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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
July 26 2010 03:46 GMT
#8401
In terms of tanky champs that can carry games, Singed and Garen are your best bets.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2010 03:47 GMT
#8402
as much as it pains me to say this...

garen doesn't get enough credit as a tank who can carry. he's pretty good, probably 2nd best in that role after amumu.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 26 2010 03:54 GMT
#8403
ok

1.) amumu
2.) garen
3.) singed

whichever of those is cheapest i think i will buy
maybe i'll pick garen over amumu though, everyone plays amumu and garen looks pretty fun
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 26 2010 03:57 GMT
#8404
singed isn't that great compared to shen or allistar. singed needs good farm whereas allistar is probably the complete opposite.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2010 04:02 GMT
#8405
neither shen or alistar can really carry though (especially not Ali, LOL), while a fed singed can just sorta run around doing whatever the fuck he wants to.

mordekaiser can sorta carry, but I'll strongly urge you to not play him because he's really terrible when he's not carrying and as a tank carry, I'd still rather always have mumu, garen or singed.

and depending on how loosely you define "tank," Nasus and Xin are both tremendous carries who should be built as tanks because they don't need itemization to hit like a ton of bricks.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:08:48
July 26 2010 04:02 GMT
#8406
On July 26 2010 12:54 travis wrote:
ok

1.) amumu
2.) garen
3.) singed

whichever of those is cheapest i think i will buy
maybe i'll pick garen over amumu though, everyone plays amumu and garen looks pretty fun

Amumu is 1350, garen is 3150. Don't know about Singed.

By the way, don't listen to the people who are saying you should buy Shen.

edit: Oh tanks that carry, Nasus is a really good carry but the problem with him is you'll be farming A LOT which can piss off some teamates.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:04:50
July 26 2010 04:03 GMT
#8407
Amumu is a great tank because he can disable an entire team and let his teammates go hog wild on their asses. Garen/Singed are just beefy champs who can survive forever and piss in your face for long periods of time.

So IMO best tanks are
Amumu
Alistar
Shen

Singed is also 1350.

Ohohohoh... you wanted a tank/carry. Lol nevermind then! Yeah play Garen/Singed/Xin/Nasus.
Retvrn to Forvms
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3845 Posts
July 26 2010 04:05 GMT
#8408
Take AP alistar and you can carry.

By DESTROYING EVERYTHING
: o )
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 26 2010 04:07 GMT
#8409
So true. AP Alistar is baller to the 9's. I had one AP Ali who got meijas and by 20 minutes he was tower diving Heimerdinger and 2 shotting the poor lil guy.
Retvrn to Forvms
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 26 2010 04:08 GMT
#8410
On July 26 2010 13:05 ShloobeR wrote:
Take AP alistar and you can carry.

By DESTROYING EVERYTHING


he's got better ratios then sion

ap allistar is pretty crazy if you think about it
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 26 2010 04:11 GMT
#8411
thought AP alistar was pretty standard, only other build i ever do is tri-force
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2010 04:12 GMT
#8412
the biggest problems are that alistar has monstrous CDs and sucks ass at farming.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 26 2010 04:15 GMT
#8413
That's where Meijas comes into play! Screw farming, kill some scrubs.
Retvrn to Forvms
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
July 26 2010 04:15 GMT
#8414
gragas is the only tank I find enjoyable to play =\
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 26 2010 04:16 GMT
#8415
he can farm somewhat with q -__-
skyhighftw on iccup
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2010 04:17 GMT
#8416
the base damage growth on his shit is also kinda insane... 50/level on both headbutt and pulverize.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 26 2010 04:19 GMT
#8417
Speaking of Gragas he is actually a pretty decent tank/carry imo.
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
July 26 2010 04:22 GMT
#8418
Oh god.

On impulse i picked Panth cause someone went jungle udyr. Big mistake..

Basically fed as i feebly tried to tickle Ezreal of all squishy champs to death. Udyr had a go at me, then i asked why he hasnt killed dragon yet (14m in).

Couldnt do anything the whole match. Didnt help that i didnt finish changing masteries and get to rune page in time (later found i had 4 masteries selected lol) and i was using pre nerf build.

Dont think i'll ever play him again. Just cant see how hes viable in any way.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
July 26 2010 04:22 GMT
#8419
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k
Borsalino for life.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 04:29:34
July 26 2010 04:23 GMT
#8420
On July 26 2010 13:22 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Oh god.

On impulse i picked Panth cause someone went jungle udyr. Big mistake..

Basically fed as i feebly tried to tickle Ezreal of all squishy champs to death. Udyr had a go at me, then i asked why he hasnt killed dragon yet (14m in).

Couldnt do anything the whole match. Didnt help that i didnt finish changing masteries and get to rune page in time (later found i had 4 masteries selected lol) and i was using pre nerf build.

Dont think i'll ever play him again. Just cant see how hes viable in any way.

he's not

*waits for utah to come in here and explain how panth is now like shen*
On July 26 2010 13:22 BlackHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 11:43 BlackHat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have been really enjoying TF lately and I just hit 20, so it's time to buy runes. I know he's not the best champ around, but I like playing him and I don't really plan on playing ranked for awhile (not to mention I can't anyhow). What would you guys suggest? I have been using tier 1 crit chance marks/seals. I am using mp5 glyphs since I already had them for Cho. Also running crit chance quints.
Now it's time to get tier 3 stuff and that takes a lot of ip so I would like some suggestions on what to get. I'm thinking that the page would prolly be usable by any phys dps champ, not just TF. I am running him AS/AD.

Also Mogwai you said E first is bad, could you clarify? I find that if I open with E then I can get some really potent harass off with the 4th attack. It just does a lot of damage (massive if it crits) at that level and usually makes them respect my attacks a bit more, especially once I hit 2 and can stack it with W. I am not saying that E first is better, I am only asking you to expound upon your thought a bit so I can learn a little more about my character.

I certainly appreciate you guys taken the time to help me out. Much obliged.


Just Thought I'd repost my question since this thread moves a million miles a min and I think it got lost in the shuffle. If not, and no one wants to answer, why you gotta hate? j/k

the problem with e first is that it forces you to unnecessarily push creep in order to effectively harass. with w, you can just run up, double tap w, and take w/e you get to ping them for a little. plus, if things ever look dicey at level 1, it's good to have a stun up your sleeve.

for generic phys dps, the rune page is:
armor pen on marks
mana regen/level or dodge or hp/level on seals
mana regen/level or flat CDR or magic resist on glyphs
flat hp or move speed or armor pen on quints

I think the most generically useful is to take the first from all my lists there, but all the mid level players seem to jump on me for advocating full mana regen/level rune sets.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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