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On March 31 2011 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 21:35 ScarletKnight wrote: Not yet. Smogon is still going through the game, but the tiers should be out soon, hopefully.
They did recently ban Blaziken to Ubers though. why Blaziken?
Because of Speed Boost. Give it 2-3 turns and it outspeeds all its counters. And since Fire/Fighting is already great coverage, and it has extremely powerful STABs with 120 base Attack, it's too good for OU.
You're only hope is a bulky Water with priority. But you better hope that Blaziken didn't Swords Dance or Sub or something already >.>
I wonder if my Vaporeon could take a hit from it and Haze to get rid of the Speed Boosts...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:52 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 31 2011 21:35 ScarletKnight wrote: Not yet. Smogon is still going through the game, but the tiers should be out soon, hopefully.
They did recently ban Blaziken to Ubers though. why Blaziken? Because of Speed Boost. Give it 2-3 turns and it outspeeds all its counters. And since Fire/Fighting is already great coverage, and it has extremely powerful STABs with 120 base Attack, it's too good for OU. You're only hope is a bulky Water with priority. But you better hope that Blaziken didn't Swords Dance or Sub or something already >.> I wonder if my Vaporeon could take a hit from it and Haze to get rid of the Speed Boosts...
thats utterly fucked up,of all the fire starters I expected Charizard to make it to Uber ;_;.
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On March 31 2011 21:52 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 31 2011 21:35 ScarletKnight wrote: Not yet. Smogon is still going through the game, but the tiers should be out soon, hopefully.
They did recently ban Blaziken to Ubers though. why Blaziken? Because of Speed Boost. Give it 2-3 turns and it outspeeds all its counters. And since Fire/Fighting is already great coverage, and it has extremely powerful STABs with 120 base Attack, it's too good for OU. You're only hope is a bulky Water with priority. But you better hope that Blaziken didn't Swords Dance or Sub or something already >.> I wonder if my Vaporeon could take a hit from it and Haze to get rid of the Speed Boosts...
Quite imba indeed
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On March 31 2011 22:12 Teton wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 21:52 Ferrose wrote:On March 31 2011 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 31 2011 21:35 ScarletKnight wrote: Not yet. Smogon is still going through the game, but the tiers should be out soon, hopefully.
They did recently ban Blaziken to Ubers though. why Blaziken? Because of Speed Boost. Give it 2-3 turns and it outspeeds all its counters. And since Fire/Fighting is already great coverage, and it has extremely powerful STABs with 120 base Attack, it's too good for OU. You're only hope is a bulky Water with priority. But you better hope that Blaziken didn't Swords Dance or Sub or something already >.> I wonder if my Vaporeon could take a hit from it and Haze to get rid of the Speed Boosts... Quite imba indeed 
The only legit counter I can think of is Slowbro. Or maybe Starmie. Maybe Jellicent? Those are the only Pokes I can think of that resist both of its STABs.
People have suggested some LOL counters. Like Alakazam with Focus Sash, or Shell Break Carracosta with Aqua Jet. I don't know what kinda world you live in if you think that a Rock Pokemon is a counter to a Fighting Pokemon >.<
Edit: I think that Azumarill could handle it, but besides countering Blaziken it's NU trash and even then you're screwed if the Sun is up D:
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Blaziken is overrated, yeah yeah hits hard is fast etc, but guess what so does the majority of the metagame, if he doesn't have protect there are a number of scarfed pokemon that can switch in on the swords dance, outspeed and 1hko, and if he does have protect jellicent counters him. plus his main attacks have massive recoil potential. Something as simple as switching in a ghost/using protect on a predicted hi jump kick will cripple him. He also has paper defenses when strong priority moves are everywhere.
Smogon just bans shit arbitrarily. Some of the people in high places there are truly idiotic, it's kinda sad because people will listen to it as it's the "teamliquid" of pokemon, I suppose each community deserves its own hub website.
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On March 31 2011 22:20 Asshat wrote: Blaziken is overrated, yeah yeah hits hard is fast etc, but guess what so does the majority of the metagame, plus his main attacks have massive recoil potential. Something as simple as switching in a ghost/using protect on a predicted hi jump kick will cripple him. He also has paper defenses when strong priority moves are everywhere.
Smogon just bans shit arbitrarily. Some of the people in high places there are truly idiotic, it's kinda sad because people will listen to it as it's the "teamliquid" of pokemon, I suppose each community deserves its own hub website.
Or dozens of people vote on it. And it's not like these votes never happen after much testing and analysis of usage statistics.
Very arbitrary, I'd say. 
Plus, no one is forcing you to use Smogon's rules anyway. So there's no point in complaining. You play in your court, we'll play in ours.
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On March 31 2011 22:14 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 22:12 Teton wrote:On March 31 2011 21:52 Ferrose wrote:On March 31 2011 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 31 2011 21:35 ScarletKnight wrote: Not yet. Smogon is still going through the game, but the tiers should be out soon, hopefully.
They did recently ban Blaziken to Ubers though. why Blaziken? Because of Speed Boost. Give it 2-3 turns and it outspeeds all its counters. And since Fire/Fighting is already great coverage, and it has extremely powerful STABs with 120 base Attack, it's too good for OU. You're only hope is a bulky Water with priority. But you better hope that Blaziken didn't Swords Dance or Sub or something already >.> I wonder if my Vaporeon could take a hit from it and Haze to get rid of the Speed Boosts... Quite imba indeed  The only legit counter I can think of is Slowbro. Or maybe Starmie. Maybe Jellicent? Those are the only Pokes I can think of that resist both of its STABs. People have suggested some LOL counters. Like Alakazam with Focus Sash, or Shell Break Carracosta with Aqua Jet. I don't know what kinda world you live in if you think that a Rock Pokemon is a counter to a Fighting Pokemon >.< Edit: I think that Azumarill could handle it, but besides countering Blaziken it's NU trash and even then you're screwed if the Sun is up D:
LOL counters indeed x). I should begin to watch the metagame added with the last gen the, as i didnt really check it out
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On March 31 2011 22:22 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 22:20 Asshat wrote: Blaziken is overrated, yeah yeah hits hard is fast etc, but guess what so does the majority of the metagame, plus his main attacks have massive recoil potential. Something as simple as switching in a ghost/using protect on a predicted hi jump kick will cripple him. He also has paper defenses when strong priority moves are everywhere.
Smogon just bans shit arbitrarily. Some of the people in high places there are truly idiotic, it's kinda sad because people will listen to it as it's the "teamliquid" of pokemon, I suppose each community deserves its own hub website. Or dozens of people vote on it. And it's not like these votes never happen after much testing and analysis of usage statistics. Very arbitrary, I'd say.  Plus, no one is forcing you to use Smogon's rules anyway. So there's no point in complaining. You play in your court, we'll play in ours. 
Smogon's rules are forced on everyone who plays the game in a semi-controlled level, you should know that. The people who vote on those things can be anywhere from "pokemon online superstars" from randoms that wrote a good article on the website once, hardly a good gauge of their competence.
Though it's not really surprising, they did the same to garchomp and salamence in gen 4, speed boost blaziken is just a worse version of those. Life goes on
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On March 31 2011 22:26 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 22:22 Ferrose wrote:On March 31 2011 22:20 Asshat wrote: Blaziken is overrated, yeah yeah hits hard is fast etc, but guess what so does the majority of the metagame, plus his main attacks have massive recoil potential. Something as simple as switching in a ghost/using protect on a predicted hi jump kick will cripple him. He also has paper defenses when strong priority moves are everywhere.
Smogon just bans shit arbitrarily. Some of the people in high places there are truly idiotic, it's kinda sad because people will listen to it as it's the "teamliquid" of pokemon, I suppose each community deserves its own hub website. Or dozens of people vote on it. And it's not like these votes never happen after much testing and analysis of usage statistics. Very arbitrary, I'd say.  Plus, no one is forcing you to use Smogon's rules anyway. So there's no point in complaining. You play in your court, we'll play in ours.  Smogon's rules are forced on everyone who plays the game in a semi-controlled level, you should know that. The people who vote on those things can be anywhere from "pokemon online superstars" from randoms that wrote a good article on the website once, hardly a good gauge of their competence. Though it's not really surprising, they did the same to garchomp and salamence in gen 4, speed boost blaziken is just a worse version of those. Life goes on
I think it'll get unbanned eventually, don't worry. The game hasn't even been out for a month. We still have to see what will become of the gen V metagame.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
OMG Hydration Vaporeon!!!!!!!
Craziest thing after Blaziken going to Uber,I <3 Dream World.
On March 31 2011 22:29 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 22:26 Asshat wrote:On March 31 2011 22:22 Ferrose wrote:On March 31 2011 22:20 Asshat wrote: Blaziken is overrated, yeah yeah hits hard is fast etc, but guess what so does the majority of the metagame, plus his main attacks have massive recoil potential. Something as simple as switching in a ghost/using protect on a predicted hi jump kick will cripple him. He also has paper defenses when strong priority moves are everywhere.
Smogon just bans shit arbitrarily. Some of the people in high places there are truly idiotic, it's kinda sad because people will listen to it as it's the "teamliquid" of pokemon, I suppose each community deserves its own hub website. Or dozens of people vote on it. And it's not like these votes never happen after much testing and analysis of usage statistics. Very arbitrary, I'd say.  Plus, no one is forcing you to use Smogon's rules anyway. So there's no point in complaining. You play in your court, we'll play in ours.  Smogon's rules are forced on everyone who plays the game in a semi-controlled level, you should know that. The people who vote on those things can be anywhere from "pokemon online superstars" from randoms that wrote a good article on the website once, hardly a good gauge of their competence. Though it's not really surprising, they did the same to garchomp and salamence in gen 4, speed boost blaziken is just a worse version of those. Life goes on I think it'll get unbanned eventually, don't worry. The game hasn't even been out for a month. We still have to see what will become of the gen V metagame.
sounds extremely familiar here on TL. :p
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 21:35 ScarletKnight wrote: Not yet. Smogon is still going through the game, but the tiers should be out soon, hopefully.
They did recently ban Blaziken to Ubers though. why Blaziken?
they gave speed boost to an already powerful champion lol. after a couple turns you outspeed everything and you dont even need choice scarf. Imagine if yanmega didnt get shit on by everything and had as high atk as blaziken, yea thats what happened
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:34 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 04:22 Brees wrote: No one likes that mode, GF is just retarded
Im not sure where I would go to do 6v6s though so its pretty much all I can do.
Besides, I have seen some legit people on there that are actually good, all their movesets are pretty much ready for anything and fairly clever.
Saw one dude with 2k wins running
liepard @ normal gem unburden
fakeout swagger foul play ???
pretty nifty set. With people runnnig these sets, I dont understand why people dont run hard hitting physical tanks as leads. Standard hippowdon seems like he would laugh at all this stuff.' Anyway, I ran a lead sashed sableye with taunt/WoW/foul play/shadow sneak. Probably the best WoW user I have come across.
and yea hippowdown is pretty good if you breed it to get slack off, wayyyyy better sandstorm setup then tyranitar since everyone has fighting attacks.
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So how do you get stuff from dreamworld
I Am building a team with a Vaporeon in it already but how would i get a Hydration Vaporeon
dont know what kind of team i should have, dont do to much battling, ATM my strongest pokemon is a Hydreigon with dark pulse, currently Breeding a ton of Jolly "outrage" Gibles and thinking of doing my first EV trained pokemon
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I just got it, seems fun. I'm playing on a 3ds, here's my friend code. 2664-2127-9016
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On April 01 2011 02:36 Dark-Storm wrote: So how do you get stuff from dreamworld
I Am building a team with a Vaporeon in it already but how would i get a Hydration Vaporeon
dont know what kind of team i should have, dont do to much battling, ATM my strongest pokemon is a Hydreigon with dark pulse, currently Breeding a ton of Jolly "outrage" Gibles and thinking of doing my first EV trained pokemon
The pgl isnt up right now ( http://www.pokemon-gl.com/pre/en.html ) so no dream world yet unless you play on a jap version
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:30 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 17:25 flamewheel wrote: Every time I see this thread it makes me really, really want to play this game... >.> Do it! When was the last time you played pokemen? Er I still occasionally do contests in Ruby. My problem with Pokemon is that I actually have to catch them all. Thankfully I stopped after gen3.
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Fuck im addicted to GTS trade negotions. So many europeans...
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On April 01 2011 03:20 ReketSomething wrote: Fuck im addicted to GTS trade negotions. So many europeans... Some people want retarded trades. i.e i saw someone had a Dieno and wanted a lvl 100 Mewtwo
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On April 01 2011 03:37 Dark-Storm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2011 03:20 ReketSomething wrote: Fuck im addicted to GTS trade negotions. So many europeans... Some people want retarded trades. i.e i saw someone had a Dieno and wanted a lvl 100 Mewtwo
Thats GTS trade not trade negotiations. Trade negotiations is legit.
If you guys havent tried it, I highly recommend doing so.
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On April 01 2011 03:38 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2011 03:37 Dark-Storm wrote:On April 01 2011 03:20 ReketSomething wrote: Fuck im addicted to GTS trade negotions. So many europeans... Some people want retarded trades. i.e i saw someone had a Dieno and wanted a lvl 100 Mewtwo Thats GTS trade not trade negotiations. Trade negotiations is legit. If you guys havent tried it, I highly recommend doing so.
Woh it's nice :D
Edit : Edit : Ah ok i understood the concept ^^
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