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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 17 2018 16:59 GMT
#181
On June 18 2018 01:57 Faruko wrote:
They have some really good players, but honestly, i thinl they lack Klose NO JOKE, that dude was a commander on the field

They lack Khedira from 2014. He was doing all the defensive job but he is nowhere close what he used to be. They have a huge hole in midfield.

Maybe shouldve gotten Weigl next to Kroos idk.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 17 2018 16:59 GMT
#182
they missed full backs that would actually get back on defense
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 17 2018 16:59 GMT
#183
On June 18 2018 01:58 mahrgell wrote:
Talk about the Netherlands doesn't belong in this subforum!

in before an angry KBB bans us all
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
June 17 2018 17:00 GMT
#184
On June 18 2018 01:59 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 01:56 TheNewEra wrote:
I doubt everyones football knowledge who thinks we should have played someone like Sane here

Sane could have give Germany that extra creativity, hardly the end all be all change in this game, but as of now, it looks like Germany lacks one that breaks the mold... Like Gotze did 4 years ago IMO


Götze hasnt broken anything 4 years ago
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 17 2018 17:00 GMT
#185
On June 18 2018 01:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 01:57 Faruko wrote:
They have some really good players, but honestly, i thinl they lack Klose NO JOKE, that dude was a commander on the field


No, they miss schweinsteiger

he was too busy trying to lead Chicago to the World Cup. Doesn't have time for Germany
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-17 17:02:00
June 17 2018 17:01 GMT
#186
On June 18 2018 01:59 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 01:56 TheNewEra wrote:
I doubt everyones football knowledge who thinks we should have played someone like Sane here

Sane could have give Germany that extra creativity, hardly the end all be all change in this game, but as of now, it looks like Germany lacks one that breaks the mold... Like Gotze did 4 years ago IMO

Playing someone who produces more turnovers than completed passes against a counterattacking team is suicide in my opinion.

For German NT even Younes > Sane
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 17 2018 17:01 GMT
#187
On June 18 2018 01:59 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 01:56 TheNewEra wrote:
I doubt everyones football knowledge who thinks we should have played someone like Sane here

Sane could have give Germany that extra creativity, hardly the end all be all change in this game, but as of now, it looks like Germany lacks one that breaks the mold... Like Gotze did 4 years ago IMO

Sane is not creative, he is just fast. And I dont see at all how this would be such a huge asset given how the game played out with Mexico standing deep.
Off-season = best season
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 17 2018 17:01 GMT
#188
On June 18 2018 02:00 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 01:59 sharkie wrote:
On June 18 2018 01:57 Faruko wrote:
They have some really good players, but honestly, i thinl they lack Klose NO JOKE, that dude was a commander on the field


No, they miss schweinsteiger

he was too busy trying to lead Chicago to the World Cup. Doesn't have time for Germany
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39447260


right now his chance of doing that is probably higher than germany's
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 17 2018 17:02 GMT
#189
On June 18 2018 02:01 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 01:59 Faruko wrote:
On June 18 2018 01:56 TheNewEra wrote:
I doubt everyones football knowledge who thinks we should have played someone like Sane here

Sane could have give Germany that extra creativity, hardly the end all be all change in this game, but as of now, it looks like Germany lacks one that breaks the mold... Like Gotze did 4 years ago IMO

Playing someone who produces more turnovers than completed passes against a counterattacking team is suicide in my opinion.

For German NT even Younes > Sane


Wow now that's damning! Haha.
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
June 17 2018 17:03 GMT
#190
this is all part of a strategy i believe. Germany wants to get the easy walkover Brasil in the round of 16
rawr
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 17 2018 17:05 GMT
#191
that was just super poor play from us :/
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 17 2018 17:07 GMT
#192
Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield.

Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
June 17 2018 17:10 GMT
#193
On June 18 2018 02:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield.

Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade.


haha, you are the only one who has criticised him in the last 6 years. He won the world cup 4 years ago. You cant criticise someone winning that
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
June 17 2018 17:10 GMT
#194
I thought the tears will be delicious but outside I only hear 'mexico' screams :O
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 17 2018 17:12 GMT
#195
On June 18 2018 02:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield.

Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade.


he took over in 2006? he has gotten top 3 every major tournament if im not wrong
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 17 2018 17:14 GMT
#196
On June 18 2018 02:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield.

Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade.


EC08: final
WC10: semifinal
EC12: semifinal
WC14: winner
EC16: semifinal

Yep, you are right. LOL

Yes, people are criticizing Löw for a decade, and imho for good reason in many cases. But if anything speaks for him it is simply one thing: He gets results.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-17 17:14:45
June 17 2018 17:14 GMT
#197
On June 18 2018 02:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield.

Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade.

If he did what you propose Löw would be trashed in germany. I have not seen any expert here that suggested anything close to that. The starting 11 in Germany is pretty clear cut, there is not much room for changes.
And your last sentence rather sounds like a troll. Germany has generally overperformed relative to the value of the team. They have the same market value as England for example. Them going out in groups for once would be statistically perfectly normal.
Off-season = best season
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 17 2018 17:17 GMT
#198
On June 18 2018 02:14 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 02:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Germany needs to bench Khedira and Ozil. I'd start Gundogan over Khedira at this point and do some combination of Reus/Muller/Brandt/Draxler. I feel like Reus-Muller-Brandt would perform much better than this midfield.

Low has been criticized for at least 6 years and for very good reason. He's too rigid and sticks to players and tactics even when it's clear that they aren't the optimal strategy. At this rate, Germany is going to get 2nd in the group, get knocked out by Brazil in the RO16, and Germany needs to hand Low his walking papers. He's been consistently under-performing with the talent on this team for nearly a decade.


EC08: final
WC10: semifinal
EC12: semifinal
WC14: winner
EC16: semifinal

Yep, you are right. LOL

Yes, people are criticizing Löw for a decade, and imho for good reason in many cases. But if anything speaks for him it is simply one thing: He gets results.

so what you're saying he only won 20% of the time? gotta get that 5-0 tournament win record brah
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 17 2018 17:18 GMT
#199
I think he should realize that Ozil is a no go, but that's about it.

Maybe Khedira also but not sure.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
June 17 2018 17:21 GMT
#200
I'm just hoping Löw starts with a different line-up next match. Clearly didn't work this time around.
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