EPTNBA 09-10: The Roundball Rock - Page 70
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
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tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
On January 23 2010 15:10 Jibba wrote: "Variety is the spice of life and Derrick Rose does not disappoint" I don't want to be mean because I actually like the guy, but Mark Jackson is not an intelligent person. He's a dumb jock, and nothing he says has any value, ever. Not that I'm a Mark Jackson fan but it is easier to appreciate him if you get NBA season pass and watch local broadcasts of all the NBA teams. Especially in some of the smaller markets, the announcers are truly awful. I actually heard this gem tonight, not 100% sure but I think it was the Oklahoma home team announcers "block me once shame on me, block me twice shame on you" Jackson and Van Gundy are both kinda annoying, seems like they both took over the torch from Bill Walton. But they are both probably near the top in terms of knowledge and analytical ability among all announcers. Sure he says dumb stuff a lot but Mark Jackson as a player had one of the highest basketball IQ's of all time. What he was able to accomplish with his physical tools is a testament to how well he understood the game. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On January 23 2010 15:20 JIJIyO wrote: So uh.........Nets won their 4th game vs GS. They also beat Charlotte.......anyone care to remind me the other two teams they beat? Im really sad about this but... Chicago.  But did you see that dunk by D.Rose though? wooh I dont know what that other phx guard not named steve nash was thinking trying to block D.Rose. | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Besides, I don't enjoy seeing great athletes get injured... | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
anyways that just leaves the reserves out.potential contenders are your usual players like nowitzki,paul,williams,bosh etc.but, i really wanna see some new faces in the all star match like durant,rondo,lee maybe even gallinari. what do you guys think??? | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Rondo is definitely going no doubt. Nowitzki is going also. AI and McGrady are still ridiculously popular and well, thats what the All Star game is based on. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
East: Chris Bosh Rondo Josh Smith Gerald Wallace hmmm rest are borderline + Show Spoiler + C Noah/Hartford/David Lee. PG Mo Williams... anyone else? Not Harris. Not Jameer. Are there any borderline point guards? SG Joe Johnson, Ray Allen or AI2? Maybe Stephen Jackson? SF Luol Deng, Pierce (most deserving non-Rondo Celtic), Gallinari? PF Rashard? Antawne Jamison? God east to west is bad. No pistons players deserve it at all. Not even close. Neither does Indiana, sorry Granger, you're playing terrible | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 23 2010 15:21 tenbagger wrote: Sure he says dumb stuff a lot but Mark Jackson as a player had one of the highest basketball IQ's of all time. What he was able to accomplish with his physical tools is a testament to how well he understood the game. Agreed, but he never actually says any of that. He just makes statements like "Talk about good rebounding, Joakim Noah got another one" that provide zero insight to the game. Two Mike Green's could provide the exact same experience, only sound more intelligent doing it. I hate that the announcing is dumbed down for casual fans. Casual fans don't care about the announcing that much and they're certainly not watching the Friday late night game. We don't need to hear about Grant Hill's past ankle problems every single game or that Derrick Rose played for John Callipari. If you want to make that comparison to Wall or talk about Hill's recovery, then fine, but every single NBA broadcast is just a mash up of broad descriptors and canned lines. ABC's team top to bottom is just bad, with exception to Hubie Brown. I wish TNT had exclusive rights to the NBA, with Steve Kerr in replacement for Reggie Miller. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 23 2010 18:17 igotmyown wrote: East Starters: there are more deserving players than KG and AI. However, the bar is lower. It's not like in the west where Deron caliber players can't even get East: Chris Bosh Rondo Josh Smith Gerald Wallace hmmm rest are borderline + Show Spoiler + C Noah/Hartford/David Lee. PG Mo Williams... anyone else? Not Harris. Not Jameer. Are there any borderline point guards? SG Joe Johnson, Ray Allen or AI2? Maybe Stephen Jackson? SF Luol Deng, Pierce (most deserving non-Rondo Celtic), Gallinari? PF Rashard? Antawne Jamison? God east to west is bad. No pistons players deserve it at all. Not even close. Neither does Indiana, sorry Granger, you're playing terrible If Lee doesn't make it, I'm going to start a million white man march on Washington. The fact that he's even borderline is ridiculous. Sure, the Knicks are bad but so are the Hornets. He's almost a 20/11 guy, along with 3.5 APG and being a good shooter. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Keep that team on your back you 20/10 monster. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
@Jibba: Agreed about Hubie Brown. He gives so much insight, especially when it comes to player and team defense that he makes the game so enjoyable. | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:23 igotmyown wrote: I'm just saying that I don't think the "his numbers are good because his team sucks" argument works. Watching him, I think he's skilled enough that his numbers are actually worse by being in the Knicks system. He's a 6-9 PF forced to play C, and he still competes against bigger guys. Are you comparing David Lee to Chris Paul? I would take any of my non-borderline picks over David Lee. My borderline category aren't just decent to good players. But I wouldn't compare any of them to Brandon Roy or Chris Bosh. At C, you've got Bosh, Lopez/Lee so he probably isn't getting in there, but he would definitely get in as PF if KG weren't eating up that spot. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/131725-david-lees-lack-of-d-is-all-star-voters-defense Can you imagine if DHoward had developed as much offense as Lee has? I honestly think he could keep up those numbers and improve on D if he played on a different team. People think Lee is just an unathletic tree, but he won the McDonald's slam dunk contest as a highschooler. Watching him now, it looks like he just saves energy because he has to run so much and plays big minutes. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On January 23 2010 20:27 Jibba wrote:If Lee doesn't make it, I'm going to start a million white man march on Washington. The fact that he's even borderline is ridiculous. Sure, the Knicks are bad but so are the Hornets. He's almost a 20/11 guy, along with 3.5 APG and being a good shooter. Not saying that Lee doesn't deserve to be an Allstar, but comparing the Knicks to the Hornets ignores the facts. Not only are the Hornets over .500 (.548 to be exact), but they're playing in the significantly tougher conference. They're 16-9 against their own conference, which only has 4 teams under .500. The Knicks, on the other hand, are a sub-.500 team (.405), and 12-16 against their conference where 8 teams are under .500. And that's all before even getting to the fact that Paul is a significantly better player than Lee. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 24 2010 02:13 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Not saying that Lee doesn't deserve to be an Allstar, but comparing the Knicks to the Hornets ignores the facts. Not only are the Hornets over .500 (.548 to be exact), but they're playing in the significantly tougher conference. They're 16-9 against their own conference, which only has 4 teams under .500. The Knicks, on the other hand, are a sub-.500 team (.405), and 12-16 against their conference where 8 teams are under .500. And that's all before even getting to the fact that Paul is a significantly better player than Lee. Fair enough. I hadn't been following and for some reason I thought the Hornets were doing shitty this year. A better comparison would be with Bosh of years past. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On January 23 2010 20:07 Jibba wrote: Agreed, but he never actually says any of that. He just makes statements like "Talk about good rebounding, Joakim Noah got another one" that provide zero insight to the game. Two Mike Green's could provide the exact same experience, only sound more intelligent doing it. I hate that the announcing is dumbed down for casual fans. Casual fans don't care about the announcing that much and they're certainly not watching the Friday late night game. We don't need to hear about Grant Hill's past ankle problems every single game or that Derrick Rose played for John Callipari. If you want to make that comparison to Wall or talk about Hill's recovery, then fine, but every single NBA broadcast is just a mash up of broad descriptors and canned lines. ABC's team top to bottom is just bad, with exception to Hubie Brown. I wish TNT had exclusive rights to the NBA, with Steve Kerr in replacement for Reggie Miller. Agreed that Marc Jackson is terrible as a commentator. No substance, all catchphrases and empty stupidity in his commentary. His basketball IQ, high or not, never comes into play. My favorites are Hubie Brown and Jeff Van Gundy. Hubie gives the most insight and best analysis IMO. Always a teacher, whether as a coach or a commentator. Van Gundy is funny, goofy even, and will often contribute some good analysis during a game as well. I feel that he's trying to make himself more entertaining and sometimes says stupid things as a result, but does a good job overall. | ||
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