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There is method to my madness! Also I play for late-game too much, perhaps.
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Southlight
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Edit: There is method to my madness! Also I play for late-game too much, perhaps. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 02 2010 00:56 Mogwai wrote: I tend to work towards the same items every game but do so in very weird, game dependent orders. Laning against Kass/Vlad/Morg, I typically grab a negatron on my first back just to give them a big "fuck you" for the rest of the laning phase. It makes a way bigger difference than say, grabbing 2 long swords to work into my brutalizer. Word son... I'm definitely a big advocate of Negatron first when building a Banshee's. Only exception is if I'm a solo caster lane and I open Blue Crystal first for an early Catalyst. You get to actually make use of the Catalyst passive. Otherwise, you get a lot more EHP with Negatron than Catalyst beyond level 10. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On October 02 2010 00:59 NeoIllusions wrote: Some kind soul livereport and chat with me ploxxxxx. I'm stuck at a place where I can't stream anything for at least another 3 hours.  Riot launching special observer client on a windows desktop. Connection failed. Lol server #1 priority! | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 02 2010 01:00 Southlight wrote: In case you're wondering, the reason I went that item setup is because I was side-lane so I didn't feel the pressing need to output as much damage as possible, so when I went back once with 1600 I just bought the NLR as a future investment (for Zhonya) - at the time I was like level 9 and was still getting great mileage out of Cata. Then I was running into the issue of taking too much damage from Ezreal (their only big threat and also my #1 targeting priority... but up to that point he'd started hunted me down in fights and killed me twice) so I bought Chain... and later Null as I worked toward GA for better survivability and to fulfill my tank/support role. Suuuuure Uta. Keep telling yourself that's the reason why you went Catalyst => NLR => Chain => Null. I've seen level 5 summoners with better item builds!  | ||
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GogoKodo
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NeoIllusions
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ToT)OjKa(
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Southlight
United States11762 Posts
On October 02 2010 01:03 NeoIllusions wrote: Suuuuure Uta. Keep telling yourself that's the reason why you went Catalyst => NLR => Chain => Null. I've seen level 5 summoners with better item builds! T_T It burns! | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On October 02 2010 01:06 NeoIllusions wrote: Kodo, do you know the match list for the 4 team? :o I presume it's just CLG, SK, ChinaHero and the SEA team, right? I don't know the details. I believe you are right, 4 teams, group stage today. Don't know when elimination bracket will be, but finals are tomorrow and will be streamed on the wcg stream. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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<3 and thanks Kodo. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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On October 02 2010 01:06 ToT)OjKa( wrote: I JUST BOUGHT GRAGAS Be sure to use your ulti whenever you see your team's Galio, Amumu, Morgana ulti! Gragas provides great synergy! | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 02 2010 00:55 Juicyfruit wrote: I have a compulsive need to spend all my monies everytime I'm at base. Usually that just ends up me buying the most expensive item I can afford and then ward/elixir/health pots That's why I'm so eager to buy NLR or BF sword during my first B. I'm never gonna get that much freefarm after that and I don't know how to save money, haha I'm sure you'd love a Ghostblade/Brutalizer build - not a single part more expensive than 600. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
On October 02 2010 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote: Be sure to use your ulti whenever you see your team's Galio, Amumu, Morgana ulti! Gragas provides great synergy! lol! | ||
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GogoKodo
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Southlight
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I've routinely had weird build games where I go Cata -> Negatron -> Chain -> RoA -> Zhon and people are like wtf is your cloak/chain for and I'm like "uhhh, their Annie and MF" or whatnot. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 02 2010 01:17 Southlight wrote: On a related note, though, when do you draw the line between finishing a big item and reacting to game flow? I've routinely had weird build games where I go Cata -> Negatron -> Chain -> RoA -> Zhon and people are like wtf is your cloak/chain for and I'm like "uhhh, their Annie and MF" or whatnot. Not that often tbh. Finishing that Rod a few minutes early over getting that Negatron isn't a bad move. More HP and over time HP gain from Rod is a plus. Also, for every end game item you get (RoA, Zhonya's, Sunfire, etc), there's more gain to finishing those items earlier than to hold on to their pieces for later completion. Likewise, if you're working on that Zhonya's but not yet getting to Banshee's, you could play it safer and way for Zhonya's to finish so you have the invul active to fall back on. But you would be justified to get that Negatron a bit earlier if there are 2-3 casters on their team. Long story short, finish items as early as possible, you definitely get more mileage out of the final item than its pieces. If you need to split your item builds, 2 end game item paths at most, no more than that. Typically, you're splitting between an Offensive and Defensive item. | ||
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GogoKodo
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Hey guys! We're getting ready to start here. We'll be streaming two games in parallel. First round games will be Team China Hero vs Team SK Gaming and Team Another Story vs Team Counter-Logic Gaming. We'll update the streams below to tell you which is which. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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Jazriel
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Southlight
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For example that weird Kass game I was actually looking at going GA -> Zhonya and then I'll think about what to do with the Catalyst later. Hence why I bought NLR and then started building for GA - the 40 AP boost from NLR was nice. In retrospect it may have been better to skip the NLR altogether and just rushing the GA and then coming back to AP, or building SS and going for GA that way, but that's going home with 1600 gold for you, lol. Also when it comes to certain defensive items (Chain/Nega) I'm content sitting on them without even building them into anything. Hence why I brought up the times I pop up with Cata -> Chain -> Negatron -> resume regular build, without ever touching those two items again. I feel like there's a thin line to tread, there... ... but at the same time I understand the perks of finishing a big item early (like Zhonya). Edit: For example, if you're getting your butt whooped by Ezreal, it doesn't make sense to me to buy Blasting Wand to work towards a completed RoA instead of just buying Chain Vest. | ||
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