how he gets rolling in the first place, because ranged champions can't harass him without eating an e->q combo(throw R in there when he hits 6).
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Screw the tibbers, how was he able to catch three squishies (props to Janna for rushing howling gale and blowing it BEFORE the charge LOL! and then not even using the ult) with 0 disables, then have Annie drop tibbers on Mundo (no disable) and some other random thing I couldn't make out visually, lol. It was just incompetence.
I can agree with the charge range, actually. For the most part I've just noticed snaring/stunning messes him up mightily, and I rarely run on a team with a lack of those stuff, so he's always seemed very underwhelming to me, with the exception of his ult. So when Riot a while ago was like "yeah his ult's too strong" I was like okay, that makes sense.
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Speaking about stunning and blinds and such messing him up.. Why is Olaf considered really UP even though he's completely immune to every kind of disable? Maybe people just play him wrong, it makes no sense..
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Wow, Garen change is awesome. I didn't see patch notes in the last few pages, but I might just be blind. I'll paste them again anyway.
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League of Legends v1.0.0.97
Vladimir, The Crimson Reaper
* Transfusion: Vladimir drains the lifeforce of his target, dealing magic damage and healing himself for 25% of that amount.
* Sanguine Pool: Vladimir sinks into a pool of blood for 2.5 seconds, becoming untargetable and slowing enemies above him. Vladmir deals magic damage to targets above him and heals himself for 15% of that amount.
* Tides of Blood: Vladimir unleashes a torrent of blood, damaging surrounding enemies. Additionally, multiple Tides of Blood in a short period of time cause them to cost additional health and deal additional damage, and increases his healing and regeneration by 8%.
* (Ultimate) Hemoplague: Vladimir infects the target area with a virulent plague that increases the damage they take for 5 seconds. After 5 seconds, infected enemies take magic damage.
* (Passive) Crimson Pact: Bonus health gives Vladimir bonus ability power, and every bonus ability power gives Vladimir bonus health (does not stack with itself).
Ashe
* Focus (passive) will now display a buff showing how much extra crit chance Ashe has
Blitzcrank
* Fixed a bug with Rocket Grab that allowed instant cast teleport spells to teleport people out of a grab after it had already hit and they were in the process of being pulled.
Ezreal
* Fixed a discrepancy in Essence Flux's level-up tooltip that incorrectly mentioned a heal
Garen
* Garen can now cast all of his spells while using Judgment instead of just Courage.
* Slightly increased the range of Judgment
Heimerdinger
* CH1 Concussion Grenade ability power ratio reduced to .55 from .7
* CH1 Concussion Grenade range reduced to 925 from 1000
* Fixed a bug with H28G Evolutionary Turret in which level 2 and level 3 turrets were dealing full damage to towers.
Katarina
* Bouncing Blades cooldown increased to 10/9.5/9/8.5/8 from 8 at all ranks
* Voracity (Passive) gold gain on kills and assists reduced to 25 from 50
Kayle
* Righteous Fury tooltip adjusted to indicate the buff duration and attack range increase
* Divine Blessing
o Movement speed bonus reduced to a flat 12% from 10/12/14/16/18%
o Mana cost increased to 60/65/70/75/80from 50/55/60/65/70
o Ability power ratio reduced to .5 from .6
Kog'Maw
* Base attack range increased to 500 from 450.
* Caustic Spittle range increased to 625 from 600.
* Bio Arcane Barrage bonus range reduced to 130/160/190/220/250 from 140/180/220/260/300
Mordekaiser
* Fixed a bug with Children of the Grave where it was granting permanent ability power and damage in some circumstances
Shaco
* Deceive cooldown increased to 10 seconds from 8.5
* Hallucinate’s clone will now take 150% increased damage at all ranks instead of 200/165/135%. The tooltip inaccurately stated that Shaco's clone would take 135% increased damage at all ranks.
Shen
* Fixed a bug with Shadow Dash where it would play the Taunt sound when dashing over Null Zone
Twisted Fate
* Fixed a bug where using Pick a Card versus inhibitors would cause the queued up effect to play the sound and particle during each attack
Xin Zhao
* Base attack speed reduced to .658 from .679. This will also lower his attack speed gain from items and abilities by a similar percentage
* Attack speed per level reduced to 2.6% from 2.8%
* Audacious Charge
o Area of effect radius reduced to 225 from 350
o Slow percentage reduced to 20/25/30/35/40% from 40% at all levels
o Slow duration reduced to 1.7 seconds from 2 seconds
o Fixed a bug where Xin Zhao could appear to slow down during his charge if he attempted to move too much
* Crescent Sweep base damage lowered to 125/250/375 from 150/275/400
* Crescent Sweep percentage of current health damage lowered to 20% from 25% at all levels
Zilean
* Chronoshift's buff icon will now display a timer for when the buff will fade.
Items
* Guardian Angel will now display a timer showing how long until the effect is ready again
* Zhonya's Ring no longer removes stealth upon activation
* Wriggles Lantern no longer removes stealth when used
* Executioner's Calling will no longer remove stealth when used
* Fixed a bug with Trinity Force that was causing the proc on spell cast to do less damage than intended.
* Fixed a bug with Randuin's Omen where the activation effect was not unique
* Fixed a bug where Ignite could be cast while in stasis from Zhonya's Ring
Summoner Spells
* Exhaust, Teleport, Flash, Heal, Clarity, Rally, Ignite, and Smite now remove stealth when used
* Cleanse, Fortify, Clairvoyance, Ghost, and Revive can be used without breaking stealth
General
* Added new targeting reticules for skill shots. These can be turned off in the options menu.
* Global turret experience on Summoner's Rift (Summer/Winter) decreased to 60/100/140 from 140/190/240
* Global turret experience on Twisted Treeline decreased to 60/100 from 140/190
* Mouse wheel scrolling on the minimap is now disabled by default
* Fixed a bug where Champions would move through walls when taking certain paths
* Fixed a bug with Death Recap where it was not displaying damage from abilities like Jack in the Box or H28G Evolution Turrets
* Fixed a bug where the Scoreboard was not properly updating enemy items when they came into visibility
* Fixed a bug where destroyed Inhibitors would display a debug string when pinged
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He can't catch up... lol. Literally people just turn on ghost and kite him, and he can't kill shit fast enough before his ult runs out. It's kinda sad, and it's also why when someone brought up the Olaf/Zil combo i was like OMG THAT'S IT! THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE HIM WORK!
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Honestly if they were to raise his movement speed by like 10-15 he'd skyrocket in viability, but then you're looking at borderline OP again. It's a tough line he's treading 
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Map control TF is so so fun. Smite/flash, get wriggles lantern, and just go around farming/stealing buffs/dragon/backdoor the entire game.
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On July 27 2010 13:50 Southlight wrote:He can't catch up... lol. Literally people just turn on ghost and kite him, and he can't kill shit fast enough before his ult runs out. It's kinda sad, and it's also why when someone brought up the Olaf/Zil combo i was like OMG THAT'S IT! THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE HIM WORK! Edit: Honestly if they were to raise his movement speed by like 10-15 he'd skyrocket in viability, but then you're looking at borderline OP again. It's a tough line he's treading
I know I play at shit elos but a few Olafs totally ruined my game when I was tanking by just ramboing into my squishies like Ashe and Annie and forcing them to run away as the rest of the tea focused me and maybe another person who wasn't being bullied by Olaf O_o And that felt like a role Olaf does really well
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your whole team is suppose to realize he's blown his ult and kite his team, then re-engage when it comes off of CD. he's annoying, but avoidable, yet I totally agree with utah that when he's in tandem with zil, it's scary as hell. I remember that being the best game I saw L0CUST play, where he had some zil on his team and he'd basically just run train on our whole team with late game olaf. it was really frustrating that there was nothing we could do.
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On July 27 2010 13:24 Southlight wrote:
Edit:
Also, man, SC2 is coming out and I don't care at all, like I'll pick it up at some point cuz of pre-order but it's like yawn. A year ago I never thought this would happen -_-;
lol, same
also, I'm on a 10 game ranked winning streak, didn't even notice till I checked my profile. up to 1450, just gotta keep running the solo kayle + jungle rammus with turkey and we'll get back into reasonable elos.
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It's not so easy to kite his whole team if you get stunned or snared by something other than the olaf and then your team is seperated and so on. But yeah maybe he needs a tiny buff or maybe people just don't play him properly, he should be good on paper
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They nerfed Kayle's heal, which was rather weak before, and left the Nuke/Ranged attacks alone?
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Still no fucking bug fix for fiddle where his ult get canceled when you use flash after it, thus both being on cooldown and neither effect is used.
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On July 27 2010 14:09 Aurra wrote:
They nerfed Kayle's heal, which was rather weak before, and left the Nuke/Ranged attacks alone?
the heal nerf is annoying, but yea, effectively they didn't really change anything about the part of the game where she's most powerful. the passive and how Ap works vs. towers is the problem with kayle, not this peripheral shit they keep nerfing.
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