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On May 12 2011 17:21 latan wrote:
ok the top wc3 players are playing sc2 right now. why doesn't this translate into them dominating the "mediocre" ex bw players?. the line of thought of this article is flawed.
I don't think bw players gets to get at the top just because of raw talent or 'the right attitude', BW has a lot of baggage into it if you were to take it seriously you'd have to learn it, the most succesful will be the one who assimilates all the baggage from sc past but sc2 is new it has no baggage, a mere understanding of fundamentals and practice and execution can get you far.
what im saying is that the person who knows most about stacraft 2 isn't as far apart in skill to the person who knows least as is in the case for starcraft 1.
believing that great at BW will translate into great at sc2 is the farse.
it does translate but you misinterpret
the wc3 competition was never as big as brood, and thus produced less players, which is why moon, wc3's boxer, went on to leave the sport as a top if not the best player in wc3, where as boxer became a shut out. Its that it may be possible that as a result of this amount of competition that bw b teamers are comparable in skill to wc3.
And i know the argument will be made, well then they should have switched to wc3. But there was not nearly as much money in that game as sc2, and they simply by being b teamers got a house and food and better wages than the wc3 players (which is why the competition wasnt as big) and so they didnt
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Keke let's not talk about Flash switching to SC2. I won't be able to sleep at night.
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Well i don't understand the SC1 QQ from the OP.
Just because your very good in SC1 doesn't mean you will be the same in SC2.
(it may be helpful but will no way make you instantly god)
It still all bases around practise and experiance, and those who play for a longer time have better experiance thus some advantages.
Just because some player were considered bad in SC1 doesn't mean they would be bad in SC2 too if the "real" Pros would switch, that is just an assumption.
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On May 12 2011 17:27 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:25 Nolot wrote:On May 12 2011 17:20 travis wrote:On May 12 2011 17:07 H wrote:On May 12 2011 17:02 travis wrote:
It is absolutely ridiculous to compare the competition in a game that is less than 1 year old to a game that people have been playing professionally for over 10 years. To call the competition in sc2 a "farce" is to call the competition in most every game other than sc:bw a farce, and that's sc:bw elitism at it's finest(and not in a good way). Except the top competition in SC2, as written in the article, played SC1 professionally for years.. and sucked at it. And maybe they played chess and sucked at that too? Who cares? A bunch of B teamer and some A- teamer bw players switched and some B teamers rose to the top, with amazing play. So what exactly is the point? That competition can become more fierce? Well duh, the game is less than a year old. Or is the point that sc:bw has better gamers and that if the pros from it switch to sc2 they will immediately own everyone? Because that's just conjecture and I expect it's not exactly true, and it certainly won't happen instantly anyways. It's also rude. In 5 years it won't be a sc1 player sitting on the GSL(or whatever tournament) throne. It'll be a sc2 player. Actually you know what, it already is. Nestea is clearly a sc2 player. I have to agree here, and didn't MVP beat Flash once in a scbw game? He beat him once in a 50 minute TvT that honestly could have gone either way in the last second. Flash won the other games in total dominating fashion.
So you are telling me that someone who can last 50mins in a TvT vs Flash, and win it in the end sucked? That doesn't make any sense to me
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On May 12 2011 17:19 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:15 ELA wrote:On May 12 2011 17:10 NasD wrote:
Speechless..
I caught the tail end of BW in its glory days so I may not be justified to say this, but I cannot wait until the day that what you are saying is a reality. What is this thing that you cannot wait for that OP is saying? What is he saying? To me, he's basicly saying, that Starcraft 2 isn't interesting to watch, as there are still 300 people with asorted ratings playing Broodwar. Only when these players stop playing Broodwar and start playing SC2, will Starcraft 2 be worth watching? Of course killing the Broodwar scene in the process, who cares about that right? Surely not the OP. If only they all played Starcraft 2... Then don't watch it? If brood war dies due to lack of fans, it's majority rule. It doesn't matter if the game is better, or the players are better, or the fans of that game are better. Popularity is what makes money in a thriving video game world. If Flash is so fucking good, that the OP thinks he would never lose in SC2, why not switch ASAP? If you win even HALF of the upcoming Starcraft 2 tourneys for 2011, you will make over $500-800k.
There is a lot more to it than money. Flash's stature in BW is almost to kpop star level. Winning an OSL gives him prestige and money and fans. SC2 is not that popular in Korea and for a player like Flash there is simply more upside to staying in a stable environment such as BW or switching to SC2 and ONLY playing GSL. It is an easy decision for someone like him.
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On May 12 2011 17:15 Zlasher wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:13 bennyaus wrote:On May 12 2011 17:07 H wrote:On May 12 2011 17:02 travis wrote:
It is absolutely ridiculous to compare the competition in a game that is less than 1 year old to a game that people have been playing professionally for over 10 years. To call the competition in sc2 a "farce" is to call the competition in most every game other than sc:bw a farce, and that's sc:bw elitism at it's finest(and not in a good way). Except the top competition in SC2, as written in the article, played SC1 professionally for years.. and sucked at it. Guemchi switched and couldn't qualify for a GSL, then he went back and immediately got back in Stars A team. The skill sets required to be 'good' at both games are completely different. I would argue that mechanics are less of a deciding factor in the result of games in SC2 and as a results the game is fought on strategy and tactics, which means that players who maybe did not have the best mechanics in other RTS games will be able to compete with top level players from Brood War. I am not saying that Brood War didn't have strategy/tactics on the same level, but more weight is put on those factors in SC2 as mechanics are easier. Therefore, a player who is less mechanically talented/less practiced, but has an excellent strategic mind might fare far better in SC2 than Brood War. I do agree that the S class pro-gamers will be excellent in SC2 if they ever switched, because they are excellent in all factors of an RTS. Thats ignoring the fact that Guemchi didn't like the SC2 lifestyle either.
what is this so called SC2 lifestyle ?
do a pro when switch from BW to SC2 need to have this lifestyle or can they keep their BW lifestyle ?
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On May 12 2011 17:21 gk_ender wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:17 Zeridian wrote:On May 12 2011 16:31 Kreb wrote:
I'm not sure what the whole fuss is about. The point states that theres 300 semi pros who potentially could dominate SC2. That might be a high or low number, but add to that tens of thousands of people who potentially could do it too had SC2 been a bigger thing worldwide. SC2 is still just game to most people playing it, and theres tons of people who doesnt even know what it is or care for games at all.
And Im not sure why that should lower the level of excitement. Am I supposed to not be excited about the NHL playoffs because hockey is only a big thing in some 6-8 countries worldwide? Thank you, but I'll have my excitement then, both in hockey and SC2.
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Oh, and I found a really the whole writeup lacking one thing. And that is a list of BW players on similar level of skill as MVP/Nestea who switched and did NOT do well. Thats what puts MVP/Nesteas achievements into perspective. Were they the only ones on their level switching, and they still dominate SC2? Well then that indeed points towards there being a lot of hidden SC2 potential among BW players. But were there 50, or 200 other players on that level also switching? Well in that case, their SC2 achievements suddenly become a lot more impressive and we can indeed conclude that it IS a very different game and the new other game called SC2 just fit MVP/Nestea better and they were better prepared to dominate than all the other switchers. And downplaying their achievemtns where so many others failed would be a very risky thing to do.
But just picking the few players who have distinguished themselves from the masses, listing their lackluster BW careers and then downplaying them based on that really doesnt look at thing from other perspectives. You're literally gonna end up with the exact same conclusion no matter which players dominate SC2 unless they were top of the top BW players.
SC2 dominated by BW A-teamer? Conclusion: There tens or hundreds of other A-teamers who would dominate too.
SC2 dominated by BW B-teamer? Conclusion: There hundreds or thousands of other B-teamers who would dominate too.
SC2 dominated by someone less than a BW B-teamer? Conclusion: There thousands and more thousands of other A/B-teamers and others who would dominate too.
See the problem with those conclusions? Unless Flash switches and dominates, you end up with the same conclusion.
Add a comprehensive list of players switching and failing. That will really put thing into nice perspective. pretty much summed up what I thought is the correct approach. But the thing is, the scene is flooded with them. The kids that are on the korean teams are mostly ex bw b- players, and its not that mc was the best b- player, it could be that his style fit this game at this stage of its lifetime the best, but the point still is, that the b teamers are the s class of sc2. Not just nestea and mc, but bomber and pretty much everyone else on every team
So that means that lots of old B-Teamars switched, all together they became the general mass of SC2 players, forming SC2 teams? And some of those (MVP/Nestea/etc) managed to get ahead of the curve and dominate? That sounds about right. Sounds very logical too.
So how does that apply to any possible A-teamers switching? Well the probably just means that should same amount of A-teamers switch, they'd produce a similar or slightly higher amount of top SC2 players, but the general bunch would just join the regular SC2 bunch.
Or put in number (obviously just made up numbers to illustrate the point): If 100 B-Teamers switch and create 2 Nesteas and 30 regular Code A/S players, then its likely that should 100 A-Teamers switch, they'd produce some 3-4 Nesteas and maybe 40 regular Code A/S players. That would be logical. But does that mean the current SC2 top is a farce? Thats really a pretty strong statement.
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More of the usual TL drivel, O HARKEN THE DAYS OF BROOD WAR, WHERE PLAYERS WERE BETTER AND PEOPLE WHO READ ABOUT THE PLAYERS WERE ALSO BETTER
give me a break, if these guys had any SC2 skill they'd be playing SC2 since that's where the money is, obviously they are super powerful at broodwar and I hope they stay there, as the game is ancient and without major following outside of korea and teamliquid.net
also, how come you can write what is essentially a troll article? If I wrote a troll post on the forums I'd get banned. Yet this article does nothing but
a) make the BW nostalgia crew fap with anticipation
b) anger/confuse newer fans of SC2 who don't give a rat's ass about BW
c) bait trolling
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 12 2011 17:25 J.E.G. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 16:55 Comeh wrote:On May 12 2011 16:52 J.E.G. wrote:I read the "What's your point?" section and still don't see the point. Lesser players saw and avenue for success and took it; its not that complicated. On May 12 2011 13:32 intrigue wrote:
My prediction: there will be another influx of (T)MVP-level (A-class) pros into SC2 after deals fall through during the next August free agency. With the announcement of Heart of the Swarm for Spring 2012, it's likely they will decide to get a head start. This is the only non-subjective-taken-out-of-context part of the post. Money will dry up for BW over time, and the heavy weights will transfer to SC2. I'm curious why you think "money will dry out" for scbw - if money hasn't dried out in over 10 years, why would it dry out now? Unless sc2 starts stealing a majority of the scbw crowd, which hasn't been seen to be true in korea at the moment (according to reports), scbw is still the powerhouse over there. Really, the lack of perspective a lot of the newer sc2 users have is quite amazing - they don't really see what an amazing accomplishment scbw in korea truly is, and what an amazing and perfect game it is. It's pretty sad really. Edit: and for those that comment on how scbw is dying - there really hasn't been the level of success that scbw has had either. Until the game is truly established and accomplishes an "esport level" in a country (even in korea, which we haven't really seen it taken over like bw has), then I'm going to consider scbw more successful. Because SC2 already has a much larger international scene with multiple tournaments and leagues getting huge exposure around the glove, and its not even as good of a game as brood war is. Brood war will get left behind as talent shifts to SC2. From what i can find, the last patch for bw came out in late 2008, 10 years after the release of brood war. That means 10 years of balance changes to meet the demand of the then-growing BW scene. Over time, SC2 (which has been around for 10% of the time BW has, yet has nearly instantly surpassed BW in world-wide demand) will become a better, more stable game, there will be higher monetary incentives to play it, causing the big fish to switch, causing their fan bases to follow suit, causing demand for BW to drop, and sadly, dry out. Don't get me wrong, most of the games of SC2 i see are pretty boring, only a few of which that can compete with the epic-ness of BW, but to expect Blizzard to put out a game that is instantly more competitive and amazing than BW is absolutely ridiculous.
just like wc3 surpassed brood war........
the international community will hopefully learn from brood war successes and create a stable e-sport enviorment, but lets not count our chickens before they hatch, the sc2 fire has the ability to go out, especially if certain game mechanics which idra mentions a lot make it not as fun to watch, or if the game has the ability to be figured out
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On May 12 2011 17:20 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:07 H wrote:On May 12 2011 17:02 travis wrote:
It is absolutely ridiculous to compare the competition in a game that is less than 1 year old to a game that people have been playing professionally for over 10 years. To call the competition in sc2 a "farce" is to call the competition in most every game other than sc:bw a farce, and that's sc:bw elitism at it's finest(and not in a good way). Except the top competition in SC2, as written in the article, played SC1 professionally for years.. and sucked at it. And maybe they played chess and sucked at that too? Who cares? A bunch of B teamer and some A- teamer bw players switched and some B teamers rose to the top, with amazing play. So what exactly is the point? That competition can become more fierce? Well duh, the game is less than a year old. Or is the point that sc:bw has better gamers and that if the pros from it switch to sc2 they will immediately own everyone? Because that's just conjecture and I expect it's not exactly true, and it certainly won't happen instantly anyways. It's also rude. In 5 years it won't be a sc1 player sitting on the GSL(or whatever tournament) throne. It'll be a sc2 player. Actually you know what, it already is. Nestea is clearly a sc2 player.
Travis, I like the way you think.
No homo. [:
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On May 12 2011 17:25 J.E.G. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 16:55 Comeh wrote:On May 12 2011 16:52 J.E.G. wrote:I read the "What's your point?" section and still don't see the point. Lesser players saw and avenue for success and took it; its not that complicated. On May 12 2011 13:32 intrigue wrote:
My prediction: there will be another influx of (T)MVP-level (A-class) pros into SC2 after deals fall through during the next August free agency. With the announcement of Heart of the Swarm for Spring 2012, it's likely they will decide to get a head start. This is the only non-subjective-taken-out-of-context part of the post. Money will dry up for BW over time, and the heavy weights will transfer to SC2. I'm curious why you think "money will dry out" for scbw - if money hasn't dried out in over 10 years, why would it dry out now? Unless sc2 starts stealing a majority of the scbw crowd, which hasn't been seen to be true in korea at the moment (according to reports), scbw is still the powerhouse over there. Really, the lack of perspective a lot of the newer sc2 users have is quite amazing - they don't really see what an amazing accomplishment scbw in korea truly is, and what an amazing and perfect game it is. It's pretty sad really. Edit: and for those that comment on how scbw is dying - there really hasn't been the level of success that scbw has had either. Until the game is truly established and accomplishes an "esport level" in a country (even in korea, which we haven't really seen it taken over like bw has), then I'm going to consider scbw more successful. Because SC2 already has a much larger international scene with multiple tournaments and leagues getting huge exposure around the glove, and its not even as good of a game as brood war is. Brood war will get left behind as talent shifts to SC2. From what i can find, the last patch for bw came out in late 2008, 10 years after the release of brood war. That means 10 years of balance changes to meet the demand of the then-growing BW scene. Over time, SC2 (which has been around for 10% of the time BW has, yet has nearly instantly surpassed BW in world-wide demand) will become a better, more stable game, there will be higher monetary incentives to play it, causing the big fish to switch, causing their fan bases to follow suit, causing demand for BW to drop, and sadly, dry out. Don't get me wrong, most of the games of SC2 i see are pretty boring, only a few of which that can compete with the epic-ness of BW, but to expect Blizzard to put out a game that is instantly more competitive and amazing than BW is absolutely ridiculous.
the last balance patch was in 2001,sine then there have been patches with just fixes(which didn't really affect gameplay) and battle.net support.
BW is left behind for SC2,just not in Korea and thats not going to change for a long long time.
its really upto the community to make SC2 a much better and stable game,whining imba and crying at blizzard for fixing what requires skill to take down makes the game bland and boring to watch.
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Yay, another post that polarizes the BW and SC2 fans. Funny actually, as I am spending my vacation in South Korea now and 2 days ago after flipping through some TV channels I suddenly found a BW match. I was a bit intrigued after having watched only SC2 games and was actually motivated to look into the BW scene for the first time. Unfortunately the condensing tone of the OP kind of left a bad taste of BW elitism in my mouth :/
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I have had similar thoughts relayed in this piece, but reality always pulls me back.
The best players in the world are the ones who play the game and win.
The notion that someone who doesn't play the game is already assumed better is unfair and an insult to those who work so hard right now. When better players did eventually come along in the BW scene it didn't invalidate the champions of old. If and when better players enter SC2 scene it won't make what has been done a farce.
Individual players lack of success in BW previously may be attributed to a number of things, all of which may no longer be relevant in SC2. For example, they may have been too late to the BW party to catch up, had an inability to maintain production without MBS, or had poor understanding of a particular matchup. The slate was wiped clean with the release of the beta. If anything, the introduction of SC2 is giving us the most fair comparison of skill of the current player base since its fair to assume all of the top players started playing at the exact same time (beta).
It's not the same game, for the simple reason that it isn't the same game.
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On May 12 2011 17:31 darkscream wrote:
More of the usual TL drivel, O HARKEN THE DAYS OF BROOD WAR, WHERE PLAYERS WERE BETTER AND PEOPLE WHO READ ABOUT THE PLAYERS WERE ALSO BETTER
give me a break, if these guys had any SC2 skill they'd be playing SC2 since that's where the money is, obviously they are super powerful at broodwar and I hope they stay there, as the game is ancient and without major following outside of korea and teamliquid.net
also, how come you can write what is essentially a troll article? If I wrote a troll post on the forums I'd get banned. Yet this article does nothing but
a) make the BW nostalgia crew fap with anticipation
b) anger/confuse newer fans of SC2 who don't give a rat's ass about BW
c) bait trolling
lmfao.
lmfao forever.
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On May 12 2011 17:28 Nolot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:27 setzer wrote:On May 12 2011 17:25 Nolot wrote:On May 12 2011 17:20 travis wrote:On May 12 2011 17:07 H wrote:On May 12 2011 17:02 travis wrote:
It is absolutely ridiculous to compare the competition in a game that is less than 1 year old to a game that people have been playing professionally for over 10 years. To call the competition in sc2 a "farce" is to call the competition in most every game other than sc:bw a farce, and that's sc:bw elitism at it's finest(and not in a good way). Except the top competition in SC2, as written in the article, played SC1 professionally for years.. and sucked at it. And maybe they played chess and sucked at that too? Who cares? A bunch of B teamer and some A- teamer bw players switched and some B teamers rose to the top, with amazing play. So what exactly is the point? That competition can become more fierce? Well duh, the game is less than a year old. Or is the point that sc:bw has better gamers and that if the pros from it switch to sc2 they will immediately own everyone? Because that's just conjecture and I expect it's not exactly true, and it certainly won't happen instantly anyways. It's also rude. In 5 years it won't be a sc1 player sitting on the GSL(or whatever tournament) throne. It'll be a sc2 player. Actually you know what, it already is. Nestea is clearly a sc2 player. I have to agree here, and didn't MVP beat Flash once in a scbw game? He beat him once in a 50 minute TvT that honestly could have gone either way in the last second. Flash won the other games in total dominating fashion. So you are telling me that someone who can last 50mins in a TvT vs Flash, and win it in the end sucked? That doesn't make any sense to me
Get your eyes checked, I never said MVP sucks. I was stating a fact: the game MVP won could have gone either way and the games he lost got destroyed him. Flash destroys everyone and to last a 50 minute TvT (Flash's best matchup) speaks to the skill MVP displayed in that game. Going to the ro8 was a monumental achievement for MVP, someone who was simply known as a "woongjin terran."
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On May 12 2011 17:31 gk_ender wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 17:25 J.E.G. wrote:On May 12 2011 16:55 Comeh wrote:On May 12 2011 16:52 J.E.G. wrote:I read the "What's your point?" section and still don't see the point. Lesser players saw and avenue for success and took it; its not that complicated. On May 12 2011 13:32 intrigue wrote:
My prediction: there will be another influx of (T)MVP-level (A-class) pros into SC2 after deals fall through during the next August free agency. With the announcement of Heart of the Swarm for Spring 2012, it's likely they will decide to get a head start. This is the only non-subjective-taken-out-of-context part of the post. Money will dry up for BW over time, and the heavy weights will transfer to SC2. I'm curious why you think "money will dry out" for scbw - if money hasn't dried out in over 10 years, why would it dry out now? Unless sc2 starts stealing a majority of the scbw crowd, which hasn't been seen to be true in korea at the moment (according to reports), scbw is still the powerhouse over there. Really, the lack of perspective a lot of the newer sc2 users have is quite amazing - they don't really see what an amazing accomplishment scbw in korea truly is, and what an amazing and perfect game it is. It's pretty sad really. Edit: and for those that comment on how scbw is dying - there really hasn't been the level of success that scbw has had either. Until the game is truly established and accomplishes an "esport level" in a country (even in korea, which we haven't really seen it taken over like bw has), then I'm going to consider scbw more successful. Because SC2 already has a much larger international scene with multiple tournaments and leagues getting huge exposure around the glove, and its not even as good of a game as brood war is. Brood war will get left behind as talent shifts to SC2. From what i can find, the last patch for bw came out in late 2008, 10 years after the release of brood war. That means 10 years of balance changes to meet the demand of the then-growing BW scene. Over time, SC2 (which has been around for 10% of the time BW has, yet has nearly instantly surpassed BW in world-wide demand) will become a better, more stable game, there will be higher monetary incentives to play it, causing the big fish to switch, causing their fan bases to follow suit, causing demand for BW to drop, and sadly, dry out. Don't get me wrong, most of the games of SC2 i see are pretty boring, only a few of which that can compete with the epic-ness of BW, but to expect Blizzard to put out a game that is instantly more competitive and amazing than BW is absolutely ridiculous. just like wc3 surpassed brood war........ the international community will hopefully learn from brood war successes and create a stable e-sport enviorment, but lets not count our chickens before they hatch, the sc2 fire has the ability to go out, especially if certain game mechanics which idra mentions a lot make it not as fun to watch, or if the game has the ability to be figured out
That's true. Not much excitement about seeing someone using chrono boost/spawn larvae/mules
not sure if thats what you were talking about though 
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Oh yes, another BW > SC2 thread, only this time it was created by a mod. How enlightening and thought-provoking.
Seriously. I don't think anyone that watches SC2 thinks that the people playing now are the best that are ever going to play. The fact that you let that get in your way of enjoying the spectator experience is sad. I don't see why you had to make a whole write-up just to say, "I don't like watching SC2 because no one plays perfect like JD and Flash!" You know it's just going to devolve into BW vs. SC2, yet you write it anyway.
Regardless, I applaud your effort. You make a good point, but it's one I've heard before. For the future, if you want to talk about how pro players aren't great, use in-game examples of them making mistakes. Analyse some replays of top-level games where their macro slips, or they mis-control in a huge battle. Talking about BW stats of top-level SC2 progamers is a bad way to talk about the level of competition in SC2.
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On May 12 2011 17:25 J.E.G. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 16:55 Comeh wrote:On May 12 2011 16:52 J.E.G. wrote:I read the "What's your point?" section and still don't see the point. Lesser players saw and avenue for success and took it; its not that complicated. On May 12 2011 13:32 intrigue wrote:
My prediction: there will be another influx of (T)MVP-level (A-class) pros into SC2 after deals fall through during the next August free agency. With the announcement of Heart of the Swarm for Spring 2012, it's likely they will decide to get a head start. This is the only non-subjective-taken-out-of-context part of the post. Money will dry up for BW over time, and the heavy weights will transfer to SC2. I'm curious why you think "money will dry out" for scbw - if money hasn't dried out in over 10 years, why would it dry out now? Unless sc2 starts stealing a majority of the scbw crowd, which hasn't been seen to be true in korea at the moment (according to reports), scbw is still the powerhouse over there. Really, the lack of perspective a lot of the newer sc2 users have is quite amazing - they don't really see what an amazing accomplishment scbw in korea truly is, and what an amazing and perfect game it is. It's pretty sad really. Edit: and for those that comment on how scbw is dying - there really hasn't been the level of success that scbw has had either. Until the game is truly established and accomplishes an "esport level" in a country (even in korea, which we haven't really seen it taken over like bw has), then I'm going to consider scbw more successful. Because SC2 already has a much larger international scene with multiple tournaments and leagues getting huge exposure around the glove, and its not even as good of a game as brood war is. Brood war will get left behind as talent shifts to SC2. From what i can find, the last patch for bw came out in late 2008, 10 years after the release of brood war. That means 10 years of balance changes to meet the demand of the then-growing BW scene. Over time, SC2 (which has been around for 10% of the time BW has, yet has nearly instantly surpassed BW in world-wide demand) will become a better, more stable game, there will be higher monetary incentives to play it, causing the big fish to switch, causing their fan bases to follow suit, causing demand for BW to drop, and sadly, dry out. Don't get me wrong, most of the games of SC2 i see are pretty boring, only a few of which that can compete with the epic-ness of BW, but to expect Blizzard to put out a game that is instantly more competitive and amazing than BW is absolutely ridiculous.
BW hasn't had a change to balance since like 01 or 03, something ridiculously like that (i honestly forget) all patches after were just to address bugs. Please do some fact checking instead of making assumptions about the history of the scene.
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I would actually be interested in discussing the points of the article, however, as the tone of the article is extremely inflammatory I really have no interest in taking it seriously.
If you actually go and read it though, you can note that every single point it tries to make is based on assumptions.
Honestly, it looks like the kind of post that would normally get someone banned from TL, but instead is featured on the front page as some kind of amazing revelation.
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