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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On October 01 2010 15:20 NeoIllusions wrote: Warmog is a terrible ass item. Don't kid yourself. There's so many better tank items for Mord. well if you were to pick the shittiest items in LoL, would it be Warmogs? or other shit like manamune? | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 01 2010 21:38 Shizuru~ wrote: well if you were to pick the shittiest items in LoL, would it be Warmogs? or other shit like manamune? warmog's is justifiable on morde for the sole fact that he can eat creepwaves en masse, so its really not particularly hard to max out stacks. its the same reason why sivir can justify getting it, simply due to how easy it is for them to max it out. Is it the best option? well, idunno, im not a morde player, but it certainly shouldnt just be written off as an option. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 01 2010 21:38 Shizuru~ wrote: well if you were to pick the shittiest items in LoL, would it be Warmogs? or other shit like manamune? I'd say Exec's Calling, Tiamat, and that new Shurelia's Reverie shit are probably all worse still, nerfed manamune as well ya. Leviathan is pretty terrible too, I mean if you can get and keep 20 stacks it's really good, but that's so incredibly unrealistic. Warmog's is bad for a different reason, 'in theory' it could be a good/great item if games lasted longer on average, but your first 3kish gold going into an item that requires another 100cs to shine is hard to justify. At least something like RoA matures without you farming wave after wave, warmogs requires an actual effort into continuing to farm creeps that most champs who value huge chunks of health just can't bank on. Edit: Also, I dunno if it's 'shitty' but Will of the Ancients is like never used, ever. Abyssal gives the same AP, +big MR, and an aura that nets more damage, for ~700 more gold. Maybe if spell vamp were better... | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
As for things I rarely see, other than Will of the Ancients, I would list Black Cleaver, Wit's End and Sword of the Divine. This is in addition to what red_ already mentioned. I personally think Sword of the Occult isn't worth it either, but it's not as bad as Leviathan. | ||
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Southlight
United States11762 Posts
Cleaver, WE, and SotD are all used, and you could make an argument that they are underused. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
 Hahhaa | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
Compare it to Levi (hey, I'm a worse unupgradeable giant's belt until 10 stacks on the char that's supposed to die the most HOWYADOIN), Bravemat (joke builds aside, if you can win with tiamats, you could have won with just about any DPS item), Malady (...) or Shureyla's (even less likely to score kills than Calling, except it costs 1k more without adding any actual burst damage.), and I think it lives comfortably in the niche of 'items you probably won't need but can be useful sometimes'. I think it could stand to see a little buff, though. P.S. Tiamat idea: -Faerie / Regen Bead, +Philosopher's stone, change stats to Philo stats including gold/5 and up cost to like 2300? | ||
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
Sword of the Divine is a situational item i'd say (vs Jax, Sivir for example) | ||
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Southlight
United States11762 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:37 Niton wrote: Executioner's calling is a fringe item, though. If you don't have enough Ignites and your team is getting owned by healing (supports / MUNDO / lifeleech), a 1350g investment can net you kills that wouldn't otherwise happen. Compare it to Levi (hey, I'm a worse unupgradeable giant's belt until 10 stacks on the char that's supposed to die the most HOWYADOIN), Bravemat (joke builds aside, if you can win with tiamats, you could have won with just about any DPS item), Malady (...) or Shureyla's (even less likely to score kills than Calling, except it costs 1k more without adding any actual burst damage.), and I think it lives comfortably in the niche of 'items you probably won't need but can be useful sometimes'. I think it could stand to see a little buff, though. P.S. Tiamat idea: -Faerie / Regen Bead, +Philosopher's stone, change stats to Philo stats including gold/5 and up cost to like 2300? In ranked you never should have too few Ignites as you get to see your opponents' picks. In normal, I would agree that it can help against healing/regen. Hey I proposed that Tiamat change (except for the gold/10) a while ago! Won't happen now though since Philo already builds into Reverie. And Gold/10 will probably never make it into a T3 item... Duh now I want an item that builds from Philo, Avarice, Kage's and HoG and has a huge gold/10 with few/low other stats. Completely retarded for sure, but fun. | ||
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Kingske
Belgium252 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:39 audeo wrote: black cleaver is definitaley underused. no lifesteal :S Sword of the Divine is a situational item i'd say (vs Jax, Sivir for example) When ever do you vs Jax or Sivir? | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:37 Chrispy wrote: Maaaan. I've been addicted to playing Aram. It's like playing UMS or bgh in starcraft... they're loads of fun and you really don't give a shit if you win or lose. HahhaaDo people only want lvl 30s in ARAM? I'd like to try but I'm only 22. I also just played my first game as WW, it went pretty well for me screwing up my masteries and only getting the 10 in utility before the game started...I was also like the previous poster and screwed up my first gank (and then got killed by their WW) but it went well after that. | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:42 Southlight wrote: Ignoring the anti-dodge, SotD gives a block 30 armor pen for X seconds, making it the strongest flat armor pen item in the game. I think people calculated such that it's significantly stronger than Last Whisper until the opponent hits a certain threshold of armor. It only lasts 5 seconds, I would hope it does more than LW in the 5 seconds =[ Haven't seen someone buy SotD for months now, except for Baddi Xins. Edit: Stop saying Sivir is bad ;< | ||
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Southlight
United States11762 Posts
On October 01 2010 23:17 Yiruru wrote: It only lasts 5 seconds, I would hope it does more than LW in the 5 seconds =[ Hey, hey, in a game where Pantheon can Aegis for 20,000 range you can never be sure. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On October 01 2010 23:15 Jaksiel wrote: Do people only want lvl 30s in ARAM? I'd like to try but I'm only 22. I also just played my first game as WW, it went pretty well for me screwing up my masteries and only getting the 10 in utility before the game started...I was also like the previous poster and screwed up my first gank (and then got killed by their WW) but it went well after that. Not too sure but in my experience even if they say only 30's if you're like 27 or something close to that it's usually okay. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
It surely is situational though. | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
On October 01 2010 23:33 Southlight wrote: Hey, hey, in a game where Pantheon can Aegis for 20,000 range you can never be sure. Ok, can't really argue with that. I remember when I got stunned for a full second from Taric... orz | ||
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Southlight
United States11762 Posts
>_> | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
On October 01 2010 21:58 red_ wrote: Edit: Also, I dunno if it's 'shitty' but Will of the Ancients is like never used, ever. Abyssal gives the same AP, +big MR, and an aura that nets more damage, for ~700 more gold. Maybe if spell vamp were better... I could see it being used over Abyssal in the old kiting meta. The AP is better than penetration on supports and you dont get to use the aura much if you are kiting the other team. | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
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