On October 31 2009 14:40 Dead9 wrote: Does disconnecting not count as a loss? BTW why is it in every vod I see rangers with exactly 6 jack spike? Is there some special combo?
edit: and how does this look for a PvP-oriented elementalist? click
max Indomitable Spirit.
you're going to get owned by a lot of melee classes without it (you might still get owned with it) and it'll at least punish fucking low level gunners from abusing windmill (personal rant). can't really comment on the rest since I don't think the level 60 cap is going to come anytime soon. high level Fire Pillar is very nice though and max Frosty is obvious. Elemental Burn is supposed to be more of a PvE-centric skill, so you may consider spending SP elsewhere. Lantern Firebomb also gains a little homing ability as its level increases but I see DnF Eles mostly using Pluto / Frosty for Tier 1 skills, so I guess the homing ability isn't good enough in high level PvP to consider leveling Firebomb.
I also think Elementalists are one of the weaker PvP classes with the level 40 cap.
On October 31 2009 14:40 Dead9 wrote: Does disconnecting not count as a loss? BTW why is it in every vod I see rangers with exactly 6 jack spike? Is there some special combo?
you're going to get owned by a lot of melee classes without it (you might still get owned with it) and it'll at least punish fucking low level gunners from abusing windmill (personal rant). can't really comment on the rest since I don't think the level 60 cap is going to come anytime soon. high level Fire Pillar is very nice though and max Frosty is obvious. Elemental Burn is supposed to be more of a PvE-centric skill, so you may consider spending SP elsewhere. Lantern Firebomb also gains a little homing ability as its level increases but I see DnF Eles mostly using Pluto / Frosty for Tier 1 skills, so I guess the homing ability isn't good enough in high level PvP to consider leveling Firebomb.
I also think Elementalists are one of the weaker PvP classes with the level 40 cap.
Ah for indomitable I have to sacrifice my ice stuff ;; I heard elemental burn triples your damage if you get all 4 lit up, and I see a lot of pros with it (I see a lot of pros with max uppercut too, weird huh)
Also for you mech build it depends if you plan to PvP, and make a lv60 build -> base your 40 build around that
punisher i found was really useful in general because it breaks superarmor, despite its short range. this is really good when your nades don't work.
I didn't put any points in robotoics, mostly because while the damage bonus is nice, it;s fairly mana consuming and is next to useless in pvp because as a mech you need to be constantly on your feet. but that's just me.
On October 31 2009 14:40 Dead9 wrote: Does disconnecting not count as a loss? BTW why is it in every vod I see rangers with exactly 6 jack spike? Is there some special combo?
you're going to get owned by a lot of melee classes without it (you might still get owned with it) and it'll at least punish fucking low level gunners from abusing windmill (personal rant). can't really comment on the rest since I don't think the level 60 cap is going to come anytime soon. high level Fire Pillar is very nice though and max Frosty is obvious. Elemental Burn is supposed to be more of a PvE-centric skill, so you may consider spending SP elsewhere. Lantern Firebomb also gains a little homing ability as its level increases but I see DnF Eles mostly using Pluto / Frosty for Tier 1 skills, so I guess the homing ability isn't good enough in high level PvP to consider leveling Firebomb.
I also think Elementalists are one of the weaker PvP classes with the level 40 cap.
Ah for indomitable I have to sacrifice my ice stuff ;; I heard elemental burn triples your damage if you get all 4 lit up, and I see a lot of pros with it (I see a lot of pros with max uppercut too, weird huh)
Also for you mech build it depends if you plan to PvP, and make a lv60 build -> base your 40 build around that
this Ele uses it as a floor scraper and to continue an aerial combo. no idea if he has max uppercut though, but I'd guess those are probably the applications for max uppercut. this is also the only Ele I've been able to find that doesn't get owned in televised matches (although he eventually ends up getting owned by a fighter in later rounds so I'm contradicting myself)
for comparison, fighter ownage. no idea on subclass
Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3
And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !
On November 02 2009 15:14 Valentine wrote: Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3
And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !
gameguard sux balls don't listen to anything he says
On November 02 2009 15:14 Valentine wrote: Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3
And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !
Korean, Japanese, Chinese Pick one ;;
BTW gameguard that elemental-style battlemage I was talking about:
It's sick dude
4th Dungeon Fighter Online League Challenger RO8(Team) Group A 4th Dungeon Fighter Online League Challenger RO8(Team) Group B 4th Dungeon Fighter Online League Challenger RO4(Team) Group A 4th Dungeon Fighter Online League : Winner of RO4 VS 3rd Seed(Team) ^recent videos I've seen with elementalists in them (don't remember results or what happened in any of them). I'm actually considering maxing uppercut and dropping some levels from pillar since uppercut is just that imba ;;
dead9 has a battle mage so you should ask him for advice. His pretty bad though lol. Almost as bad as gokey
but really just learn the basics mechanics of pvp right now, like how quick rebound works, and how combos work. You really shouldnt bother until at least lvl 25.
On November 02 2009 15:14 Valentine wrote: Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3
And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !
Korean, Japanese, Chinese Pick one ;;
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Are there no good english players/websites? I don't really get what you're saying or asking of me.
Hmm, well then could I just get some opinions on those questions I asked? ^___^ I mean I just want a solid foundation to begin practicing without bad habits, and being able to learn and grow from there.
first thing you wana do is change the hotkeys. Im not sure ifu alraedy did, but place them all close to each other so you can easily reach them.
if you use the default zxc for skill jump attack, you and set up your keys to asdfg qwer and control space shift. Well thats my setup, but you can do anything thats comfortable to use.
Also, just memorize the skill input for the buffs. The default key for buffs is space, but since im using space for backstep, I changed it to V. This saves u alot of hotkey space for active skills.
On November 02 2009 17:27 gameguard wrote: dead9 has a battle mage so you should ask him for advice. His pretty bad though lol. Almost as bad as gokey
but really just learn the basics mechanics of pvp right now, like how quick rebound works, and how combos work. You really shouldnt bother until at least lvl 25.
wait...you can get higher levels of quick rebound? 0-0
btw. since im quitting the computer for at least a few months (eyes are getting bad). Someone can temporarily play on a lvl 34 ranger if they want xD. Nice equips and everything. PM/post?
not a guarantee that it will work, but I was seeing how far I could upgrade a +6 Lvl 30 Revolver I got out of the pot and going from +8 to +9 I got a message that "Inventory is full" (my materials tab has no open space)
I kept trying to upgrade but kept getting the "Inventory is full" message. I figured that the revolver failed the upgrade and was supposed to be destroyed into cube fragments, but since my materials tab had no open space, it couldn't actually be destroyed. so, if you don't want your upgraded item to be turned into cube fragments make sure your materials tab has no open space and no clear cube fragments.
also, I don't think many TLers use Nexon's forum, but please don't post about this on their forum. would prefer Nexon not fix this. your item can still go back down to +0 as well.