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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 15 2014 16:01 GMT
#1541
You should use c stick though, which is why it's not recommended to do Training Mode. Plug in a second controller if you don't want Lv1 CPU bugging you.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6787 Posts
April 15 2014 17:05 GMT
#1542
Unless you only have dolphin to practice on, which has an AR code for enabling C stick in single player mode
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 15 2014 18:34 GMT
#1543
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19261 Posts
April 15 2014 18:38 GMT
#1544
for air attacks it lets you do things like approaching bairs or retreating fairs or late dairs without fast falling

on the ground, it's much simpler to wavedash smash with cstick
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 15 2014 19:21 GMT
#1545
also fastfalling uairs and just chaining uairs in general (marth, falcon). you'll miss a lot of your sh fastfalls without c sticking and you won't have precise control over your movement without it because you'll be using control stick for stuff
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 15 2014 20:08 GMT
#1546
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NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
April 15 2014 20:12 GMT
#1547
On April 16 2014 04:21 Kyuukyuu wrote:
also fastfalling uairs and just chaining uairs in general (marth, falcon). you'll miss a lot of your sh fastfalls without c sticking and you won't have precise control over your movement without it because you'll be using control stick for stuff


I think using A for aerials is still good for certain characters, like Marth, because it's much easier to control movements and still chain fast combos, like Ken combos.
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6787 Posts
April 15 2014 21:08 GMT
#1548
I use both A and C stick for aerials, depending on the timing needed, whether you need to DI during, etc.

For example Ness' doublejump cancel into fair or bair is almost impossible (for me) without using A, but I use Cstick when I'm doing normal jumps
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 15 2014 22:06 GMT
#1549
On April 16 2014 05:12 NapkinBox wrote:
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On April 16 2014 04:21 Kyuukyuu wrote:
also fastfalling uairs and just chaining uairs in general (marth, falcon). you'll miss a lot of your sh fastfalls without c sticking and you won't have precise control over your movement without it because you'll be using control stick for stuff


I think using A for aerials is still good for certain characters, like Marth, because it's much easier to control movements and still chain fast combos, like Ken combos.


I play Marth and use both. My point was you need cstick for a lot of situations so why would you not learn it
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19261 Posts
April 15 2014 22:57 GMT
#1550
My Marth double fair is cstick for the first and usually a for the second. I use Z for nairs with marth but not with anyone else :|
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 15 2014 23:00 GMT
#1551
for most characters z is also an option, if its more comfortable
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 15 2014 23:59 GMT
#1552
On April 16 2014 07:57 tofucake wrote:
My Marth double fair is cstick for the first and usually a for the second. I use Z for nairs with marth but not with anyone else :|

That sounds really hard to do a c-stick F instead of just pressing AF AF really quick
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 16 2014 01:50 GMT
#1553
It gives you more control though, since you don't want to be approaching with aerials as Marth that often
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19261 Posts
April 16 2014 02:02 GMT
#1554
On April 16 2014 08:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 07:57 tofucake wrote:
My Marth double fair is cstick for the first and usually a for the second. I use Z for nairs with marth but not with anyone else :|

That sounds really hard to do a c-stick F instead of just pressing AF AF really quick

But it does allow me to do retreating double fairs
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
April 16 2014 04:28 GMT
#1555
So arguments about who is or isn't s tier is pretty much settled, so who do you guys think is most over or under rated in A tier or below?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 16 2014 05:43 GMT
#1556
Yoshi!
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 16 2014 06:05 GMT
#1557
yoshi, but has requires some mad and sometimes risky tech skills. otherwise luigi
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 16 2014 06:12 GMT
#1558
overrated: ganon. this dude sucks. maybe dr mario too
underrated: yoshi/luigi
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19261 Posts
April 16 2014 12:20 GMT
#1559
tiers are pretty much settled. Unless someone comes along and revolutionizes a character (like Mango/HBox did for jiggs), not much will change.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3567 Posts
April 16 2014 14:02 GMT
#1560
Hi guys!

I am actually having a "retro gaming party" tonight with a couple friend from undergrad, I dont think any of us has played in about 8 years (yeah I m old :p).
I used to play Samus (we re all noob you know) and they were Yoshi, Pikachu (so god damn annoying I even remember it after all these years) and the 4th one played either Marth or Fox.
I ll let you know how badly I got owned...but I m sure it ll be fun.
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