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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 04:35:21
April 09 2010 04:04 GMT
#2141
On April 09 2010 11:41 Judicator wrote:
Did any of the changes made in the previous offseason pay off for any team?

Hedo is a bust, Sheed is a bust, Gordon and Villy is a bust, Carter is so-so, Ariza is a bust (but hardly costly), Artest is so-so (but the Lakers match up "better" against Denver). Am I leaving someone out? Prior to this season I felt some teams made some solid moves to get better, but those teams have been pretty underwhelming.

the diesel to cleveland?? jefferson/mcdyess to san antonio??
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
April 09 2010 04:05 GMT
#2142
I'd hardly call jefferson to san antonio a success
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 09 2010 05:22 GMT
#2143
He's an improvement and he does what he's asked. He's not a main scoring option. He's more like 3rd or 4th.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
April 09 2010 06:26 GMT
#2144
4 matches left in regular season.anything can still happen in the west.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#2145
Shawn Marion to the Mavs, Matt Barnes to Orlando, didn't the Hawks get somebody?
Marquis Daniels and Mr. Candace Parker to Boston. There was also the Emeka Okafor for Tyson Chandler trade.

Midseason moves have been pretty so so.
ChezGod
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States590 Posts
April 09 2010 08:54 GMT
#2146
Mavs Heywood/Butler deal for Josh Howard was the biggest steal since Kwame for Gasol
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 09 2010 09:09 GMT
#2147
Butlers below average, the trick was Howard was even worse. mavs didn't exactly dominate after the trade.
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 09:25:52
April 09 2010 09:21 GMT
#2148
judicator you're waaay off

off the top of my head:
artest has been good, crawford's been good, shaq's been good, anthony parker been good, barnes and carter have been good, marion good, randolph been AMAZING, ilyasova good, jarret jack been alright, stephen jackson been good, AARON AFFLALO, channing frye been good, andre miller been good. even people like rasual butler. and that's in a season where multiple rookies have had good seasons

not gonna go into the trade deadline stuff but plenty to like there

edit: forgot ben wallace
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 09 2010 16:18 GMT
#2149
On April 09 2010 18:09 igotmyown wrote:
Butlers below average, the trick was Howard was even worse. mavs didn't exactly dominate after the trade.

That's a joke, right?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 09 2010 16:30 GMT
#2150
On April 09 2010 18:21 x2fst wrote:
judicator you're waaay off

off the top of my head:
artest has been good, crawford's been good, shaq's been good, anthony parker been good, barnes and carter have been good, marion good, randolph been AMAZING, ilyasova good, jarret jack been alright, stephen jackson been good, AARON AFFLALO, channing frye been good, andre miller been good. even people like rasual butler. and that's in a season where multiple rookies have had good seasons

not gonna go into the trade deadline stuff but plenty to like there

edit: forgot ben wallace


I think some of you, especially this guy, is missing my point. Teams that made moves with the intent to compete hasn't panned out well for them in the offseason. The midseason ones aren't so clear yet with the exception of Howard.

And I did forget the Jefferson trade, that's how unmemorable he's been this year. And you don't take on that kind of money for a 3rd or 4th option that's a liability defensively (why do you think Bogans is getting so much playing time?)

Okafor for Chander is pretty even in the average sense.

The others I am not so sure about as I haven't gotten a chance to watch them as much this season.
Get it by your hands...
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 09 2010 23:46 GMT
#2151
On April 10 2010 01:18 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 18:09 igotmyown wrote:
Butlers below average, the trick was Howard was even worse. mavs didn't exactly dominate after the trade.

That's a joke, right?


Is yours?

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/dallas-makes-a-contending-move/

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings
Mavs Margin: +2.17 SOS .502 Mar (25%)+2.65 SOS(25%) .460

Caron Butler 2009-10: .426 fg%
Wizards PER 13.6 Wizards Offensive Rating 101 Defensive Rating 109 WS/48 0.055
Dallas PER 13.9 Offensive Rating 100 Defensive Rating 105 WS/48 0.066
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 10 2010 00:04 GMT
#2152
Didn't the Mavs go on a tear after they got Butler and Heyward over some pretty good teams too?
Get it by your hands...
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 10 2010 02:05 GMT
#2153
Wow, Ben Gordon, you anti-tanking bastard. 39 pts vs the Heat throwing a whole season of suffering down the drain, almost. Way to start a pointless win streak......... O________________O John Wall or Evan Turner would have been the only way to make any positive out of this season.

And to the person saying his signing has been a mistake, it is too early to say, he's been mostly unhealthy. Before health problems he was 25 ppg with few shots.

Wish I could watch OKC vs PHX right now, that sounds like the most entertaining game ever.
wtf was that signature
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 02:15:17
April 10 2010 02:14 GMT
#2154
^lol you think that's bad, pacers 8-2 over their last 10 and beat the cavs today

judicator every team improves itself to 'compete', not just the 3-4 teams that actually have a shot at the title. ie: donk teams like detroit, don't see how you considered them a competing team

anyway dre miller, afflalo, frye, parker, crawford all play for competing teams and contribute positively, carter's been great in the last few months too and orlando could finish with a better record than the lakers, i'd say that's panned out, artest has been a positive too. the fact that you forgot half the moves that happened less than a year ago, as well as freely admitting you don't watch much nba make me think you shouldn't defend your opinion too ardently

also: mavs hotstreak was just that, they're only 5-5 over their last 10 and the fact that they've fallen off is a pretty big story since everyone was saying there's now 4 legit contenders. this was predicted in the advanced metric community before it happened, mavs were running hot in a number of ways. not to say they didn't improve, they did. just not by as much as people thought. i blame carlisle for playing so many terrible lineups. free roddy
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
April 10 2010 02:18 GMT
#2155
he may not win the MVP (even though he should) but at least he'll be the youngest scoring champ ever.

GOGO DURAN!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
April 10 2010 02:19 GMT
#2156
texas represent
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
April 10 2010 04:58 GMT
#2157
Those refs in that Dallas Portland game... boo =/
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
April 10 2010 15:49 GMT
#2158
rofl 76ers have a very nice 6 game losing streak to end the season
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
April 10 2010 16:24 GMT
#2159
On April 10 2010 11:18 Xeris wrote:
he may not win the MVP (even though he should) but at least he'll be the youngest scoring champ ever.

GOGO DURAN!


hes only there because lebron was sitting out of games
How do you mine minerals?
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 16:59:35
April 10 2010 16:57 GMT
#2160
Found this. Durant, dissapointments, big guys, young guys in the league.


http://www.nba.com/video/channels/barkley_zone/2010/04/09/20100409_barkley_zone.nba/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
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