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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 05 2010 19:49 GMT
#5561
On June 06 2010 04:44 pokeyAA wrote:
Whew, my smurf just played against an enemy Pantheon named Awesomesaur who kept one-shotting my team. (I know what people feel like now playing against Mog lol)

It was Me (gragas) yi, ashe, heim, nidalee against Janna, Pantheon, Zilean, TF, Fiddle

Their Janna/Pantheon lane straight up owned early game. Pushed us mid, and got us to last towers. But I told my team to turtle, and we turtled our way back to a comeback win! Good thing their pantheon fucked up late game, and got like brutalizer, boots, and 4 bloodthirsters. No HP ftw!
He went up like 24 kills/12 deaths/? assists and still lost haha.


Silly Pan. Melee DPS can't go purely DPS, like ranged DPS. But even as ranged DPS, I'd highly recommend (if not demand) a Banshee. Spell block and increased MR is a must for carries. This is even more vital for melee DPS. Banshee + Randuin would've helped that Pan a ton. Spell block, +MR, +HP and AOE slow. Wat a scrub. If your team was any less coordinated though, Zilean ulti and Janna shield/monsoon should have been enough to keep that Pan alive imo.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 05 2010 19:52 GMT
#5562
On June 06 2010 04:45 Balzy wrote:
so as you all know, Ryze has become available for temporary use this last patch. This is the frst time i've been able to try him out and i just love him. I used to play morgana (was temp also, yeah i just started LoL ) but feel i like Ryze more. stun isnt skill shot, ult costs no mana, etc

Now after doing a bit of reading about him apparently there was a nerf to his flux that removed some magic pen debuff or something? I just wanted to ask the community whether or not i should waste my points on him if he just gets rolled at higher levels (im only lvl 9).

Can a current or former high level Ryze player lend me some advice?


Ryze is fun but has very little staying power compared to some of the other casters, especially at higher elo games. If you want to just grind for levels/IP as a caster, I'd highly suggest Annie. She has the best caster burst in the game. Level 6, save up stun. Flash in, Ignite, Tibbers, W, Q. That's typically enough to score you first blood.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 19:56:50
June 05 2010 19:54 GMT
#5563
On June 06 2010 04:45 Balzy wrote:
so as you all know, Ryze has become available for temporary use this last patch. This is the frst time i've been able to try him out and i just love him. I used to play morgana (was temp also, yeah i just started LoL ) but feel i like Ryze more. stun isnt skill shot, ult costs no mana, etc

Now after doing a bit of reading about him apparently there was a nerf to his flux that removed some magic pen debuff or something? I just wanted to ask the community whether or not i should waste my points on him if he just gets rolled at higher levels (im only lvl 9).

Can a current or former high level Ryze player lend me some advice?

I don't play Ryze, but I'm pretty sure he isn't a terrible champion at high level play- if you like his playstyle, go ahead and buy him. LoL is well balanced enough that you'll rarely come across a champion who is simply outclassed (like Evelynn).
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 20:24:50
June 05 2010 19:54 GMT
#5564
On June 06 2010 03:48 Gokey wrote:
Fucking bullshit busy call today... So tired. Want to play LoL instead, amirite.

Solo, whatever new character u playing, better be good, don't want to babysit ur ass even more than usual lol.


Still just going to farm EZ with TF.

On June 06 2010 04:54 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 04:45 Balzy wrote:
so as you all know, Ryze has become available for temporary use this last patch. This is the frst time i've been able to try him out and i just love him. I used to play morgana (was temp also, yeah i just started LoL ) but feel i like Ryze more. stun isnt skill shot, ult costs no mana, etc

Now after doing a bit of reading about him apparently there was a nerf to his flux that removed some magic pen debuff or something? I just wanted to ask the community whether or not i should waste my points on him if he just gets rolled at higher levels (im only lvl 9).

Can a current or former high level Ryze player lend me some advice?

I don't play Ryze, but I'm pretty sure he isn't a terrible champion at high level play- if you like his playstyle, go ahead and buy him. LoL is well balanced enough that you'll rarely come across a champion who is simply outclassed (like Evelynn).


I think you mean locket udyr.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 05 2010 20:45 GMT
#5565
Udyr is quickly becoming like Jax for me... When I am playing any squishy, the sight of an Udyr or Jax barreling out of the bushes make me poop a little.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
June 05 2010 20:49 GMT
#5566
On Ryze:

He's a tier 2 burster. Since bursters are not as important as carries/tanks, or even as a good support (Janna, Soraka) he doesn't add a ton to a team.

CD/pen tends to be better than AP. If you're good, you can get a mejai and gank your way to some AP (and then add Zhonya's). His Q scales with mana -- archangel is pretty solid on him. That said, I consider his core item to be glacial shroud, as it adds both mana and CD. Because his passive is a flat CD bonus, -CD% is great. I haven't played him in a while, however -- some of the new items may be great on him.

His skill order in a battle is complex because of his passive. As I recall the best order is QRWE, because that lets you get off two Qs under ult, which hurts.

His e is a great harass tool. Watch positioning carefully, and try to get good bounces. It should be your first skill, and your first skill maxed. I usually played R > E > W >Q, opening E Q E W.

His E can bounce off himself. If an enemy champ is alone and low enough, you can flash onto them, prison them, then bounce the thing between you 3 times for a bunch of damage. This is the most common tactic you'll see on Ryze.
Balzy
Profile Joined August 2008
United States113 Posts
June 05 2010 20:49 GMT
#5567
On June 06 2010 04:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 04:45 Balzy wrote:
so as you all know, Ryze has become available for temporary use this last patch. This is the frst time i've been able to try him out and i just love him. I used to play morgana (was temp also, yeah i just started LoL ) but feel i like Ryze more. stun isnt skill shot, ult costs no mana, etc

Now after doing a bit of reading about him apparently there was a nerf to his flux that removed some magic pen debuff or something? I just wanted to ask the community whether or not i should waste my points on him if he just gets rolled at higher levels (im only lvl 9).

Can a current or former high level Ryze player lend me some advice?


Ryze is fun but has very little staying power compared to some of the other casters, especially at higher elo games. If you want to just grind for levels/IP as a caster, I'd highly suggest Annie. She has the best caster burst in the game. Level 6, save up stun. Flash in, Ignite, Tibbers, W, Q. That's typically enough to score you first blood.


would it be the same AP build for Annie? I've never tried her before : \. Also, is her golem able to be commanded, as opposed to being summoned and just whacking the closest thing?
In short, I pissed in Gods eye... and he blinked. - Dr. Thaddeus Venture
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 20:54:27
June 05 2010 20:54 GMT
#5568
On June 06 2010 05:49 Balzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 04:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 06 2010 04:45 Balzy wrote:
so as you all know, Ryze has become available for temporary use this last patch. This is the frst time i've been able to try him out and i just love him. I used to play morgana (was temp also, yeah i just started LoL ) but feel i like Ryze more. stun isnt skill shot, ult costs no mana, etc

Now after doing a bit of reading about him apparently there was a nerf to his flux that removed some magic pen debuff or something? I just wanted to ask the community whether or not i should waste my points on him if he just gets rolled at higher levels (im only lvl 9).

Can a current or former high level Ryze player lend me some advice?


Ryze is fun but has very little staying power compared to some of the other casters, especially at higher elo games. If you want to just grind for levels/IP as a caster, I'd highly suggest Annie. She has the best caster burst in the game. Level 6, save up stun. Flash in, Ignite, Tibbers, W, Q. That's typically enough to score you first blood.


would it be the same AP build for Annie? I've never tried her before : \. Also, is her golem able to be commanded, as opposed to being summoned and just whacking the closest thing?

Yeah, you can click on Tibbers and give it commands.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
June 05 2010 20:54 GMT
#5569
On June 06 2010 05:49 Balzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 04:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 06 2010 04:45 Balzy wrote:
so as you all know, Ryze has become available for temporary use this last patch. This is the frst time i've been able to try him out and i just love him. I used to play morgana (was temp also, yeah i just started LoL ) but feel i like Ryze more. stun isnt skill shot, ult costs no mana, etc

Now after doing a bit of reading about him apparently there was a nerf to his flux that removed some magic pen debuff or something? I just wanted to ask the community whether or not i should waste my points on him if he just gets rolled at higher levels (im only lvl 9).

Can a current or former high level Ryze player lend me some advice?


Ryze is fun but has very little staying power compared to some of the other casters, especially at higher elo games. If you want to just grind for levels/IP as a caster, I'd highly suggest Annie. She has the best caster burst in the game. Level 6, save up stun. Flash in, Ignite, Tibbers, W, Q. That's typically enough to score you first blood.


would it be the same AP build for Annie? I've never tried her before : \. Also, is her golem able to be commanded, as opposed to being summoned and just whacking the closest thing?


AP on Annie is pretty standard. Her bear Tibbers is controlled with alt-click. Basically you open either Mejai or RoA and go from there.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 05 2010 22:54 GMT
#5570
By the way if people want me to link streams in the first post I can do so. And if I've missed anyone's names in the playerlist please either re-mention or pm me, I try to keep up with the thread but I'm not perfect :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
June 05 2010 22:57 GMT
#5571
I'm just finally getting around to downloading this after hearing some good stuff... Does anyone feel like showing me the ropes, I'm gonna try it out today.. then if I like it, I'll play a bit after the beta goes down.. gotta do something in my free time =)
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 05 2010 23:03 GMT
#5572
On June 06 2010 07:54 Southlight wrote:
By the way if people want me to link streams in the first post I can do so. And if I've missed anyone's names in the playerlist please either re-mention or pm me, I try to keep up with the thread but I'm not perfect :x

Add me to the list!
ShakeDrizzle
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 23:15:58
June 05 2010 23:15 GMT
#5573
in all honestly if southlight made a new thread for LoL, i think that would be soo much better for activity and organizing events, and would also help a TON of new players feel much much better about starting this game

it would be easy enough to leave a link to the new thread in one of the last posts and tell everyone to move over
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 05 2010 23:24 GMT
#5574
On June 06 2010 08:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:
in all honestly if southlight made a new thread for LoL, i think that would be soo much better for activity and organizing events, and would also help a TON of new players feel much much better about starting this game

it would be easy enough to leave a link to the new thread in one of the last posts and tell everyone to move over


Should I PM a mod about that, or something?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 05 2010 23:26 GMT
#5575
pm psyonic I think. He never posts in this thread so I doubt he would mind if you hijacked it.

You could pm a mod to close this one probably.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 05 2010 23:37 GMT
#5576
Feels good to play an AP TF rather than the old AD/AS TF.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 23:51:08
June 05 2010 23:49 GMT
#5577
you could just this thread die out, no need to PM a mod.
from previous experience:
From: FrozenArbiter [ 28783 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Closing thread.
Date: 3/28/10 10:03
Gonna just let it die by itself, unless it gets bumped a lot ~~ Closing messes with the search etc.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51630 Posts
June 06 2010 00:05 GMT
#5578
oh boy, i think i finally got the hang of ashe's ulti now, i've nabbed like 5 kills just from shooting from my own fountain.
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Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 06 2010 00:07 GMT
#5579
On June 06 2010 09:05 GTR wrote:
oh boy, i think i finally got the hang of ashe's ulti now, i've nabbed like 5 kills just from shooting from my own fountain.


What's your IGN?
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 06 2010 00:09 GMT
#5580
On June 06 2010 09:05 GTR wrote:
oh boy, i think i finally got the hang of ashe's ulti now, i've nabbed like 5 kills just from shooting from my own fountain.

Haha yesterday you kept missing them, we still owned though.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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