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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 04:49:31
November 02 2009 04:38 GMT
#1061
On October 31 2009 14:40 Dead9 wrote:
Does disconnecting not count as a loss?
BTW why is it in every vod I see rangers with exactly 6 jack spike? Is there some special combo?

edit: and how does this look for a PvP-oriented elementalist?
click


max Indomitable Spirit.

you're going to get owned by a lot of melee classes without it (you might still get owned with it) and it'll at least punish fucking low level gunners from abusing windmill (personal rant). can't really comment on the rest since I don't think the level 60 cap is going to come anytime soon. high level Fire Pillar is very nice though and max Frosty is obvious. Elemental Burn is supposed to be more of a PvE-centric skill, so you may consider spending SP elsewhere. Lantern Firebomb also gains a little homing ability as its level increases but I see DnF Eles mostly using Pluto / Frosty for Tier 1 skills, so I guess the homing ability isn't good enough in high level PvP to consider leveling Firebomb.

I also think Elementalists are one of the weaker PvP classes with the level 40 cap.
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Rainbow
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
November 02 2009 04:57 GMT
#1062
How's this for Mechanic skills?
http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=mechanic#040:vCs0TbuDb0UbwGbvDfvVhvRhxEdwAbxFfvEfvSbwNdxGdwJb

Any other skills I need?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 05:31:56
November 02 2009 05:24 GMT
#1063
On November 02 2009 13:38 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 14:40 Dead9 wrote:
Does disconnecting not count as a loss?
BTW why is it in every vod I see rangers with exactly 6 jack spike? Is there some special combo?

edit: and how does this look for a PvP-oriented elementalist?
PbuPkuRfvMf0TbuDbuQtuStuObuTjvDevRbvNkuCkvGbwHkvBsvEkwGkvCnwJbwIb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">click


max Indomitable Spirit.

you're going to get owned by a lot of melee classes without it (you might still get owned with it) and it'll at least punish fucking low level gunners from abusing windmill (personal rant). can't really comment on the rest since I don't think the level 60 cap is going to come anytime soon. high level Fire Pillar is very nice though and max Frosty is obvious. Elemental Burn is supposed to be more of a PvE-centric skill, so you may consider spending SP elsewhere. Lantern Firebomb also gains a little homing ability as its level increases but I see DnF Eles mostly using Pluto / Frosty for Tier 1 skills, so I guess the homing ability isn't good enough in high level PvP to consider leveling Firebomb.

I also think Elementalists are one of the weaker PvP classes with the level 40 cap.

Ah for indomitable I have to sacrifice my ice stuff ;;
I heard elemental burn triples your damage if you get all 4 lit up, and I see a lot of pros with it (I see a lot of pros with max uppercut too, weird huh)

Also for you mech build it depends if you plan to PvP, and make a lv60 build -> base your 40 build around that

edit: how does this look
click
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 02 2009 05:25 GMT
#1064
windmill...

punisher i found was really useful in general because it breaks superarmor, despite its short range. this is really good when your nades don't work.

I didn't put any points in robotoics, mostly because while the damage bonus is nice, it;s fairly mana consuming and is next to useless in pvp because as a mech you need to be constantly on your feet. but that's just me.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 06:07:42
November 02 2009 05:51 GMT
#1065
On November 02 2009 14:24 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 13:38 udgnim wrote:
On October 31 2009 14:40 Dead9 wrote:
Does disconnecting not count as a loss?
BTW why is it in every vod I see rangers with exactly 6 jack spike? Is there some special combo?

edit: and how does this look for a PvP-oriented elementalist?
PbuPkuRfvMf0TbuDbuQtuStuObuTjvDevRbvNkuCkvGbwHkvBsvEkwGkvCnwJbwIb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">click


max Indomitable Spirit.

you're going to get owned by a lot of melee classes without it (you might still get owned with it) and it'll at least punish fucking low level gunners from abusing windmill (personal rant). can't really comment on the rest since I don't think the level 60 cap is going to come anytime soon. high level Fire Pillar is very nice though and max Frosty is obvious. Elemental Burn is supposed to be more of a PvE-centric skill, so you may consider spending SP elsewhere. Lantern Firebomb also gains a little homing ability as its level increases but I see DnF Eles mostly using Pluto / Frosty for Tier 1 skills, so I guess the homing ability isn't good enough in high level PvP to consider leveling Firebomb.

I also think Elementalists are one of the weaker PvP classes with the level 40 cap.

Ah for indomitable I have to sacrifice my ice stuff ;;
I heard elemental burn triples your damage if you get all 4 lit up, and I see a lot of pros with it (I see a lot of pros with max uppercut too, weird huh)

Also for you mech build it depends if you plan to PvP, and make a lv60 build -> base your 40 build around that

edit: how does this look
click


this Ele uses it as a floor scraper and to continue an aerial combo. no idea if he has max uppercut though, but I'd guess those are probably the applications for max uppercut. this is also the only Ele I've been able to find that doesn't get owned in televised matches (although he eventually ends up getting owned by a fighter in later rounds so I'm contradicting myself)



for comparison, fighter ownage. no idea on subclass

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 06:26:08
November 02 2009 06:14 GMT
#1066
Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3

And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
November 02 2009 07:07 GMT
#1067
On November 02 2009 15:14 Valentine wrote:
Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3

And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !

gameguard sux balls
don't listen to anything he says
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 02 2009 08:25 GMT
#1068
On November 02 2009 15:14 Valentine wrote:
Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3

And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !

Korean, Japanese, Chinese
Pick one
;;

BTW gameguard that elemental-style battlemage I was talking about:

It's sick dude

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^recent videos I've seen with elementalists in them (don't remember results or what happened in any of them). I'm actually considering maxing uppercut and dropping some levels from pillar since uppercut is just that imba ;;
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
November 02 2009 08:27 GMT
#1069
dead9 has a battle mage so you should ask him for advice. His pretty bad though lol. Almost as bad as gokey

but really just learn the basics mechanics of pvp right now, like how quick rebound works, and how combos work. You really shouldnt bother until at least lvl 25.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
November 02 2009 08:42 GMT
#1070
On November 02 2009 12:21 Dead9 wrote:
GAMEGUARD BUY LV5 WEAPONS AND RAPE UP PVP WITH THIS
http://vlog.17173.com/v/1/20011/53/NTM3MjU5


wtf that guys insane. I dont have moonslight slash though ;

maybe if i have attack speed i could do half of that stuff
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
November 02 2009 08:50 GMT
#1071
On November 02 2009 17:25 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 15:14 Valentine wrote:
Heya, could anyone recommend any websites or forums that discuss the small, intricate details of character play such as the most efficient hotkeys to put teach spell on? I'm really picky about being as efficient as possible, or if anyone could just answer that question for Battle Mages real quick, I would feel a lot better while losing in PvP practice :3

And gameguard seems really knowledgeable in PvP, if I could specifically ask your opinion on Battle Mages skill builds, or if you could point me in the right direction for educating myself, I would be a happy boy : D !

Korean, Japanese, Chinese
Pick one
;;

=[

Are there no good english players/websites? I don't really get what you're saying or asking of me.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 08:52:43
November 02 2009 08:52 GMT
#1072
there really isnt

but if u want skill info and stuff u can go here

http://wiki.dfo-world.com/
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 08:54:19
November 02 2009 08:53 GMT
#1073
Hmm, well then could I just get some opinions on those questions I asked? ^___^ I mean I just want a solid foundation to begin practicing without bad habits, and being able to learn and grow from there.

EDIT: okay, will do.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
November 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#1074
first thing you wana do is change the hotkeys. Im not sure ifu alraedy did, but place them all close to each other so you can easily reach them.

if you use the default zxc for skill jump attack, you and set up your keys to asdfg qwer and control space shift. Well thats my setup, but you can do anything thats comfortable to use.

Also, just memorize the skill input for the buffs. The default key for buffs is space, but since im using space for backstep, I changed it to V. This saves u alot of hotkey space for active skills.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 02 2009 15:39 GMT
#1075
i'm really poor
give me your free items k thx
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 03 2009 00:15 GMT
#1076
On November 02 2009 17:27 gameguard wrote:
dead9 has a battle mage so you should ask him for advice. His pretty bad though lol. Almost as bad as gokey

but really just learn the basics mechanics of pvp right now, like how quick rebound works, and how combos work. You really shouldnt bother until at least lvl 25.

Too bad you keep losing to him huh
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
November 03 2009 11:16 GMT
#1077
i got a quick rebound shirt. Its amazing. You can dodge ranger pewpew and stuff for alot longer.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 04 2009 00:00 GMT
#1078
How much was it?
I want one too ;;
xJacky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
China375 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-04 02:57:57
November 04 2009 02:57 GMT
#1079
wait...you can get higher levels of quick rebound? 0-0

btw. since im quitting the computer for at least a few months (eyes are getting bad). Someone can temporarily play on a lvl 34 ranger if they want xD. Nice equips and everything. PM/post?
Love was supposed to be something women chased, not men. - Neil Strauss
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-04 17:36:46
November 04 2009 17:26 GMT
#1080
not a guarantee that it will work, but I was seeing how far I could upgrade a +6 Lvl 30 Revolver I got out of the pot and going from +8 to +9 I got a message that "Inventory is full" (my materials tab has no open space)

I kept trying to upgrade but kept getting the "Inventory is full" message. I figured that the revolver failed the upgrade and was supposed to be destroyed into cube fragments, but since my materials tab had no open space, it couldn't actually be destroyed. so, if you don't want your upgraded item to be turned into cube fragments make sure your materials tab has no open space and no clear cube fragments.

also, I don't think many TLers use Nexon's forum, but please don't post about this on their forum. would prefer Nexon not fix this. your item can still go back down to +0 as well.

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