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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 12 2010 07:10 GMT
#5261
Remember, most of my games without you or Smash are solo queue, and when I queue with Smash I don't have Soraka, but I still play the same way ;p If I can harass (they don't have a healer) I harass to my heart's content.

But the problem is more mid-game fights. Catalyst gives 325 mana, Tear gives 350 and 5 regen, and costs 370-ish less (obviously per hp/mana Cata is more efficient). But it stacks up to like 800 mana, which gives me a huge mana pool, as opposed to if I were to keep going for RoA, which would give me 725 15 minutes after finishing RoA. But I usually can't rush RoA "that fast" - usually in games I end the game before or after I finish Arch. Plus, if i were to keep doing this Mejai rush I'd have a ridiculously slow Cata (too expensive)...
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 07:20:26
July 12 2010 07:18 GMT
#5262
lol you could beg someone pregame to buy a mana manipulator and lane with you :O
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 12 2010 07:33 GMT
#5263
Hahah, during laning that's true, but mid-game fights are almost entirely about mana pool. Kass' base mana mid-game is like 600-700, and considering every riftwalk adds 100 to the subsequent cast within 6 seconds and his two nukes cd in 5/9 seconds respectively, it only takes two cycles for him to run out of mana and be completely reliant on regen. At that point Tear is the most efficient item I found, as for 980 it increases his base mana pool the most while providing decent mana regen... and once it turns into Archangel you basically rarely need to worry about mana, because 25+28(from runes @ 18)+15 (Meditation) = crazy.
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 12 2010 12:39 GMT
#5264
Silence before the storm inhere?

All people preparing season one crazyness?
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
July 12 2010 12:58 GMT
#5265
is season 1 crossserver?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 12 2010 13:16 GMT
#5266
On July 12 2010 21:58 dnosrc wrote:
is season 1 crossserver?


No
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
July 12 2010 14:05 GMT
#5267
On July 12 2010 21:39 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Silence before the storm inhere?

All people preparing season one crazyness?


SC2 beta is back, i haven't played a single game of this since beta came back lol...
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 12 2010 14:07 GMT
#5268
On July 12 2010 21:39 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Silence before the storm inhere?

All people preparing season one crazyness?


Posting seems perfectly fine to me?
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 12 2010 14:10 GMT
#5269
today i just hv my fastest game evar. Its end in 16 mins and 40+ seconds. I wonder if there is actually a strat to end game asap such as soraka + heim?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 12 2010 14:15 GMT
#5270
No matter what, you're still usually reliant on opponents messing up majorly to end a game that fast :p
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 12 2010 14:29 GMT
#5271
On July 12 2010 23:10 NB wrote:
today i just hv my fastest game evar. Its end in 16 mins and 40+ seconds. I wonder if there is actually a strat to end game asap such as soraka + heim?

There's strats like that involving Janna, Ezreal, Soraka, Heimerdinger, and something else. It works if your opponents don't have a decent lineup.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 12 2010 14:32 GMT
#5272
Is Nashor doable on lvl 1 like Roshan was?
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 12 2010 14:33 GMT
#5273
On July 12 2010 23:32 BluzMan wrote:
Is Nashor doable on lvl 1 like Roshan was?


lol, no. You used to be able to solo with Shaco at level 11 but Riot looks down on such ridiculous Baroning, I think the best you can do is duo at level 13 with certain hero pairs.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 12 2010 14:40 GMT
#5274
On July 12 2010 23:33 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2010 23:32 BluzMan wrote:
Is Nashor doable on lvl 1 like Roshan was?


lol, no. You used to be able to solo with Shaco at level 11 but Riot looks down on such ridiculous Baroning, I think the best you can do is duo at level 13 with certain hero pairs.

Shaco can solo with razors, starks and GA... but you normally won't get those items before at least lvl 15 :/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 14:45:52
July 12 2010 14:44 GMT
#5275
On July 12 2010 23:33 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2010 23:32 BluzMan wrote:
Is Nashor doable on lvl 1 like Roshan was?


lol, no. You used to be able to solo with Shaco at level 11 but Riot looks down on such ridiculous Baroning, I think the best you can do is duo at level 13 with certain hero pairs.


No, I don't mean solo. There were certain lineups in DotA/HoN that could take on Roshan on level 1. Not solo, but 5vRoshan.

Is this possible in LoL? Do Nashor's stats depend on gametime?
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 12 2010 14:45 GMT
#5276
I don't think Baron even spawns until the 15 minute mark
it's my first day
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 14:46:30
July 12 2010 14:46 GMT
#5277
On July 12 2010 23:44 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2010 23:33 Southlight wrote:
On July 12 2010 23:32 BluzMan wrote:
Is Nashor doable on lvl 1 like Roshan was?


lol, no. You used to be able to solo with Shaco at level 11 but Riot looks down on such ridiculous Baroning, I think the best you can do is duo at level 13 with certain hero pairs.


No, I don't mean solo. There were certain lineups in DotA/HoN that could take on Roshan on level 1. Not solo, but 5vRoshan.

Is this possible in LoL? Do Nashor's stats depend on gametime?

It spawns at 15 minutes, at which point most teams can take it.

EDIT: yeah it scales with time
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 12 2010 14:46 GMT
#5278
Nashor's stats are based on amounts of Nashor kills, just like how Roshan got stronger after every kill, IIRC.

Baron spawns like 15 minutes in at the earliest (if I'm not mistaken?). There're team compositions that can rush Baron at 15 minutes but it's highly risky because if they ward it (as they should) and they catch you, you're pretty screwed, and of course they can see you building for it (multiple Razors).
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 14:48:07
July 12 2010 14:47 GMT
#5279
iirc Dragon works the same way (killing it makes it stronger)
it's my first day
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 12 2010 14:48 GMT
#5280
Bleh, killing Rosh the moment he spawns and then ending stuff with one decisive push was the most fun thing to do.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
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