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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 09 2011 22:55 GMT
#621
On March 10 2011 05:33 teh_longinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 02:39 Insanious wrote:
Man catching dittos in this game makes me sad... Such a high level makes them much more difficult to mass catch


Why would you MASS catch them? Aren't they only good for breeding, and don't you only need one? :S


Huge response about breeding below... can read if you want to, but it will let you know why I am irritated over the ditto's being a higher level.

+ Show Spoiler +
one of the easiest ways to IV breed pokemon for the first 1 - 3 31 IVs is using dittos.

You catch ~40 dittos. On average you will get a 31 IV in 1/6 dittos. This means that in 36 you should get 6 dittos, each with 1 31 IV.

You then try to get a ditto with 31 in each stat.

Then you breed and you breed so the pokemon is kinda like this:

Poke's IVs: X/X/X/X/X/X Ditto's IVs: X/31/X/X/X/X

Breed till you get:

Poke's IVs: X/31/X/X/X/X

Then you breed that poke with a diff ditto:

Poke's IVs: X/31/X/X/X/X Ditto's IVs: X/X/31/X/X/X

Till you get:

Poke's IVs: X/31/31/X/X/X

At this point you can either breed:

Poke's IVs: X/31/31/X/X/X with Poke's IVs: X/31/31/X/X/X

or

Poke's IVs: X/31/31/X/X/X with Ditto's IVs: X/X/X/31/X/X

In the first case, you try to get the parents to pass on both of the 31's and then hope for a random 31

In the second case you hope for the egg to get all 3 31s from the parents.

This makes it easier to start IV training... so that you can get say a gastly with X/X/X/31/31/31 and then try to breed for def and HP. For a gastly with 31/X/31/31/31/31.

- - - - - -

As well, before hand you need to breed in the nature of the pokemon. As such, you will also get ditto's that have the right nature. Say Timid.

Then you will breed:

Poke's IVs: X/X/X/X/X/X with Timid Ditto: X/X/X/X/X/31

To get

Timid Poke: X/X/X/X/X/31

- - - - - - -

Now for those that don't want to be breeding for ever, I would recommend simply breeding till you get a pokemon with:

The correct nature
31 HP
31 Speed

This is because:

1) a 10% boost and a 10% decrease for a stat matter more than a perfect 31 stat
2) not having 31 in HP can lead to being killed when you normally wouldn't.
3) Not having 31 in speed will make you go second to other pokemon that you should go first with or tie with. Speeds are match vs each other and as such it is important to get the max speed you need on each pokemon.

The reason Attacking and Defending IVs are not as important as HP or Speed (still important, but not as important) is because attacking has a scale, you can hit high or low on the damage scale, As such, a change in the attacking or defending IVs will result in a change in the upper and lower bound of the attack, but will not change the average amount of damage your poke does by very much.

- - - - -

Breeding for correct nature and 31 HP and Speed really only takes a few hours once you get going and start hatching 5 eggs at a time .


So ya .
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
March 09 2011 23:01 GMT
#622
ugh just watched the most corny encounter i've ever seen in a pokemon game.

+ Show Spoiler +
the dad actually came to tell her to come back? -.-
There is no one like you in the universe.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 09 2011 23:06 GMT
#623
On March 10 2011 08:01 Blisse wrote:
ugh just watched the most corny encounter i've ever seen in a pokemon game.

+ Show Spoiler +
the dad actually came to tell her to come back? -.-


+ Show Spoiler +
Bianca

Jk. Screw her. I wish that she had gone home. Though the free experience from kicking her (and Cheren's) ass over and over again is quite nice.
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TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
March 09 2011 23:14 GMT
#624
On March 10 2011 08:01 Blisse wrote:
ugh just watched the most corny encounter i've ever seen in a pokemon game.

+ Show Spoiler +
the dad actually came to tell her to come back? -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
At least it's decently realistic.
I ALWAYS wondered why NO parent has a problem with their pre-teen child living alone, without a home, and being funded by animal fighting across the world.
NEVER has anyone challenged it.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 09 2011 23:16 GMT
#625
On March 10 2011 08:14 TALegion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 08:01 Blisse wrote:
ugh just watched the most corny encounter i've ever seen in a pokemon game.

+ Show Spoiler +
the dad actually came to tell her to come back? -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
At least it's decently realistic.
I ALWAYS wondered why NO parent has a problem with their pre-teen child living alone, without a home, and being funded by animal fighting across the world.
NEVER has anyone challenged it.


Did you ever notice how little the main character's mom cares about shit? Like in the beginning. You totally wreck your room with an irresponsible Pokemon battle. And everyone is like "I promise we'll clean it up!" and the mom is like "Oh, don't worry about it! You were just being kids!" or something like that.

I mean, WTF. : /
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 23:21:37
March 09 2011 23:21 GMT
#626
if everyone's mom was like that, i just wonder what the world would be like
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 23:38:04
March 09 2011 23:23 GMT
#627
I'm prepping a celebi I'm sending over to my black version and it has Modest nature, upper 20 IVs in everything except defense, with a 27 IV on special attack, I'll take it lol. Only took like 5 resets.

I need to get a master ball so I can maximize the nature and IV for this victini lol....
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
March 09 2011 23:40 GMT
#628
How do you send pokemon over from SS/HG? I don't get how you can do that, seeing as they take the new cartridges (instead of when you could just stick the GBA card in, and do Pal Park).
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 09 2011 23:42 GMT
#629
On March 10 2011 08:40 TALegion wrote:
How do you send pokemon over from SS/HG? I don't get how you can do that, seeing as they take the new cartridges (instead of when you could just stick the GBA card in, and do Pal Park).


Apparently there's some new Pal Park thing just for D/P/Pt/HG/SS
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adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 09 2011 23:46 GMT
#630
the ones i sent over were using the pokemon relocator. It's so I could get a level 10 zorua early on.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Tercotta
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada402 Posts
March 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#631
On March 10 2011 08:40 TALegion wrote:
How do you send pokemon over from SS/HG? I don't get how you can do that, seeing as they take the new cartridges (instead of when you could just stick the GBA card in, and do Pal Park).

You need a second DS.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 00:37:24
March 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#632
On March 10 2011 06:57 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 04:37 SaetZero wrote:
On March 09 2011 22:40 Jayme wrote:
On March 09 2011 22:09 Ferrose wrote:
On March 09 2011 18:33 Jayme wrote:
On March 09 2011 18:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 09 2011 18:28 Jayme wrote:
On March 09 2011 18:25 Torte de Lini wrote:
I have a fully trained EV trained and near perfect shiny IV caught Ditto.
Guess how many hours on my Pearl that took.

It's ungodly how strong it is.

On March 09 2011 18:24 ReketSomething wrote:
On March 09 2011 18:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
I oblige all my pokemon to mate with Shamu for good luck.

[image loading]


Shamu, also known as: "He's coming", "I Get the Top Bunk" and "The Blue Massive Wanker"


what if the pokemon doesn't like each other?


They will learn to love.
They must, for the sake of us all.
LEARN!


How many encounters did it take?

Shiny Timid Ralts - 72401 Encounters

Shiny Heatran - 26304 Encounters

Shiny Rayquaza - 12 Encounter -.-

I will never shiny hunt again. It becomes so...I can't even describe it.


No idea. I stopped counting. My high-school was one hell of a hole with all the time I spent playing Pokemon. Like I said before: 999:59 and about 550 hours in total on Pearl/Plat.


Fair enough. I only counted for the sake of it because you know...I like to know how far I've fallen

NU/UU is where it's at. Tired of seeing the same old Tyranitar? Go to UU where your favorite Pokemon (which will generally be UU/NU) actually has a chance at competiting!

Unless it's REALLY REALLY BAD. Like...Beedrill. Then I have no help for you.

Even Pidgeot can shine there though. I play UU/NU far more than I play OU.


UU/NU is fun, but I always have a hard time finding games. I'm gonna try to EV train and stuff a team for the first time, but leveling is gonna be a bitch in this game after you outlevel the zones due to scaled experience >.>


Well you always have the elite four for leveling purposes. You can reset the game right after it saves, rinse and repeat. Elite Four second round are all in the middle 70's.

Of course the last 10 levels are going to suck a lot of dick. I'll probably buy a bunch of Rare Candies through the battle frontier, make a ton of shitty pidgey hold them and then pal park transfer them. I'm going to have to transfer over my EV training hold items and a few of my Pokerus infected pokemon as well. Ugh so much to do.

As much of a pain in the ass as that is it's probably better than grinding. I have over 1k BP anyway so it's probably the best way to go about it.



you say your gonna pal park transfer rare candies on pidgeys, so i assume from a HGSS/DPPT era game?

better double check, i thought i read you can transfer pokemons, but they couldnt hold items

i would make sure before you do, pretty sure i saw that in the manual, but i was just skimming


That would be..odd.

Gen 3->Gen 4 definitely retained held items.

I assumed this would be the same in Gen 5. If not, well damn.

Low and behold I check my manual and find you are correct. That is SLIGHTLY irritating -.-

Edit: I REALLY miss L=A function, why the fuck was this removed?

Maybe it's cuz TMs last forever in this gen. Trade over EQ / Tbolt / IceBeam etc. when youre lvl 25 would be super hax.

EDIT: This cave with boldores is so goddamn annoying...
:)
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 00:47:46
March 10 2011 00:41 GMT
#633
augh 2 boxes full of compoundeyes joltiks and not a single timid/modest

TONS of adamant though. maybe i should have gone for tynamo instead

edit: ZOMG yes modest <3
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
March 10 2011 00:53 GMT
#634
On March 10 2011 09:41 Kyuukyuu wrote:
augh 2 boxes full of compoundeyes joltiks and not a single timid/modest

TONS of adamant though. maybe i should have gone for tynamo instead

edit: ZOMG yes modest <3


Is it bad that I'm almost done the storyline in white and have no idea what this post means/is referring to at all?

Arise, chicken sandwich.
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
March 10 2011 00:54 GMT
#635
On March 10 2011 09:19 synapse wrote:

EDIT: This cave with boldores is so goddamn annoying...

This thing is the new Zubat.
Sturdy = Most ANNOYING ABILITY to have on wild pokemon.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 10 2011 00:56 GMT
#636
On March 10 2011 09:54 TALegion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 09:19 synapse wrote:

EDIT: This cave with boldores is so goddamn annoying...

This thing is the new Zubat.
Sturdy = Most ANNOYING ABILITY to have on wild pokemon.

woobat = new zubat
boldores = new gravler

sturdy = annoying on wild pokes, but good on your pokes :p
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dgReborn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States453 Posts
March 10 2011 00:57 GMT
#637
it's min maxing jester. If you don't get it don't worry, a good 90% of the playerbase for pokemon don't.

I'm honestly regretting taking Tepig. There are a lot of good fire alternatives, Volcarona stands out the most in my book, but not that many great grass alts. Serperior is prolly the best grass type in this set excluding legendarys...
I have no enemies, But i'm intensely disliked by my friends.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
March 10 2011 01:03 GMT
#638
On March 10 2011 09:57 dgReborn wrote:
it's min maxing jester. If you don't get it don't worry, a good 90% of the playerbase for pokemon don't.

I'm honestly regretting taking Tepig. There are a lot of good fire alternatives, Volcarona stands out the most in my book, but not that many great grass alts. Serperior is prolly the best grass type in this set excluding legendarys...

It's even worse when you look at water alternatives if you decided not to take the water starter.
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dgReborn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States453 Posts
March 10 2011 01:08 GMT
#639
On March 10 2011 10:03 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 09:57 dgReborn wrote:
it's min maxing jester. If you don't get it don't worry, a good 90% of the playerbase for pokemon don't.

I'm honestly regretting taking Tepig. There are a lot of good fire alternatives, Volcarona stands out the most in my book, but not that many great grass alts. Serperior is prolly the best grass type in this set excluding legendarys...

It's even worse when you look at water alternatives if you decided not to take the water starter.


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellll

+ Show Spoiler +
You do get a magikarp for 500$ at the end of the bridge. So theres always that, I always did love Gyarados. But yeh, Emboar is nasty and all but I just can't see it being worth it with the lack of any alt for the other 2 types. I can get by without a water for the most part, but I have alot of trouble without a good grass.
I have no enemies, But i'm intensely disliked by my friends.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 10 2011 01:10 GMT
#640
On March 10 2011 09:53 jester- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 09:41 Kyuukyuu wrote:
augh 2 boxes full of compoundeyes joltiks and not a single timid/modest

TONS of adamant though. maybe i should have gone for tynamo instead

edit: ZOMG yes modest <3


Is it bad that I'm almost done the storyline in white and have no idea what this post means/is referring to at all?



Natures. Specifically I was looking for -Atk +SpAtk or -Atk +Speed natures. They give -10% and +10% to different stats and have the best Significance : Annoyingness to get ratio of all the advanced Pokemon things

Also @harm I've decided to not use any water. gg so pro
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