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HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 02:03:57
April 23 2011 01:22 GMT
#841
Epic 5v5 charity event in Japan, for the earthquake. Teams are stacked as hell.
Stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/topanga-tv
Stream 2: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/topanga-tv2
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
cccalf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
April 23 2011 06:32 GMT
#842
On April 23 2011 10:22 HansMoleman wrote:
Epic 5v5 charity event in Japan, for the earthquake. Teams are stacked as hell.
Stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/topanga-tv
Stream 2: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/topanga-tv2

I'm really loving the diversity of characters being used. Yun, Fei, Yun, Yun, Yun, Yun, Fei........
LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
April 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#843
stream laggy for anyone?
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 09:57:50
April 23 2011 09:15 GMT
#844
Lololol, Tokido. Ahaha, oh man...

And team Daigo/Tokido/Mago/Bonchan/Nyanshi won the tournament. Not too surprising but way too close, Umehara had to 3-kill in the finals.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
April 23 2011 13:53 GMT
#845
Never played fighters too seriously but I want to start now, looking around on the internet i find fighting controllers for about $40 or the arcade sticks for $140-150. Now I get that the sticks are superior but money is kind of an issue these days for me, is the 100 dollars extra worth it or will a controller do just fine?
no dude, the question
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
April 23 2011 14:01 GMT
#846
well, if you have arcades in your area then you should get a stick to not be clueless if there is a tournament on arcade machines

but since you are from Netherlands I guess it's not the case

very few places in Europe have arcades (maybe only France?)
And all is illuminated.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
April 23 2011 14:03 GMT
#847
Yeah, i think there are like 2 respectable ones in the entire country and I live at the very south; they're nowhere close to me. But it's not like a stick give that much more/better controll?
no dude, the question
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
April 23 2011 14:09 GMT
#848
when im doing a ex focus attack into ultra do I just press focus or do I need to fadc to ultra? i dunno if I can't get the timing right or I'm too slow haha
cccalf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
April 23 2011 16:29 GMT
#849
On April 23 2011 23:09 TrainFX wrote:
when im doing a ex focus attack into ultra do I just press focus or do I need to fadc to ultra? i dunno if I can't get the timing right or I'm too slow haha

It depends on the character and the combo. For example, doing Rufus' ex.messiah kick, light kick follow up, FADC, ultra 1. In this combo you need to use the ex focus attack to cancel out of the flip kick follow up from the ex.messiah kick. When you do this you will have to dash so that the ex focus attack does not go all the way through. Make sure you are still holding medium punch and medium kick as you input the dash forward because if you just tap them the focus attack you will get the lv. 1 focus and not the dash.
For a character like DeeJay you need to hit with the ex.focus attack in a combo to go into ultra 1. To make things more difficult you need it to get to lv.2 focus so that it will crumple them and not just be a normal hit. It requires a really good sense of timing, so I would not suggest trying to master it before more fundamental parts of gameplay.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
April 23 2011 21:06 GMT
#850
Getting better at doing the trials now! I'm so gosu 8)
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 23 2011 21:33 GMT
#851
yes yes yes the street fighter 4 thread! hello again!

Excal, my Sakura is better than yours
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 23 2011 21:43 GMT
#852


that last match
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Wasteland
Profile Joined March 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 22:12:22
April 23 2011 21:45 GMT
#853
On April 23 2011 23:09 TrainFX wrote:
when im doing a ex focus attack into ultra do I just press focus or do I need to fadc to ultra? i dunno if I can't get the timing right or I'm too slow haha


Those are two different things. Focus attack into ultra relies on the crumple effect of level two and three. Whereas level one focus only crumples on counter hit. FADC setups require a move to be canceled into the ultra (a la Ryu DP into Ultra 1). To land either focus crumple into ultra or FADC ultras you always have to dash (I think. I can't really think of a situation where you let an ultra rip without dashing after it's connected, and you have to dash to fadc). Right before the focus is about to complete level three, or you let go of forward/strong to end it at whatever level you choose, input the dash, kind of like buffering, so you can start the ultra input right away. This is less practical advice in fadc situations though, I'm afraid, because the inputs are always pretty quick.



On April 23 2011 22:53 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Never played fighters too seriously but I want to start now, looking around on the internet i find fighting controllers for about $40 or the arcade sticks for $140-150. Now I get that the sticks are superior but money is kind of an issue these days for me, is the 100 dollars extra worth it or will a controller do just fine?


You don't need a stick to play. A lot of people prefer the stick, but there are some successful pad players -- Wolfcrone, and Vangief come to mind, but they just use PS3 controllers I believe, not the fight pads that Madcatz and the like sell. In my opinion, sticks give you a little more control over your inputs, whereas pads tend to be faster. If you want take fighting games seriously, you should at least try a stick. At first the transition takes a bit of time, but I doubt I could play on a pad for most fighting games anymore. A cheap solution is the Madcatz SE, but I, along with many others, have had problems with the stock parts. It is super inexpensive, I think I found one online for 30$, but you certainly get what you pay for in terms of quality.
HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
April 23 2011 22:08 GMT
#854
On April 23 2011 22:53 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Never played fighters too seriously but I want to start now, looking around on the internet i find fighting controllers for about $40 or the arcade sticks for $140-150. Now I get that the sticks are superior but money is kind of an issue these days for me, is the 100 dollars extra worth it or will a controller do just fine?

Stick is definitely the way to go, if you want the full experience. If money is an issue, get the $40 Hori, and if you are really liking it you can upgrade the buttons and joystick with the exact Sanwa parts that are in the TE Sticks. The only real difference at that point is size, the TE ways 10 lbs and is fairly large which is nice. The Hori weighs significantly less than the TE, and is much smaller too. Although yes, you can compete with a pad, I find playing on a stick much more fun and rewarding.
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
cccalf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
April 24 2011 07:19 GMT
#855
In regards to stick/pad, I really think it is entirely a matter of comfort for the player. Regardless of what anyone says, if you focus on playing a certain way, you can be successful. Some people say that pad play is only viable for charge characters and that certain motions are just too awkward to be performed on pad with high consistency, but then there are people like wolfkrone who play execution heavy characters like C. Viper with great success.
Since I play E. Honda, but I feel like he is one character that is much easier to use on stick because of how crucial canceling into Hands is. I don't know how someone could do hands cancels on pad, but I am sure there is someone who has done it consistently.
I am actually wanting to abandon the arcade stick for this alternative controller.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
April 24 2011 07:45 GMT
#856
I feel stick is vastly superior to pad if you want to be able to play all characters. I think it's difficult to configure your controller, especially with certain characters and movesets, to be able to do certain moves or techniques consistently, FADC or kara moves for example. Wolfkrone (viper) and Inthul (fei-long) are good pad players who come to mind, but their characters don't really even use FADC or kara moves, unless you want to count FADCing out of the flame kick into chicken wing but I don't think I've seen inthul do that much anyway. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Wolfkrone recently switched to stick, and I haven't heard much of Inthul since he beat Sanford Kelly in some east coast tournament.

I'm actually a pad player myself, but I'm not a serious player. Getting a stick is a commitment to the game for me because of the price, but I may get one soon.
Pulp can move, baby!
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
April 24 2011 19:55 GMT
#857
Thanks for all the replies <3
So yeah, stick it is, looking around now which one to buy. I dont want to blame all of it on the controller but trying to do FADC ultra on ryu for example on the standard x360 controller is wanting me to cut my wirsts.
no dude, the question
cccalf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
April 24 2011 20:01 GMT
#858
On April 25 2011 04:55 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Thanks for all the replies <3
So yeah, stick it is, looking around now which one to buy. I dont want to blame all of it on the controller but trying to do FADC ultra on ryu for example on the standard x360 controller is wanting me to cut my wirsts.

Do used the stick or the d-pad?
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 20:21:36
April 24 2011 20:21 GMT
#859
On April 25 2011 05:01 cccalf wrote:
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On April 25 2011 04:55 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Thanks for all the replies <3
So yeah, stick it is, looking around now which one to buy. I dont want to blame all of it on the controller but trying to do FADC ultra on ryu for example on the standard x360 controller is wanting me to cut my wirsts.

Do used the stick or the d-pad?

Stick... I started out on the d-pad, but then I found a trainings partner online who was back then way better than me and he was playing just with the stick. Feel like its better when doing the quarter circle moves because the d-pad doesnt registrate the forward-down too well. (could be wrong)
no dude, the question
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 29 2011 20:48 GMT
#860


giggle giggle
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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