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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
October 27 2010 02:26 GMT
#27041
On October 27 2010 11:25 Dezzimal wrote:
Someone brought up an interesting idea for Udyr in pvpnet chat. Glyphing straight mana gives you a bunch of regen with the golem buff, which will let you finish your first round of the jungle with more health as you can do turtlephoenix spam and keep your monkey's stacks up.


If glyphing mana, you almost have to take SoS on him, right?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 27 2010 02:29 GMT
#27042
On October 27 2010 11:25 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 11:23 Surrealz wrote:
so any comments from anyone who actually plays lux? I wanna pull the trigger on this champion but don't want to forgo playing her and just going back to annie =|


I don't play her, but I've seen a fair number of them, and been unimpressed. She feels like "bad Sona" to me. Probably about on par with Janna. If you want a new, support caster with a badass ult, I'd go with Sona.

Are you calling Janna a bad Sona then O.o
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 02:35:11
October 27 2010 02:34 GMT
#27043
[image loading]


20-0
all towers still alive
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 27 2010 02:37 GMT
#27044
Apparently I can't Q because there's already a game in progress...Too bad we lost our Nexus and I saw the score screen of said game already ^_^ I guess that's what we get for losing to a bunch of baddies.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
October 27 2010 02:37 GMT
#27045
^ Closer than it looked tbh. We just didn't do anything too retarded and had really good map control. I cheated death several times.
Derp
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 27 2010 02:47 GMT
#27046
closer than it looks on a 20-0, no dead towers game is still not close enough to not justify a 25 minute surrender.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
October 27 2010 02:51 GMT
#27047
I just tried Sion laning with Janna who went shield first. I did so much damage I raped xin Zhao and zoned him out the whole time. Went on to do that 3 D blades thing and it worked really well.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
October 27 2010 02:52 GMT
#27048
except sion is better ap
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
October 27 2010 02:53 GMT
#27049
I've played with that tofusoup guy before, he's really bad
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 27 2010 02:55 GMT
#27050
On October 27 2010 11:25 Dezzimal wrote:
Someone brought up an interesting idea for Udyr in pvpnet chat. Glyphing straight mana gives you a bunch of regen with the golem buff, which will let you finish your first round of the jungle with more health as you can do turtlephoenix spam and keep your monkey's stacks up.

You mean the flat mana glyphs that I combined away might have been useful for something?

Fuuuuuuuuuu-

I'll still take my new armor pen quint over some flat mana that *could* be useful on a character I don't own yet.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 27 2010 02:56 GMT
#27051
DPS Sion works just fine if thats the playstyle he enjoys more. Solo games tend to last ages anyways since people drag games on for no reason (look at screenshot on the page ).
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 27 2010 03:07 GMT
#27052
On October 27 2010 11:47 Mogwai wrote:
closer than it looks on a 20-0, no dead towers game is still not close enough to not justify a 25 minute surrender.


They didn't even try to surrender ;( no votes or anything.
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
October 27 2010 03:24 GMT
#27053
On October 27 2010 11:25 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 11:23 Surrealz wrote:
so any comments from anyone who actually plays lux? I wanna pull the trigger on this champion but don't want to forgo playing her and just going back to annie =|


I don't play her, but I've seen a fair number of them, and been unimpressed. She feels like "bad Sona" to me. Probably about on par with Janna. If you want a new, support caster with a badass ult, I'd go with Sona.


I've played her in about 25 normal games against 1400-1500 people. Haven't used her in ranked yet, but I've only just now hit 10 ranked games so not surprising.

I wouldn't compare her to Sona or Janna at all. She's classified as support, but the amount of support she brings her team isn't anywhere close to them. On either end of the spectrum...if Sona gets a few items (I run Locket, Mejai's, Boots as core) and then the team pushes she wins. Janna requires almost no items. You can stack D Rings. Lux.. well, she needs a lot of items to do more damage, but then you're not even getting a big benefit from the farm.

Right now she's just a worse version of Morg; she has a bind and a shield, but the shield isn't the most overpowered support ability in the game. Her slow barely slows the enemy team, so it's basically just Clairvoyance + damage. Laser is fun but doesn't hurt much late game, and doesn't have the game changing effects of Soul Shackles.

She's really, really fun to play, but since her support abilities aren't strong and her damage isn't strong, you lose a lot unless you're on a team with really, really strong damage output, because a lot of times her effect is so little it's like fighting 4v5. I think the passive change that's coming will help her a lot, so I think she'll be better, but right now she's at the lowest tier of support with Soraka.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 03:30:27
October 27 2010 03:28 GMT
#27054
I have seen lux go something like 17-0-X though. Shes not amazing, but shes certainly not terrible. And like everyone else, she kicks ass if you get lots of stacks on meijas.
Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
October 27 2010 03:33 GMT
#27055
On October 27 2010 11:26 oberon wrote:
If glyphing mana, you almost have to take SoS on him, right?


You can spare one point for that mastery if you are going 1/14/15, more if you're going 1/21/8 and building true tank.

On October 27 2010 11:22 oberon wrote:
He doesn't initiate or jungle as well as mummy...I guess he can take more pounding, but...really?


After his W buff in this latest patch I think he's significantly faster than any other jungling tank. He's also certainly the most fun tank to initiate on.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 27 2010 03:58 GMT
#27056
On October 27 2010 12:33 Dezzimal wrote:
You can spare one point for that mastery if you are going 1/14/15, more if you're going 1/21/8 and building true tank.

What? I thought 1/14/15 got 3/3 SoS.

SoS > Evasion?
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 27 2010 04:07 GMT
#27057
Yeah anyone taking dodge/nimbleness OVER SoS is crazy. Strength of Spirit is the only reason I go into defensive tree at all anymore.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 27 2010 04:09 GMT
#27058
On October 27 2010 12:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 12:33 Dezzimal wrote:
You can spare one point for that mastery if you are going 1/14/15, more if you're going 1/21/8 and building true tank.

What? I thought 1/14/15 got 3/3 SoS.

SoS > Evasion?


everything > evasion/nimbleness unless you're udyr, jax, or have dodge seals.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 27 2010 04:14 GMT
#27059
On October 27 2010 12:33 Dezzimal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 11:26 oberon wrote:
If glyphing mana, you almost have to take SoS on him, right?


You can spare one point for that mastery if you are going 1/14/15, more if you're going 1/21/8 and building true tank.

Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 11:22 oberon wrote:
He doesn't initiate or jungle as well as mummy...I guess he can take more pounding, but...really?


After his W buff in this latest patch I think he's significantly faster than any other jungling tank. He's also certainly the most fun tank to initiate on.


his level 4 gank is also imo unparalleled
the taunt is supergay and he can easily get into range to use it (even under tower with his w or whatever it is) and with red blue you can't stop the gank unless you are hugging tower before you flash in which shouldn't happen if the opposing hero(s) are intelligent at all or if you're getting completely dominated in lane at which point he should gank some other lane
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 05:20:43
October 27 2010 05:14 GMT
#27060
red such a pro ashe
dies to milkfat
its ok shawz is carrying
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
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