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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:25:16
July 26 2010 04:24 GMT
#8421
why does riot have server maintenance at like the most popular time for people to play?

oh, looks like maybe it was an emergency?
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 26 2010 04:24 GMT
#8422
On July 26 2010 13:22 BlackHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k


w first for stun. stun > dmg. if you have a team fight which is more important, 60 dmg or a 1 second stun?

arp/dodge/mreist, mp5 isn't necessary. tf is a really good champion, tier 2-3 imo. you dps carry with stun/global ult is never bad.

health quints
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 26 2010 04:25 GMT
#8423
Don't know but I was really looking forward to playing after a day spent with the family ><
Never Knows Best.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 26 2010 04:25 GMT
#8424
On July 26 2010 13:24 travis wrote:
why does riot have server maintenance at like the most popular time for people to play?


Aye, it does suck. I've been turning it on and off for like 2 hours now lol.

Anyone knows when maintenance is over? I wanna pwn with my Mordekaiser again.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:27:44
July 26 2010 04:27 GMT
#8425
lol, im reading comments on the maintenance thread
my favorite comment, from exsnake

"i will lose my virginity if you don't up the server!!!!"

game was supposed to be up in 5 minutes but now they've tacked on another hour



so surprising
/sarcasm
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
July 26 2010 04:30 GMT
#8426
Just tried DoTa for the first time and got completely raped. I couldn't see jack shit, had no idea what the hotkeys were, ended up giving first blood within 30 seconds, and didn't know what was a minion or a hero coming to kill me. I went 0/8/1 and I didn't even realize i got an assist when I did. Goddamn, I am so happy that LoL doesn't run on the Warcraft 3 engine. If you think seeing stuff during team fights is bad in LOL, it's horrible in Dota. Perhaps gameplay makes up for it, but I wish there was Matchmaking so I could get paired up with other clueless souls.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2010 04:31 GMT
#8427
apparently in the time it took to edit my last post, we posted a bunch and i ended up on last page, so I'll just copy it on this page:

On July 26 2010 13:22 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Oh god.

On impulse i picked Panth cause someone went jungle udyr. Big mistake..

Basically fed as i feebly tried to tickle Ezreal of all squishy champs to death. Udyr had a go at me, then i asked why he hasnt killed dragon yet (14m in).

Couldnt do anything the whole match. Didnt help that i didnt finish changing masteries and get to rune page in time (later found i had 4 masteries selected lol) and i was using pre nerf build.

Dont think i'll ever play him again. Just cant see how hes viable in any way.

he's not

*waits for utah to come in here and explain how panth is now like shen*
On July 26 2010 13:22 BlackHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k

the problem with e first is that it forces you to unnecessarily push creep in order to effectively harass. with w, you can just run up, double tap w, and take w/e you get to ping them for a little. plus, if things ever look dicey at level 1, it's good to have a stun up your sleeve.

for generic phys dps, the rune page is:
armor pen on marks
mana regen/level or dodge or hp/level on seals
mana regen/level or flat CDR or magic resist on glyphs
flat hp or move speed or armor pen on quints

I think the most generically useful is to take the first from all my lists there, but all the mid level players seem to jump on me for advocating full mana regen/level rune sets.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:33:03
July 26 2010 04:31 GMT
#8428
On July 26 2010 13:22 BlackHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k


      For TF, I run magic pen reds, mana per level yellows, cd reduc blues, and hp quints. TF is a really weird hybrid of magic burst and AD carry. I see too many TF's completely ignoring their early game burst damage potential. Even with no AP, his spells are super spammable and deal solid dmg. I guess you can go armor pen reds if you want. To me, HP quints are a must for TF because he is so squishy and it gives him so much more lane presence lvl 1-4. Which brings me to the 1st spell you should take.

      The lvl 1 stun and invaluable for saving yourself, ganking blue buff, and being all around more of a threat. As soon as the creeps meet, pick a gold card or red card and just run towards the enemy champion. It's like having a stacked deck up but you don't have to waste time auto attacking three times to get it up. Also, you can have it up whenever you want it, as opposed to how many last hits you've done. The dmg of lvl 1 stacked deck is easily comparable if not worse to a stun or slow from Pick a Card.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 26 2010 04:32 GMT
#8429
im fucking dying to find out my main elo

holy fuck i'm so excited to find out my actual e-peen
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 26 2010 04:32 GMT
#8430
LoL > DotA, but honestly there's a lot I still miss from my WC3 days. DotA's had years more of dev time than LoL, and IceFrog doesn't have to worry about servers and crap.

Dagon Crows
it's my first day
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 26 2010 04:33 GMT
#8431
On July 26 2010 13:23 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 13:22 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Oh god.

On impulse i picked Panth cause someone went jungle udyr. Big mistake..

Basically fed as i feebly tried to tickle Ezreal of all squishy champs to death. Udyr had a go at me, then i asked why he hasnt killed dragon yet (14m in).

Couldnt do anything the whole match. Didnt help that i didnt finish changing masteries and get to rune page in time (later found i had 4 masteries selected lol) and i was using pre nerf build.

Dont think i'll ever play him again. Just cant see how hes viable in any way.

he's not

*waits for utah to come in here and explain how panth is now like shen*
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 13:22 BlackHat wrote:
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k

the problem with e first is that it forces you to unnecessarily push creep in order to effectively harass. with w, you can just run up, double tap w, and take w/e you get to ping them for a little. plus, if things ever look dicey at level 1, it's good to have a stun up your sleeve.

for generic phys dps, the rune page is:
armor pen on marks
mana regen/level or dodge or hp/level on seals
mana regen/level or flat CDR or magic resist on glyphs
flat hp or move speed or armor pen on quints

I think the most generically useful is to take the first from all my lists there, but all the mid level players seem to jump on me for advocating full mana regen/level rune sets.


i saw Marias destroy 2 games in a row on panth last night, legendary both games
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2010 04:36 GMT
#8432
and I've seen mordekaiser carry a team and be legendary, but the character still sucks.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
July 26 2010 04:37 GMT
#8433
On July 26 2010 13:24 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 13:22 BlackHat wrote:
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k


w first for stun. stun > dmg. if you have a team fight which is more important, 60 dmg or a 1 second stun?

arp/dodge/mreist, mp5 isn't necessary. tf is a really good champion, tier 2-3 imo. you dps carry with stun/global ult is never bad.

health quints


I can definitely see that if I don't go mid, a stun would be really good there, but if I do go mid is the stun still better? I doubt there will be any team action before level 2... but I am pretty low atm, so it might be different when people get better. The stun prolly keeps you safer anyway.

Are health quints the only ones that get used? Obviously not everyone uses them, but the vast majority seem to. Plus they are suggested in every champ spotlight.

One more question, about what elo would people actually start last hitting? I realize my own elo takes a hit from playing with my newb friends constantly(but what else am I gonna do, gotta get em hooked) but no one even tries it and if I do I get pushed to the tower every time. Not that that's a bad thing, good for practicing last hits after tower shots, but I mean come on. If I don't start gating around ganking people, the laning goes on for 20 minutes.
Borsalino for life.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:39:40
July 26 2010 04:38 GMT
#8434
On July 26 2010 13:27 travis wrote:
lol, im reading comments on the maintenance thread
my favorite comment, from exsnake

"i will lose my virginity if you don't up the server!!!!"


Obviously by fucking up his comp. Get it?

Anyway, I've been checking the tier lists in the meantime (one by tymed and the other by elementalz), and it's somewhat suprising to see mordekaiser at the lower tier (3 or 4). It looks like he has a pretty nice early game (recharging shield + farming nonstop with a pendant) and decent mid/late game as a tank (cleanse to clean out the bad shit, w + e to make people stays away from you and exhaust + ulti to chase).

What do you guys think?

Edit: I'm still a lvl 17 pub newb atm, looking to play ranks at lvl 30 :D
Fan of the Jangbanger
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 26 2010 04:42 GMT
#8435
Wowza, a storm knocked out power like 15 minutes after that HSGG game -_-

[image loading]

/brag
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 26 2010 04:44 GMT
#8436
Neo bought Chalice? Huh.


it's my first day
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 26 2010 04:44 GMT
#8437
Oh boy now that is a game to post game scorecard to brag about hahaha.
Retvrn to Forvms
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:48:28
July 26 2010 04:45 GMT
#8438
On July 26 2010 13:38 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 13:27 travis wrote:
lol, im reading comments on the maintenance thread
my favorite comment, from exsnake

"i will lose my virginity if you don't up the server!!!!"


Obviously by fucking up his comp. Get it?

Anyway, I've been checking the tier lists in the meantime (one by tymed and the other by elementalz), and it's somewhat suprising to see mordekaiser at the lower tier (3 or 4). It looks like he has a pretty nice early game (recharging shield + farming nonstop with a pendant) and decent mid/late game as a tank (cleanse to clean out the bad shit, w + e to make people stays away from you and exhaust + ulti to chase).

What do you guys think?

Edit: I'm still a lvl 17 pub newb atm, looking to play ranks at lvl 30 :D



Without damage items, morde has negligible damage and no CC to contribute to lategame fights without the aid of items/summoner spells. There are better tanks with comparable farm (tank Nasus comes to mind).

If you are building damage on him (as his recommended items puzzlingly suggest), know that there are better durable semi-carries (Panth, Xin, Udyr)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 26 2010 04:46 GMT
#8439
On July 26 2010 13:44 Chrispy wrote:
Oh boy now that is a game to post game scorecard to brag about hahaha.


Solo mid Uta vs HSGG's Nid wheeooh.

His team had higher rating than mine, I think, but I recognize my whole team while I only recognize 3/5 of his, so I think it was theoretically stacked in my favor, but it doesn't change the fact that I jacked him up solo mid and stopped him from snowballing worth squat. :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
July 26 2010 04:46 GMT
#8440
Ok so a bunch of ppl replied while I typed that. I see the light on the W first point. Well said all, thanks for setting me straight and the timely replies.

However do you think TF needs mp5? I find I can spam W and not have any problems with mana. Definitely agree that he is super squishy and flat hps would really help early on.
Borsalino for life.
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