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SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
July 04 2010 09:32 GMT
#201
Fire/Flying is not a curse. Charizard has 5 resistances and 1 immunity (resists Fighting and immune to Ground); pure Fire type has 5 resistances and no immunities (resists Ice). In my opinion, immunities are far more useful then resistances. An immunity, especially an immunity to a common type such as Ground, attacks Charizard to be switched in more easily (you just need to anticipate a Ground-attack then switch Charizard in - Charizard will not be hurt due to immunity). The only thing that is bad for Charizard is his 4x weakness to Rock. If you have competitive battling in mind, then this is deadly because 4x weakness to Rock implies 50% HP loss from Stealth Rock when switching in. On the other hand Charizard is immune to all other entry hazards because it's part flying.

Overall I think it's a fair trade-off.


If only Moltres didn't outclass Charizard in every way... minus maybe belly drum.

Which your Charizard the first play through wouldn't have.

So....... ?? :D ??
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 05 2010 00:19 GMT
#202
On July 04 2010 18:32 SaetZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
Fire/Flying is not a curse. Charizard has 5 resistances and 1 immunity (resists Fighting and immune to Ground); pure Fire type has 5 resistances and no immunities (resists Ice). In my opinion, immunities are far more useful then resistances. An immunity, especially an immunity to a common type such as Ground, attacks Charizard to be switched in more easily (you just need to anticipate a Ground-attack then switch Charizard in - Charizard will not be hurt due to immunity). The only thing that is bad for Charizard is his 4x weakness to Rock. If you have competitive battling in mind, then this is deadly because 4x weakness to Rock implies 50% HP loss from Stealth Rock when switching in. On the other hand Charizard is immune to all other entry hazards because it's part flying.

Overall I think it's a fair trade-off.


If only Moltres didn't outclass Charizard in every way... minus maybe belly drum.

Which your Charizard the first play through wouldn't have.

So....... ?? :D ??


O yes, Moltres....But you don't get to catch Moltres in most games until very late; by the time you can meet it, you probably already have a solid team.

I guess I am biased. When I play against the environment I never use legendaries.

+ Show Spoiler +
Well, except that I use Lugia as a TM slave.
:]
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
July 10 2010 12:18 GMT
#203
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/pokemon-black-white-teaser/346932?playlist=featured

Probably the best gameplay video I've seen yet.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 10 2010 15:53 GMT
#204
On July 10 2010 21:18 genwar wrote:
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/pokemon-black-white-teaser/346932?playlist=featured

Probably the best gameplay video I've seen yet.


near the end of the trailer...
you can steal other people's pokemon now?
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
July 10 2010 16:50 GMT
#205
I think it was a trade actually or because that HUMAN sprite turned into a pokemon a kidnapping?
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 10 2010 16:55 GMT
#206
They need to use the original 3 starter Pokemon instead of this new shit.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
July 10 2010 17:18 GMT
#207
Gotta Catch 'Em All
I pwn noobs
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
September 16 2010 19:46 GMT
#208
It's been a while since I've posted here, but the full pokedex for Black/White has been revealed.

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

156 new pokemon
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Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 16 2010 20:01 GMT
#209
o The Grass Starter, Tsutaja (ツタージャ) is the Grass Snake Pokémon
o The Fire Starter, Pokabu (ポカブ)is the Fire Pig Pokémon
o The Water Starter, Mijumaru (ミジュマル) is the Sea Otter Pokémon

A snake with arms.
Fire pig looks kind of like spoink? (psychic pig) because of the tail.
Buizel?

The starters aren't very innovative, Platinum may be my last pokemon.
TimeToPractice!
Profile Joined January 2010
United States105 Posts
September 16 2010 20:18 GMT
#210
First impressions:


[image loading]- Jaroda (Grass starter) has weak ATK and S.ATK, this is disappointing considering I found Jaroda the most attractive looking starter.

[image loading]- Emboar (Fire starter) is probably the best for beating the game. His ATK and HP dwarf the other two starters. The fire + fight type is a good combination as it covers a lot of resistances and doesn't leave open any deadly X4 modifiers.

[image loading]- Gigaiasu is certainly a physical tank. If only his special defense was a tad higher I think he'd see some competitive use. Don't ever expect him to attack first with base speed 25. However, but the purposes of beating the game this guy seems very valuable as a tank because the AI isn't smart enough to switch and sweep on you.

[image loading]- Warubiaru could be a decent physical sweeper option with his decently high attack and speed. There's definitely better physical sweepers in previous generations (Hello, Scizor and Salamence!) but you have to work with what's available.

[image loading] - Hihidaruma another physical sweeper option with the interesting fire type. I actually like Hihidaruma as a possible team opener due to the metagame in Platinum, but of course that'll probably all change with the new pokemon being released. (Most people opened with a steel type, any fire opener countered that)

-[image loading]- Desukan is a very interesting tank. He's ghost type, and there hasn't really been any ghost tanks yet. He has very high physical defense and somewhat high special defense - and of course being ghost type means he's defensive against many types of attacks.

[image loading]- Aakeosu is perhaps the single best non-legendary new Pokemon in the fifth generation. He's fast and has a ridiculously high ATK as well as a pretty nice S.ATK which makes him incredibly versatile to anything your opponent brings in. Rock and flying type is a VERY good combo, a lot of their weaknesses cancel each other out. EV train this Pokemon for speed and ATK. His defenses aren't great, but is there a sweeper whose are?

[image loading]- Zoroark has the same type of stat build as Aakeosu, but to a lesser extent. Would do absolutely fine as your main sweeper if you're not playing competitively. As a competitive battler, if you're dying for a dark type on your team to take out ghosts, Zoroark fits that mold.

[image loading]- Shubarugo could be alright, really depends on what moveset he ends up with. Has over 100 DEF and S.DEF as well as a high attack stat. Very slow speed though.

[image loading] - Mamanbou will have very high HP. Outside of that, pretty useless. Use Mamanbou if you like HP. I wouldn't recommend this pokemon though, it's defenses are too low to be a tank.

[image loading] - Nattorei is a solid tank type. decent HP, very high DEF and pretty high SDEF. Has enough ATK to actually fight back too. Would make a good tank for someone's team.

[image loading]- Shanderaa has very high S.ATK. Would make a good sweeper if it had just a bit higher speed. Ghost/fire combo is interesting, though.

[image loading]- Ononokusu is a great physical sweeper. Super high ATK and good speed. Pretty low defenses for a dragon type though. though, it looks awesome. :3

[image loading]- Agirudaa is super fast, one of the fastest out of any generation. Could be a good opener for a baton pass team, but he also has passable S.ATK. Depending on his moveset you could really take advantage of those two stats.

[image loading]- Kojondo is another physical sweeper option, though not as good as some of the others I've already spoken of. Also just way too feeble in defense to take any kind of hit.

[image loading]- Sazando very good dual sweeper with ATK, S.ATK and SPD. Also has surprisingly high defenses for being a dual sweeper. Probably the most well-rounded Pokemon, I would highly suggest using Sazando.

[image loading] -Urugamosu is a solid S.ATK sweeper. There's been a lack of S.ATK sweepers in generation 5 so far, and Urugamosu is by no means amazing at it, but passable.


The rest are legendaries I do believe. That doesn't mean that they'll all be prohibited from competitive battling though. many legendaries are indeed tournament legal. Any pokemon I did not mention seemed pretty marginal to me, wouldn't be of much use in competition.
425-298 cumulative record in the beta. 49-26 record in retail. Account: Practice
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 16 2010 20:28 GMT
#211
catch 565
name it Gamera
win game
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 21:03:41
September 16 2010 20:59 GMT
#212
On September 17 2010 05:28 arb wrote:
catch 565
name it Gamera
win game

i actually like how 565 looks like
also FUCK YEA BUG LEGENDARY :OOOOOOOOOO
now i realize most pokemon now look like digimon
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 02:21:26
September 17 2010 02:19 GMT
#213
[image loading]- Zoroark has the same type of stat build as Aakeosu, but to a lesser extent. Would do absolutely fine as your main sweeper if you're not playing competitively. As a competitive battler, if you're dying for a dark type on your team to take out ghosts, Zoroark fits that mold.


Zoroak is also supposed to learn "illusion" which may be competitive, if it's like an instantaneous transform that steals the opponent's stats.

I posted in this thread on page 5, and then again earlier on this page. I was really hoping for pokemon in a different genre.

I didn't like platinum too much. I played with the handicap of max base stat = 350 so that made it interesting for me, but I would've found the playthrough rather boring were it not for that.

edit: A lot of the things that people have already mentioned about platinum have really pissed me off. Hope Pokemon W/B fails and they go a new direction after this.
Lord_of_Chaos
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden372 Posts
September 17 2010 19:28 GMT
#214
The pokemon look more and more ugly for every generation
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
September 17 2010 19:34 GMT
#215
On September 18 2010 04:28 Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
The pokemon look more and more ugly for every generation


I actually think this is the best looking generation since Silver/Gold.

Not that such a thing is a great accomplishment.
444 444 444 444
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
September 17 2010 19:58 GMT
#216
On September 18 2010 04:28 Lord_of_Chaos wrote:
The pokemon look more and more ugly for every generation


[image loading]

Tho I don't agree with the example given I do agree with the statement.

I love all the new type combinations. Ice/Dragon Fire/Dragon Elec/Dragon Bug/Fire etc.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
September 17 2010 20:16 GMT
#217
no im sure the pokemon are indeed getting uglier since the first two gens pokemon still looks good
fuck lag
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
September 17 2010 21:37 GMT
#218
the names are getting weirder and weierder
BW is back
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 18 2010 17:18 GMT
#219
I'm getting the grass-monkey for sure :D
(If anyone wants to try out the black/white japanese ROMs just PM me)
:)
fluxus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 19 2010 17:40 GMT
#220
On September 18 2010 06:37 Jackal03 wrote:
the names are getting weirder and weierder

That's because they're in Japanese. |:
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