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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 14 2010 14:30 GMT
#5961
i hate how 1 dps/tank got fed and carry the whole other team while on my team the caster got fed and becomes useless. despite the fact that we kill more, get more turrets, at mid game it is Sion vs THE WORLD!

so broken so broken :>

btw, the summoner 1 has dc bug is really anoying!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4668 Posts
July 14 2010 14:31 GMT
#5962
Did you scroll down?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 14 2010 14:57 GMT
#5963
On July 14 2010 23:02 jaw wrote:
Pantheon got shit on last patch hard. don't know why you're playing him in ranked game.

first time was to verify how awful the patch was. yes I am good enough with him to have known ahead of time that he got destroyed, but I still felt like having the experience of seeing my champ suck ass first hand.

the next two times were because Utah kept egging me on with his talk of how Maknoon's Panth was still good.

spoiler alert: it's the begining of the season, he's playing against baddies. Pantheon blows ass now and even Maknoon will hit a wall playing against competent competition.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:30:31
July 14 2010 14:59 GMT
#5964
Here's my guide for Carry/tank Morgana:

+ Show Spoiler +


Basics:
Dark Binding's (Q) damage is front loaded now, so its best to use it after Tormented Soil (W) has ticked a few times if possible to get maximum effect.
Tormented Soil at level 3 or 4 can clear an entire wave of ranged minions with ease.
Black Shield is very strong for initiating but I do not recommend getting it for the laning phase.
Soul Shackles does a ton of damage but you need to stay very close to enemies to finish the channel.

Build:
I usually go 9/21/0 masteries (http://www.fieldsofjustice.com/mastery/#/uZawZuPalawynwZy ) because most of morgana's spells you need to be very close to use effectively and getting a lot of tanky masteries allows you to lane much better. For runes I use Mpen marks, Mp5 per level seals, cooldown reduction per level glyphs, and flat hp quintessences. If you wanted to me more carry you can easily swap the cooldown glyphs for AP ones. For summoner spells I always take ghost and then either ignite or cleanse, depending on your team. If your team has a lot of squishy melee champions you will probably not be able to Black Shield yourself often so I would pick up Cleanse, otherwise you can be a lot more agressive with ignite.

Items:
Start with Doran's Ring and a Potion (if you're comfortably 2v2ing you can pick up a mana potion, otherwise if you're 2v1ing I'd grab a health potion)
First trip to base: Catalyst + basic boots.
2nd Trip to base: Rod of Ages and finish Mercury treads if possible.

Eventually you want something like this:
Doran's Ring
Rod of Ages
Mercury Treads
Zhonya's Ring
Rylais Crystalscepter
Will of the Ancients

If the enemy team has a lot of physical dps and your team is not very tanky you can substitute Sunfire capes in for will of the ancients and doran's ring.

Spells:
QWWQWRWEQQRQEEWREE

I start by maximizing my W first but you only need 4 ranks to be able to 1 shot ranged minion waves for most of the game. Q does a lot more damage to champions and scales much better otherwise. If the enemy team has a lot of CC you can level up E faster but at the cost of Q not W.

Strategy:
Farm as much as possible. I usually level W fastest at first to make it a lot easier to kill minion waves. If you position the tormented soil correctly you can hit the ranged minions and the melee ones and regenerate a ton of HP from her passive. Around level 3-4 of Tormented Soil you should be able to kill full health ranged minion waves with all of your passive Mpen and the shacking debuff from the spell itself.

Whenever possible try to move around the creep waves and push your opponents back. Like Ezreal, if your opponents move away from the creep waves to get away from you then they put themselves in an extremely difficult position to dodge.

Don't be afraid to ghost to keep Soul Shackles going. The amount of time it takes for the spell to explode and stun usually nets you enough time to get a Dark binding on them as well which will basically have killed any non-tank champion.

Although Morgana has very high AP ratios, if you don't have enough survival you will die very easily when trying to line up all of your spells. Focus on not dying first and let the spells do their magic.

iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 15:09 GMT
#5965
On July 14 2010 23:31 hasuprotoss wrote:
Did you scroll down?


Yep, typing in his name in the search thing didn't work too.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 15:19:34
July 14 2010 15:14 GMT
#5966
Building rod of ages and THEN zhonya takes way too long. I find rushing zhonya to be more effective as far as morgana is concerned, especially considering her ridiculously high AP ratios and the fact that your team SHOULD win the teamfight if they start focusing on you and you have zhonya's active to use. Just keep a fort pot on hand when you need that extra HP.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 14 2010 15:22 GMT
#5967
i wonder is archangel viable on morgana? i found that i really want more mana to spam soil for farming. so getting a tear early then maybe building something else inbetween then finishing archangel might be a good idea. idk havent had time to test it. before i was just going dorans RoA like everyone else.
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
July 14 2010 15:23 GMT
#5968
On July 14 2010 16:03 -orb- wrote:
[image loading]

First solo queue ranked game

sup


and you got paired up with another TLer.



Imba.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 15:33:36
July 14 2010 15:32 GMT
#5969
Morgana is okay on the mana consumption if you have MP5 blues/yellows, since 1 soil per creep wave is perfectly manageable. You might need some help from items, yeah, if you don't have those.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 14 2010 15:49 GMT
#5970
morg is a baller solomid
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 14 2010 15:49 GMT
#5971
God just had a game with 2 afk from start, and a feeder.
I was jugnling at udyr, but I didnt even bother.
Was over at the 14 min mark.
In the woods, there lurks..
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 15:49 GMT
#5972
On July 15 2010 00:49 HeavOnEarth wrote:
morg is a baller solomid


That's cause you got owned :D
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 15:57:09
July 14 2010 15:56 GMT
#5973
On July 14 2010 23:57 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 23:02 jaw wrote:
Pantheon got shit on last patch hard. don't know why you're playing him in ranked game.

first time was to verify how awful the patch was. yes I am good enough with him to have known ahead of time that he got destroyed, but I still felt like having the experience of seeing my champ suck ass first hand.

the next two times were because Utah kept egging me on with his talk of how Maknoon's Panth was still good.

spoiler alert: it's the begining of the season, he's playing against baddies. Pantheon blows ass now and even Maknoon will hit a wall playing against competent competition.


*shrugs*
He almost beat me and EzPz on Kass/Soraka singlehandedly.

He's running him now as people used to run Shen. Frozen Mallet, Randuin, and a 2-second stun. You may not like him anymore because he's nothing like what he used to be, but I don't think he's utterly useless. He's just not Tier 1/2 anymore.

He also got stealth buffed via Cleanse nerf - almost no one takes it anymore, so he has a much higher probability of killing on assisted ganks now.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 15:57:33
July 14 2010 15:57 GMT
#5974
On July 15 2010 00:49 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 00:49 HeavOnEarth wrote:
morg is a baller solomid


That's cause you got owned :D

=(
spell shield> meh
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Infie
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands59 Posts
July 14 2010 16:02 GMT
#5975
does anybody know how much the new item costs?

New Item: Wriggle's Lantern

* +35 Damage, +30 Armor, +14% Lifesteal
* UNIQUE Passive: 20% chance on attack to deal 500 damage to a minion.
* UNIQUE Active: Places an invisible ward with 1100 range sight and lasts for 3 minutes. 3 minute cooldown.


(read last 5 pages and there is no view all function)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 16:03:56
July 14 2010 16:03 GMT
#5976
On July 15 2010 01:02 Infie wrote:
does anybody know how much the new item costs?


Wriggle's Lantern (2015g):
150g + Long Sword (415g) + Vampiric Scepter (450g) + Madred's Razors (1000g)

Edit:
Via cost efficiency it's actually borderline OP
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=163064
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Infie
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands59 Posts
July 14 2010 16:10 GMT
#5977
tnx for the link and the quick anwser
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 14 2010 16:13 GMT
#5978
On July 15 2010 00:14 Juicyfruit wrote:
Building rod of ages and THEN zhonya takes way too long. I find rushing zhonya to be more effective as far as morgana is concerned, especially considering her ridiculously high AP ratios and the fact that your team SHOULD win the teamfight if they start focusing on you and you have zhonya's active to use. Just keep a fort pot on hand when you need that extra HP.


Zhonya's doesnt give any regen or survival outside of the activate, which you don't want to use while you're trying to channel your ult anyway.

If you farm well with tormented soil you should have no problem grabbing most of the items I listed. The game usually ends for me before I get 6 items either way.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 14 2010 16:14 GMT
#5979
I'm going to play around with the lantern on my solo-pushing champs like master yi. Nice to have some way of watching your back whenever an opportunity presents itself, without paying an extra 90g.

Technically, there's a big advantage in one player buying a lantern on a team, as it does give considerable map control.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 14 2010 16:14 GMT
#5980
On July 15 2010 00:22 Orpheos wrote:
i wonder is archangel viable on morgana? i found that i really want more mana to spam soil for farming. so getting a tear early then maybe building something else inbetween then finishing archangel might be a good idea. idk havent had time to test it. before i was just going dorans RoA like everyone else.


I don't really like archangels because you dont need the regen if you use mp5 runes and get a doran's ring. The extra AP is nice but it doesnt give you any more survival so you can't initiate fights with soul shackles.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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