EPTAll the team was guilty for those vertical balls through midfield : not enough pressing (it was decent though) but the receiver should almost never be able to just turn around so easily and hav e like 5 seconds to choose where to pass. Boateng was the only one to tackle the receivers of those long balls.
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nojok
France15846 Posts
All the team was guilty for those vertical balls through midfield : not enough pressing (it was decent though) but the receiver should almost never be able to just turn around so easily and hav e like 5 seconds to choose where to pass. Boateng was the only one to tackle the receivers of those long balls. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
Anyway, we can still do a '10 spain  But seriously, something has to happen. Things just havent clicked yet. If Löw manages to achieve this, they are still a top3 team. However, we have enough established players in there who should not rely on the manager to have the right mindset.On the upside, the chances to avoid serbia in the ro16 just went up tremendously. A loss against Brazil in the ro16 would be much easier to swallow. Edit: Oh, and as to not disappoint those waiting for german tears: A draw would have been justified. Mexico were just dead on their feet the last 15 minutes. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:10 sharkie wrote: haha, you are the only one who has criticised him in the last 6 years. He won the world cup 4 years ago. You cant criticise someone winning that Low has been consistently criticized because Germany puts in poor performances like this or unconvincing victories throughout tournaments. The talk has always been "keep him because he gets us to the semi's/finals" or "get rid of him because he's not getting good enough performances out of the talent we have". I guarantee you that the only thing that saved his job was winning the WC last time. He was even criticized pretty harshly at EURO16. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18497 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:23 Mafe wrote: The decision making was awful. I mean, they had possession so often on the edge of the mexican penalty box, and not once was there an attempt to get a pass to Werner, Gomez or someone else. Reus has to start next game, and Brandt also has a legitimate claim now. Bench Müller and/or Özil. Anyway, we can still do a '10 spain But seriously, something has to happen. Things just havent clicked yet. If Löw manages to achieve this, they are still a top3 team. However, we have enough established players in there who should not rely on the manager to have the right mindset.On the upside, the chances to avoid serbia in the ro16 just went up tremendously. A loss against Brazil in the ro16 would be much easier to swallow. You need actual fullbacks, and not a number 10 who for some reason thinks he's a fullback. Or at the very least, if you're going to allow Kimmich do those deep runs, you need somebody to cover him.The midfield was poor, but organization at the back and general defense was really shocking. And that's usually what the Mannschaft looks strongest at. That said, Mexico really impressed me. The tournament is young, and we'll have to see how they do vs. more organized defenses (like Sweden, hilariously), but based on just this match, Mexico look like they could go far. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:22 nojok wrote: Muller and Ozil were atrocious. Gotta give Gomez a shot if you plan on crossing that much. Hm I dont agree on Özil. I think it was rather the whole team that was not on point and had many mistakes. And they did not help each other defensively. Özil was one of the few that did not lose the ball and he also worked a lot. If I would criticize individuals it would be Müller and Khedira, also Werner did nothing. We knew from the test games before that the team has issues so I am not really surprised. | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
Congratz to Mexico, good and solid play and we were lucky not to lose by a higher margin. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
I think low needs other player for some of these positions | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:48 Faruko wrote: Also, how do you play this risky with only Boateng, he is way too slow. I think low needs other player for some of these positions Germany has 2 of the best CB's in the world and Kimmich is about as good a replacement for Lahm as anyone could ever hope for. The problem is 1) the midfield and 2) the tactics. There needs to be more speed and urgency in the midfield and you can't have the FB's pushing up so far for offense. Hell, you could even keep that risky offense if you just had some actual pace and sharpness in the offense. Then you could score more and the entire shape of the game would be different. The biggest problem is easily the midfield. They just sit on the ball for forever and a day. Huge amounts of possession and yet they do nothing with it. They've had this problem for years and yet haven't even tried to fix it. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:48 Faruko wrote: Also, how do you play this risky with only Boateng, he is way too slow. I think low needs other player for some of these positions What? Boateng is one of the fastest defenders | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:54 Charoisaur wrote: What? Boateng is one of the fastest defenders Well he looked way too slow vs Mexico, he had such a hard time being the sole defender | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:54 Charoisaur wrote: What? Boateng is one of the fastest defenders For almost any of Faruko's posts I would write the exact opposite. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:56 Faruko wrote: Well he looked way too slow vs Mexico, he had such a hard time being the sole defender He didn't look slow. He made a number of great plays. Both Hummels and Boateng played pretty well. The problem is when they are expected to be the only ones to defend a counter, it's just not going to work if you can't consistently score and put that pressure on the defending team. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 18 2018 02:07 Stratos_speAr wrote: Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield. Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade. I found this a reaction a bit funny because it feels like you just filled in the first part of your own prophecy. On June 06 2018 00:09 Stratos_speAr wrote: My prediction: Germany wins in typical German style, being questioned the whole way but winning regardless. They go on to win EURO 2020 the same exact way and cement their spot as one of the best national teams ever, dogged by constant doubters and Low skeptics. Current generation then retires from international football and the Germans dip back down to consistent semifinal exits until the next generation truly matures. | ||
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calh
537 Posts
No one was taking personal risks on the offense, no one was trying anything explosive. Always the same extra touch to control the ball, the same obvious pass. It looked like everyone was just trying to stick to what they were prescribed and passed the burden of trying (and possibly failing) to the next guy. It's easy to criticize the missed shots, but a lot of them were because the offense got bogged down by safe, stale moves until the opportunity was almost gone. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 18 2018 06:15 Rebs wrote: I found this a reaction a bit funny because it feels like you just filled in the first part of your own prophecy. I was predicting unconvincing wins a-la 2014. Not this pathetic shit show. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
On June 18 2018 18:24 Pandemona wrote: Doesn't matter how you start a World Cup, but how you finish! That being said it is always nice to win the first game so in game 3 you can rotate a bit if you have to! Squad rotation has never helped anyone get far in a Tournament. Still baffles me how this is a thing | ||
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