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Game gonna be so easy now though ^_^http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=97989568
Ignore crappy enchant. I'm out of gold ^_^
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
Game gonna be so easy now though ^_^http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=97989568 Ignore crappy enchant. I'm out of gold ^_^ | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
I'm playing an Engineer on Hardcore Elite, using a shield and heal bot. Loving it. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 22 2012 02:47 TheYango wrote: The stat system isn't so straightforward as to allow you to just designate a "main stat" to pump. All of the stats factor into the damage equation, and a lot of it can be dependent on playstyles. In the case of the Outlander, the DPS formula is a complicated mix of Strength and Dexterity, with a splash of Focus if you do significant Elemental damage or dual-wield. Optimizing your DPS requires you to build up all of your stats, not just stack a single DPS stat (in fact, Dex is probably actually the worst of the 3 stats to stack, because while the % damage boost from Strength/Focus scales linear up to the max, Dexterity scales nonlinearly with later points being significantly worse than earlier ones--100 Dex gives you 25% crit chance while it takes you 400 more Dex after that to get another 25% crit chance). I realize now that the initial DPS math-craft I did for the Embermage is less practical than I expected--I overestimated the amount of Weapon DPS-based damage I would be doing (currently the flat burn damage from my fire spells is doing a lot higher portion of my damage than I guessed would be the case), which means that Focus is much more important than I thought it would be (% Weapon DPS spell damage on spells like Magma Spear scales off both Strength and Focus--but spells that deal flat damage only scale off Focus). Ahye, for a dps class as an outlander (well i am going for glasscannon dps build), my plan is to get around 20% crit chance. I am doing mostly 2-2 for str-dex at the moment and adding vit/focus when i needed for gears. I barely touch the elemental damage at all (i just got the lvl1 passive elemental damage) but i'll see when i proceed more to the end if i needed more Focus. While for Vit I think i just need the safe amount of it to not get 1 hit killed by miniboss/boss and for some weapon requirement. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 22 2012 03:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Just gambled a weapon that requires level 37 or 102 str...good thing I have 102 str at level 25 Game gonna be so easy now though ^_^http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=97989568 Ignore crappy enchant. I'm out of gold ^_^ pretty nice :D I am going to do some gambling soon. I am using a 100-250dps cannon with alot nice props, got it from some mission O_O so far i got nothing uber good for my own class. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 22 2012 04:12 BurningSera wrote: pretty nice :D I am going to do some gambling soon. I am using a 100-250dps cannon with alot nice props, got it from some mission O_O so far i got nothing uber good for my own class. Well I gambled one item. There were three greataxes and this was the most expensive one (three different prices). Hope that doesn't guarantee unique because that kinda defeats the purpose of gambling. I could have just gotten lucky I guess, but I don't have the gold to test it out until after I enchant this thing so...could be awhile. Costs 10k for the second enchant  | ||
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Maand
326 Posts
So much fun! RNG loot is also amazing, enchantments and also found out the "crafting" system. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On September 22 2012 00:51 pallad wrote: lol , then play on elite . And if you put every point into vitality , you cant wear items . So stop trolling You can. Items have a stat OR level requirement. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
This game is just so impressive, esp with the $20 pricetag. I just play most of ACT2 with some guys from TL group, was so much fun blasting through, much more fun I used to have when play team game in D3. | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The artificer miniboss looks like mari makinami's eva in berserk mode with the energy tubes sticking out of its back. There are a shitload of references in tl2 so I thought it might not be just a coinsidence. I'm having so much fun with my robo-engi. I usually run around with 3-8 skeletons(spell summons both on me and the pet), am imp summon, the healbot, the gunbot and 3-10 spider mines. I initiate with 1-2 shock grenades for the aoe stun effect while my cannon is blasting away and the spiders are suiciding on the poor mobs. I'm looking forward to adding the last 2 bots in the later levels. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 22 2012 04:40 paralleluniverse wrote: You can. Items have a stat OR level requirement. Yes i know that.. but lv requirement is always like 3-5 more ( then your lv , when you find item) So stats are very important on elite diff this way of playing make no sense , because you need good items fast. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 22 2012 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Well I gambled one item. There were three greataxes and this was the most expensive one (three different prices). Hope that doesn't guarantee unique because that kinda defeats the purpose of gambling. I could have just gotten lucky I guess, but I don't have the gold to test it out until after I enchant this thing so...could be awhile. Costs 10k for the second enchant I met a enchanter who gives MF ^^ spent like 10k+, gambled 7k just now got a nice shotgun so i now i am back to be a shotgonner! rofl i just did another gamble: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=98033201 i am now lvl29 with dex 70 (10stats unspent) and that one requires lvl41 or 114dex | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 22 2012 06:24 pallad wrote: Yes i know that.. but lv requirement is always like 3-5 more ( then your lv , when you find item) So stats are very important on elite diff this way of playing make no sense , because you need good items fast. I'm not sure it actually matters how bad your damage is when you can tank forever. Although I wouldn't consider it an efficient way to play it seems like it would work. You can also use skills that damage based on level instead of weapon damage so that you aren't hindered by lack of good weaponry. Cloud sync conflict...both last modified today ^_^ How can I tell which one I should do? | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Btw I wonder how many HC chars will make it through the luminous arena, rofl! | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On September 22 2012 08:35 DaCruise wrote: I am really starting to struggle with my lvl 40 embermage. Died plenty in late act 2 and act 3 is not any easier. Btw I wonder how many HC chars will make it through the luminous arena, rofl! plenty of engis ^^ btw, iirc you can just focus pillars and mobs will disappear, if you mean folllowing the light thingy | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 22 2012 03:59 kafkaesque wrote: Man that game is fun. I'm playing an Engineer on Hardcore Elite, using a shield and heal bot. Loving it. Cannon Engineer on elite , but not HC  . Engineer is sweet ! <3 | ||
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eluv
United States1251 Posts
Obs 2 is that fast weapons like claws/pistols/bows are essentially useless without a -All armor on hit mod. The TC behind this is that armor in this game is flat reduction, so that at a given DPS, a slow weapon will do more damage than a fast weapon. As a quick example, assume a mob has 50 phys armor, and you have 2, 200 dps weapons. One hits twice per second for 100 damage, and the other hits once per second for 200 damage. In one second, weapon 1 does (100-50)+(100-50)=100 damage, while weapon 2 does (200-50)=150 damage. For the fastest weapons, this means that without -armor, you may end up hitting for very, very small amounts. This is backed up by a dummy test I just did, where I went from using a 163 (.72 a/s) bow to using a 227 DPS (.56s/a) and the initial dummy hits were much, much lower (170 -> ~10). However, (thank god!) the enchanter saw fit to give me a -14 armor/hit mod, and over time the 227 gets up to the same end damage as the 163, both topping out at about 200, but of course the 227 is hitting a lot faster at this point. I assume the topping off means I have the dummy at 0 armor, but I haven't worked the numbers to see if this is the case, or if it bottoms out somewhere above 0. Edit: As a followup, stacks of the -armor seem to fall of independently, so that if you stop shooting something, it will slowly regain its armor, until the most recent application falls off and it is back at full armor. This is very, very good, because it means that losing DPS time on a target won't mean losing your entire stack of -Armor. In addition, I didn't have to do any math at all! Character sheet tells me my top-end is 239, and at full stacks, I hit a 235, so I assume that the -armor takes it all the way down to 0! Followup #2! -%Armor *does not* let you take a target below 0 armor, at least in the 1 data point case of Blade Pact. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 22 2012 08:35 DaCruise wrote: I am really starting to struggle with my lvl 40 embermage. Died plenty in late act 2 and act 3 is not any easier. Btw I wonder how many HC chars will make it through the luminous arena, rofl! That's because some of the act 2 abilities are glitchy. For instance, if you get "Mana vortexed" and then stuck on a unit so it doesn't pull you then you get permanently disabled and just die. These units can also combo vortex you so it's practically impossible to avoid. I don't see how you can survive such a thing as a melee character. | ||
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