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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
October 13 2010 18:19 GMT
#23981
having to jungle on a subpar jungler because WW switches to Urgot with 2 seconds left, then watching the urgot/trynd lane go 0/4 in the first 8 minutes rules
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 13 2010 18:20 GMT
#23982
On October 14 2010 03:15 myopia wrote:
What's good about Manamune now? Who's supposed to buy it?


its damage got buffed back to 2% of mana but also has the higher price tag so it's not a MUST BUY on every champ

get it on champs that use their skills on cooldown as well as have an auto attack. starting meki like the above post said, takes care of a lot of mana problems in lane too

pirate, ezrael, ashe, pantheon, olaf (eehhhhh jk but you could), tristana, mf, etc
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 13 2010 18:21 GMT
#23983
i like it on urgot :D
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 18:32:55
October 13 2010 18:30 GMT
#23984
On October 14 2010 03:05 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 02:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Yes, ashe is a bad autoattacker, but since you're ricing your lane solo and technically still a ranged carry, you're expected to provide the most sustainable damage to your team possible.

I'm sad to say that I don't like brut/GB as much as I used to. Sad because I was one of the first to suggest that build on Ashe, even before you I think.

And firing volley every 4 second isn't really that great of an idea.

it's less about actually firing Volley every 4 seconds than it is about having the option to fire volley every 4 seconds.

EDIT: have I mentioned that I think Manamune is in a really good place right now? I think the item is exactly where it should be.


Yeah, and I can appreciate that, but right now Ashe is in such a bad place solo-wise that I can't even begin to make any real use of that 4-second volley. Having the option to use it is great, but I just don't get a whole lot of opportunity to make that happen.

I'm of the opinion that there's a pretty big difference between 25% slow and 35% slow, which is what you get with level 3 and level 5 frost arrow respectively, as it's the difference between punishing vlad with 2 v 3 attacks for trying to Q you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 18:31 GMT
#23985
On October 14 2010 03:20 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 03:15 myopia wrote:
What's good about Manamune now? Who's supposed to buy it?


its damage got buffed back to 2% of mana but also has the higher price tag so it's not a MUST BUY on every champ

get it on champs that use their skills on cooldown as well as have an auto attack. starting meki like the above post said, takes care of a lot of mana problems in lane too

pirate, ezrael, ashe, pantheon, olaf (eehhhhh jk but you could), tristana, mf, etc

well, tbh, it was never a must buy, but it was certainly a little too good. the 200 gold increase made the Manamune vs. BF Sword case much more interesting and let it properly fill its niche as an attractive mid-game AD item that solves mana issues. The character that it's biggest on isn't even on your list (Corki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). And Pantheon shouldn't get it unless jungling, but it's good for him when he's jungling again (yay!).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 13 2010 18:41 GMT
#23986
i've only played a couple games as corki before Manamune was out
that 6300 price tag is daunting!

but yeah i mean it really works on any dps that has spam skills... no need to list them all

also if you play at the 700 elo level you will see that it is also a great item on malzahar, fiddlesticks, annie, blitzcrank and alistar. also boots are bad items at that level, true story
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 13 2010 18:45 GMT
#23987
Seems like it'd be good on Ezreal and if I ever had to play a ranged carry in a game I'd try it on him. Also, I should learn how to play ranged DPS.
Retvrn to Forvms
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 18:48 GMT
#23988
I hate playing ranged carries, but I think I'm going to start playing Corki for realsies soon.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 13 2010 18:56 GMT
#23989
so in my major (petroleum engineering) i have to take a class on visual basic to learn some programming which is supposed to help us in our careers so we can program complex equations into spreadsheets and user forms and whatnot... that's all good and well but

if i was to use this newfound knowledge of basic programming and write a program that calculated your DPS, would you kids download it and run it and put it in the OP and the wiki?

i'm thinking pretty broad scale work here, it'd take me a while. it would work something like
1) you picked the champ you were playing as and you input your level
2) you picked the champ you were playing against and their level
2.5) you'd give your runes and masteries totals for the important stuff (attack damage, HP quints, etc... not SoS or good hands though)
3) you would either enter your additional damage and arpen and ASpd from items (you'd have to calculate it outside... ie you'd have to say you had 130 damage and 20% crit chance for BF sword and Infinity edge) OR you could do checkboxes for each item that you have (this would be more work for me but easier for the user)
4) you'd then do the same for the enemy champ
5) it would output your DPS on them based on how much attack damage, attack speed, arpen you have, and compare it to their HP and armor, and do the same for them on you
6) it would tell you how long it would take for you to kill them and how long for them to kill you, and who would die first

7) i might put in two offensive inputs so you could see which of two builds provided higher DPS
8)not sure how hard it would be to implement lifesteal or health regen so i most likely wouldn't include those

of course it'd be a microsoft excel based sheet but i'd code everything in VBA so it would have a pretty interface instead of ugly cells and stuff

so if i did this, i would probably write the basics of the code
i.e. for input player and level i'd do something like
akaliHP = X + Y*Z
where X = base HP, Y = hp/level growth, and Z = level

and i'd ask if people could go to the official website, find out akali's base HP and growth, write those into my code, and PM it to me... it would be a little group project
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 13 2010 19:05 GMT
#23990
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN
LOL

[image loading]

After yi was 18-0 i sorta gave up then..somehow we won
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 19:10 GMT
#23991
that's so pathetic I wanna puke. That Yi must have 0 fucking sense. He should have been able to just rapestroy all your towers in 0 seconds but it looks like he never fucking pushed, he just fed off you guys and then did nothing or something. He should probably also have had a GA or something in place of a BT. or like, some boots or something, I dunno, it's completely retarded to lose a game where you farmed well over 20K gold.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 13 2010 19:11 GMT
#23992
On October 14 2010 04:05 arb wrote:
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN
LOL

[image loading]

After yi was 18-0 i sorta gave up then..somehow we won


had a similar game against a certain sbelmont's twitch that was kinda amusing, we basically just targeted him and shut him down for the rest of the game and his team couldnt really do anything without him.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
October 13 2010 19:15 GMT
#23993
On October 14 2010 03:41 gtrsrs wrote:
i've only played a couple games as corki before Manamune was out
that 6300 price tag is daunting!

but yeah i mean it really works on any dps that has spam skills... no need to list them all

also if you play at the 700 elo level you will see that it is also a great item on malzahar, fiddlesticks, annie, blitzcrank and alistar. also boots are bad items at that level, true story


(pdancer / fon / lichbane / triforce) > boots imo
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 13 2010 19:22 GMT
#23994
On October 14 2010 03:45 Chrispy wrote:
Seems like it'd be good on Ezreal and if I ever had to play a ranged carry in a game I'd try it on him. Also, I should learn how to play ranged DPS.


Eh, I don't see room for it on Ezreal. I get Bloodthirster/Ghostblade/Triforce in some order, sometimes another Bruta, then it's time to build survivability.

And why would you want to build manamune so you can swap out your mp5 runes? MP5's are the best runes in the game, you use them precisely because buying mana regen in game is inefficient.
it's my first day
Kingske
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium252 Posts
October 13 2010 19:28 GMT
#23995
On October 14 2010 04:11 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 04:05 arb wrote:
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN
LOL

[image loading]

After yi was 18-0 i sorta gave up then..somehow we won


had a similar game against a certain sbelmont's twitch that was kinda amusing, we basically just targeted him and shut him down for the rest of the game and his team couldnt really do anything without him.

wat a game that was

also, in the end, Tristana clearly raped. She always does really late game. Kills chars in like 5 hits
Bravery! - Livestream.com/frogtails
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 13 2010 19:30 GMT
#23996
freeing up yellows and blues gives you some pretty good survivability options.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
October 13 2010 19:34 GMT
#23997
Ugh...

Maybe Im old fashioned or something and actually understand what a word means,

but Practice is playing games that arent really ranked or anything for the purpose of making yourslef a better player.

Yet I get in a Practice Game cause I finally unlocked Kog'Maw and I wanted to practice him n get better.

And this is whats on my team -

HAIIIII
HAIIIIIII HAIIII OH NOEZ I IZ DEDZZZZ

10 minutes in the game and the enemy twitch & warwick had 20 kills each, and I seemed to be the only person who didn't die more then 12 times.
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 13 2010 19:38 GMT
#23998
Practice games=special class or ARAM. Or both.

True story.
hero33
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada122 Posts
October 13 2010 19:39 GMT
#23999
kog-maw is bad to buy. 9/10 its gunna be banned lol. get a friendly character like olaf or tristana
Anyone can become famous, Just set urself on fire
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
October 13 2010 19:39 GMT
#24000
Practice games = 11 minute IP farm.
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