EPT"Her abilities are:
Passive: A reward for messing up and not saving a teammate
Q: Cool Particle Effects
W: Cool Particle Effects
E: Cool Particle Effects
R: ZOMG GAMECHANGING BUBBLE"
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
"Her abilities are: Passive: A reward for messing up and not saving a teammate Q: Cool Particle Effects W: Cool Particle Effects E: Cool Particle Effects R: ZOMG GAMECHANGING BUBBLE" | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
I mean, she's not a tank, she's support, she's there to make her teammate's better, if you make her ult only self targetable, you have to redesign everything about her as opposed to addressing the real problem which is that her passive and her E are trainwrecks that don't help her fill her role or do much of anything for that matter. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On May 12 2010 04:05 Mogwai wrote: so you're saying take her from a one trick pony to a zero trick pony? good idea! I mean, she's not a tank, she's support, she's there to make her teammate's better, if you make her ult only self targetable, you have to redesign everything about her as opposed to addressing the real problem which is that her passive and her E are trainwrecks that don't help her fill her role or do much of anything for that matter. Hm. I think Riot intended her as tank, not support. Could be wrong, though. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
:D | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
oh wait, they did that one T_T | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On May 12 2010 04:06 oberon wrote: Hm. I think Riot intended her as tank, not support. Could be wrong, though. She's listed as a support hero and I've always seen her as one but maybe that's just me and my newbie ways. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Unfortunately, to make it work she currently has to build a) like a tank so that she can't simply be focused down, b) like DPS to take advantage of it, c) like support because no one cares about DPS or Tank Kayle. Let's see, a nuke/slow with good AP scaling, a weak heal and movespeed buff, a... DPS skill that scales weakly with AP?, and a support ability that is extremely useful or pointless depending on team comp. I would propose increasing the AP scaling on her E (to around 1:1), removing the "on killing an enemy champion" part of her passive, and having her passive buff survivability somewhat. The idea is to build her AP/tanky, so she supports the team, and if she's ignored she turns into a godlike avatar of divine vengeance. (Consider that her passive gives her at most 10% more attackspeed than Tristana if all her allies are dead.) | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On May 12 2010 05:41 dnosrc wrote: just finished an one hour long awesome 4v5 .. took us 20 min to take their base down ... Sounds great. Wish I could log in. | ||
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bellweather
United States404 Posts
On May 12 2010 05:22 HazMat wrote: Wish there was a new nidalee skin. There are a lot but they're pretty bad. I wish skins didn't cost money. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Diaspora
United States140 Posts
Old school dota player, around 420 wins and 350 losses | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
ID: hasuprotoss I plan on queuing with people in Liquid Party this summer since I won't be able to yell at my usual premade people face-to-face. And not being able to give them shit is no fun =[. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
TL;DR: low ELO games cause bad habits. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On May 12 2010 08:20 oberon wrote: I think one of my biggest hangups now is that I have absolutely no faith in my teammates. I never expect Shen to shield me, Zilean to save me, Kayle to bubble me, etc. That makes me somewhat overly cautious, and causes me to be surprised (and react poorly) when these things do happen. TL;DR: low ELO games cause bad habits. I don't even know how ELO works, I thought you only were assigned one when you played as a team. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On May 12 2010 09:35 SnK-Arcbound wrote: I don't even know how ELO works, I thought you only were assigned one when you played as a team. It's the standard ELO system (you can wikipedia it), with slight modifications to work for teams. But that's not really the point. "Playing with bad people causes bad habits" would be just as true. It's hard to learn to trust your team when you play with untrustworthy people. | ||
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