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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
October 29 2009 23:26 GMT
#1021
Well I'm apparently much better than the average pvp'er in the middle channel (I forget the name, the rank 5-10 one). I've been stomping on most people I run into with my soulbender now.

I pretty much just get Keiga and ghost step up, then run around and look for a chance to upper slash/moonlight slash. Upper slash lets me then moonlight - gore - upper - ghost slash; moonlight slash just lets me ghost slash after. Ghost slash hits for about 4000 damage usually and moonlight gets about 3500 or so total.

When my ghost step runs out I toss up saya + bremen in a corner and camp out the 10 seconds between the end of the duration and the end of the cooldown. If I'm against a gunner, well, I'm bad vs. gunners still. Most of them just let me get ghost step and keiga up again without bothering me. *shrug*

So I've pulled my record over 50% again after starting out something like 15-40 (largely thanks to getting stomped by my friend's Witch for a long time at 25 till I learned the matchup).
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 00:01:34
October 30 2009 00:00 GMT
#1022
Gameguard the song is this:

asked my taiwanese friend

edit: I keep doing panzer summon -> afk -> die
-_- so useless
Rainbow
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
October 30 2009 03:15 GMT
#1023
Can anyone recommend a new class for me -__-
Preferably a class that can solo every once in a while and either hits hard or hits fast. I'm not too big of a balanced character. I've made a spit fire and soul bender, level 22 and 23 i think.
I'm looking at weapon master, and I'm wondering how mechanics play. Do they just sit and spam the land runner?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 30 2009 03:30 GMT
#1024
I'd say weapons master?
Spitfire fits your description too
That's what mechs do in PvP, no clue about PvE
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 30 2009 03:52 GMT
#1025
On October 30 2009 12:15 Rainbow wrote:
Can anyone recommend a new class for me -__-
Preferably a class that can solo every once in a while and either hits hard or hits fast. I'm not too big of a balanced character. I've made a spit fire and soul bender, level 22 and 23 i think.
I'm looking at weapon master, and I'm wondering how mechanics play. Do they just sit and spam the land runner?

mechs are awesome

there are three basic types of mechs from what i see

first is the pseudoranger/spitfire
This guy tends to get a LOT of ranger abilities, like jack spike, mach kick, windmill, punisher, etc. He also gets either freeze or light bullets, and tends to not use landrunners for damage-he uses them as a poke. His primary damage is the corona bot. However, he gets countered pretty hard by virtually anybody with superarmor, actual rangers and spitfires, and monks.

Then there is the pseudolauncher type. I sort of play like this. He uses the viper, time bomb, and land runner to set up a defense perimeter where he can spam gatling and steyr and remote detonation. If they try to get into the perimeter they usually get naded, bbqed, and pretty dead. They die to launchers and witches and brawlers though, and even summoners.

Then there is the pure mech type. He literally just runs around spamming land runners and occasionally windmilling. I dont use windmill but i do love spamming landrunners. Of course, the moment a monk, grappler, weapon master, or battle mage gets you, you die pretty quickly because you don't have very many escapes.

By the way, max out secret landrunner. It may seem insignificant at lower levels but up here you get two landrunners like every two summons. And when your landrunners do 1500 damage each like every 3 seconds, that adds up.
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
October 30 2009 03:54 GMT
#1026
On October 30 2009 08:26 crate wrote:
Well I'm apparently much better than the average pvp'er in the middle channel (I forget the name, the rank 5-10 one). I've been stomping on most people I run into with my soulbender now.

I pretty much just get Keiga and ghost step up, then run around and look for a chance to upper slash/moonlight slash. Upper slash lets me then moonlight - gore - upper - ghost slash; moonlight slash just lets me ghost slash after. Ghost slash hits for about 4000 damage usually and moonlight gets about 3500 or so total.

When my ghost step runs out I toss up saya + bremen in a corner and camp out the 10 seconds between the end of the duration and the end of the cooldown. If I'm against a gunner, well, I'm bad vs. gunners still. Most of them just let me get ghost step and keiga up again without bothering me. *shrug*

So I've pulled my record over 50% again after starting out something like 15-40 (largely thanks to getting stomped by my friend's Witch for a long time at 25 till I learned the matchup).



we should pvp sometimes. What lvl is your soul bender ? I think soul benders are generally weak at the lvl 40 cap because they need to max ghost step and maybe the summons to take advantage of their playstyle. Also the black flames are one of their main source of damage and they dont have it.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 03:56:58
October 30 2009 03:56 GMT
#1027
By the way I was completely wrong when I said ghost step was mostly useless at level 1. It's amazing period.

I also found out I have no idea what I'm doing with my battlemage and I'm bad with my weaponmaster. My soulbender just seems so easy. I run through gatlings, I run through landrunners, then I get in a hit and I get 6000 damage since everything links to ghost slash.

Still I'm definitely worse vs gunner subclasses than vs others since I can't just camp the corner when I don't have ghost step on ... gatling can still hit me

I'm level 35 now.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 30 2009 04:15 GMT
#1028
Should I go elementalist or summoner? ;;
Elementalists are worse at gold farming but summoners suck at PvP
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 04:53:37
October 30 2009 04:49 GMT
#1029
On October 30 2009 13:15 Dead9 wrote:
Should I go elementalist or summoner? ;;
Elementalists are worse at gold farming but summoners suck at PvP


Elementalist damage is limited by their mana because all their DPS comes from their spells

the result is that they'll have issues soloing some higher level dungeons on Master / King due to going oom. this can be fixed by using mana consumeables or afking to regen mana (Elementalist have fast base mana regen), but I'd prefer to be able to boss run a dungeon without relying on such methods. I'd guess an alternate method is to stack mana regen, but I don't care much for that route since mana regen is really only useful in PvE and I'd rather burn through mana consumeables than spend gold on mana regen gear.

Elementalist is a whole lot funner to play than my Spitfire though. damage wise, I'd say it's pretty dungeon dependent. dungeons where mobs tend to clump together = good. dungeons where mobs tend to not clump together = oom fast and not so fun.

regarding PvP, I haven't had much experience.

I have issues with gunners that camp one corner of the map and then run to the other side as I try to pressure them. their attacks outrange mine with stuff like gatling, steyr (which seems to have some fucking miraculous homing ability), flamethrower, and I really only have Fire Pillar as a range skill to try to attack them. really need a higher level frosty but am limited by the lvl 40 cap. I try to get in close and hit them with Ice Wall / Sun Burst, but it's pretty difficult since they can either do the gun jump move, slide, or windmill.

fighters also scare the shit out of me. some of their grabs seem to have a huge range.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
October 30 2009 04:54 GMT
#1030
Oh, right, I have no idea how to deal with tornado kick and I just kinda lose to good fighters who have it.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 30 2009 04:59 GMT
#1031
Elementalists can solo most of the dungeons though right?
That's pretty much all I care about, if I can make money I can buy some MP regen since it's pretty cheap anyways
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 30 2009 05:15 GMT
#1032
On October 30 2009 13:54 crate wrote:
Oh, right, I have no idea how to deal with tornado kick and I just kinda lose to good fighters who have it.


I think jumping works against tornado kick. haven't tried it myself. just pretty sure I saw some person jumping in a DnF video when a fighter used tornado kick.

On October 30 2009 13:59 Dead9 wrote:
Elementalists can solo most of the dungeons though right?
That's pretty much all I care about, if I can make money I can buy some MP regen since it's pretty cheap anyways


as long as you don't go oom, should be able to

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
October 30 2009 05:28 GMT
#1033
On October 30 2009 12:52 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 12:15 Rainbow wrote:
Can anyone recommend a new class for me -__-
Preferably a class that can solo every once in a while and either hits hard or hits fast. I'm not too big of a balanced character. I've made a spit fire and soul bender, level 22 and 23 i think.
I'm looking at weapon master, and I'm wondering how mechanics play. Do they just sit and spam the land runner?

mechs are awesome

there are three basic types of mechs from what i see

first is the pseudoranger/spitfire
This guy tends to get a LOT of ranger abilities, like jack spike, mach kick, windmill, punisher, etc. He also gets either freeze or light bullets, and tends to not use landrunners for damage-he uses them as a poke. His primary damage is the corona bot. However, he gets countered pretty hard by virtually anybody with superarmor, actual rangers and spitfires, and monks.

Then there is the pseudolauncher type. I sort of play like this. He uses the viper, time bomb, and land runner to set up a defense perimeter where he can spam gatling and steyr and remote detonation. If they try to get into the perimeter they usually get naded, bbqed, and pretty dead. They die to launchers and witches and brawlers though, and even summoners.

Then there is the pure mech type. He literally just runs around spamming land runners and occasionally windmilling. I dont use windmill but i do love spamming landrunners. Of course, the moment a monk, grappler, weapon master, or battle mage gets you, you die pretty quickly because you don't have very many escapes.

By the way, max out secret landrunner. It may seem insignificant at lower levels but up here you get two landrunners like every two summons. And when your landrunners do 1500 damage each like every 3 seconds, that adds up.



most mechs seem same to me. Run around spamming land runner, time bomb and nades to buy time/space. Set up viper when they can, and try to live until tempester comes to save the day. Oh and like all gunners, they obviously have jackspike windmill bbq mach.

What it boils down to is how good they are at avoiding the other player and landing those nade/jack/bbq for massive damage.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 30 2009 05:32 GMT
#1034
get back on game
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
October 30 2009 08:02 GMT
#1035
NOKCHA if ur reading this msg me in pvp channel !~
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 30 2009 15:03 GMT
#1036
On October 30 2009 14:28 gameguard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 12:52 Caller wrote:
On October 30 2009 12:15 Rainbow wrote:
Can anyone recommend a new class for me -__-
Preferably a class that can solo every once in a while and either hits hard or hits fast. I'm not too big of a balanced character. I've made a spit fire and soul bender, level 22 and 23 i think.
I'm looking at weapon master, and I'm wondering how mechanics play. Do they just sit and spam the land runner?

mechs are awesome

there are three basic types of mechs from what i see

first is the pseudoranger/spitfire
This guy tends to get a LOT of ranger abilities, like jack spike, mach kick, windmill, punisher, etc. He also gets either freeze or light bullets, and tends to not use landrunners for damage-he uses them as a poke. His primary damage is the corona bot. However, he gets countered pretty hard by virtually anybody with superarmor, actual rangers and spitfires, and monks.

Then there is the pseudolauncher type. I sort of play like this. He uses the viper, time bomb, and land runner to set up a defense perimeter where he can spam gatling and steyr and remote detonation. If they try to get into the perimeter they usually get naded, bbqed, and pretty dead. They die to launchers and witches and brawlers though, and even summoners.

Then there is the pure mech type. He literally just runs around spamming land runners and occasionally windmilling. I dont use windmill but i do love spamming landrunners. Of course, the moment a monk, grappler, weapon master, or battle mage gets you, you die pretty quickly because you don't have very many escapes.

By the way, max out secret landrunner. It may seem insignificant at lower levels but up here you get two landrunners like every two summons. And when your landrunners do 1500 damage each like every 3 seconds, that adds up.



most mechs seem same to me. Run around spamming land runner, time bomb and nades to buy time/space. Set up viper when they can, and try to live until tempester comes to save the day. Oh and like all gunners, they obviously have jackspike windmill bbq mach.

What it boils down to is how good they are at avoiding the other player and landing those nade/jack/bbq for massive damage.


tempester really isn't that strong
it does fixed damage and somebody whos not a total idiot can easilly take it out.

like I said there are three kinds of mechs. The aggressive one (pseudo ranger/spitfire) the zoning type (bombs bombs remote/launcher skills) and the type that you see apparently, the ones that run around and spam landrunner and the like.

I don't use windmill and mach, though, because they're gay
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 30 2009 18:04 GMT
#1037
On October 29 2009 15:26 Ginseng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2009 02:02 udgnim wrote:
thinking about making a Physical Exorcist soon

here's the build I've got planned atm after reading some information: http://www.aradsociety.com/planner/?class=exorcist#040:uBeuFbuGbuHfuLnvNfvOgvQivWevYdwAfwCbwQbwTcwUdwWb0Tb0Ub9Pb

Now about that build, you only get weapon launcher and phoenix hammer as prereqs for weapon launcher cancel, and future skills. Leveling phoenix hammer over 5 is a complete waste of points and that skill gets completely replaced in PvP.


can you explain what replaces Phoenix Hammer? thanks


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Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
October 30 2009 18:11 GMT
#1038
If you are going the pure physical exorcist route, you max out chakra of passion and star in the sky (though the damage increase of each level isn't that good for use of skill points; this is due to the huge ranges between the min and max %increase).
Contact me via the following: Twitter: @notginseng | Discord: Ginseng#9638
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
October 30 2009 19:26 GMT
#1039
my mech is lvl 26 now...slowly getting it up there. i will be in expert room soon in anyone wants to pvp

new IGN: inept
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 31 2009 04:08 GMT
#1040
would think he'd be higher than Glad 2 with a 99.03% win rate over 308 matches

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