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On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison
That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship
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On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship
Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it
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On February 27 2018 08:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it
Eh maybe but this was a real test of her stability in a long tournament run and once again she went down that one was not a true measure of where she needs to be. She does not travel well.
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On February 27 2018 08:47 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 08:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it Eh maybe but this was a real test of her stability in a long tournament run and once again she went down that one was not a true measure of where she needs to be. She does not travel well.
She doesn't travel well, but even the best players tend to not win two tournaments in a row. Give her at least GSL before we start with this kind of thing
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On February 27 2018 10:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 08:47 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 08:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it Eh maybe but this was a real test of her stability in a long tournament run and once again she went down that one was not a true measure of where she needs to be. She does not travel well. She doesn't travel well, but even the best players tend to not win two tournaments in a row. Give her at least GSL before we start with this kind of thing
There’s a difference between winning the tournament and bombing out before the actual tournament begins. There doesn’t seem to be much middle ground with her, and we unfortunately usually end up with the latter.
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On February 27 2018 10:41 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 10:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:47 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 08:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it Eh maybe but this was a real test of her stability in a long tournament run and once again she went down that one was not a true measure of where she needs to be. She does not travel well. She doesn't travel well, but even the best players tend to not win two tournaments in a row. Give her at least GSL before we start with this kind of thing There’s a difference between winning the tournament and bombing out before the actual tournament begins. There doesn’t seem to be much middle ground with her, and we unfortunately usually end up with the latter.
So she'll win GSL, confirmed :D
Also being one game away from the main tournament is hardly bombing out.
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Yeah this wasn't bombing out. Disappointing to be sure, but she was top 4 in her bracket, putting her in the top 30 or so for the tournament. Not great by any stretch, but do remember that True was in the top-8 for WCS last year. This was like losing to Elazer or Serral or Special. She can def. beat them, and has beat them, but they can also beat her.
And I mean come on. She's top 8 in GSL and won a best of 7 against SoS.... I don't think any foreigner even won a best of FIVE against a Korean opponent last year, let alone seven.
So yeah, I'm bummed for this result, but good heavens she still played well overall and has still turned her game up a notch this year, especially when playing in Korea.
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Always nice to see people being realistic while also radiating positive energy in the FC, two things that I'm always a big fan of seeing together.
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On February 27 2018 11:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 10:41 Solar424 wrote:On February 27 2018 10:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:47 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 08:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:On February 27 2018 06:06 Solar424 wrote:
IEM PC and GSL were supposed to be the confidence-builders for Katowice. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't make them immune to criticism. Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it Eh maybe but this was a real test of her stability in a long tournament run and once again she went down that one was not a true measure of where she needs to be. She does not travel well. She doesn't travel well, but even the best players tend to not win two tournaments in a row. Give her at least GSL before we start with this kind of thing There’s a difference between winning the tournament and bombing out before the actual tournament begins. There doesn’t seem to be much middle ground with her, and we unfortunately usually end up with the latter. So she'll win GSL, confirmed :D Also being one game away from the main tournament is hardly bombing out.
She had to be in the tournament to bomb out of it
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On February 27 2018 12:26 TOIHOIs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 10:41 Solar424 wrote:On February 27 2018 10:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:47 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 08:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 08:28 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 07:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 27 2018 07:27 William paradise wrote:On February 27 2018 06:53 HotDOSBuns wrote:
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Of course it doesn't, and it is a shame about how these brackets went but all we can do and all Scarlett can do is move on and focus on the next goal. If being a lifelong hockey fan has taught me anything it's that it's not worth it, as a fan, to get worked up about the losses and brood in the despair of it. Let's look at the positives, the things she did well, and get some good energy going. This account is lemony fresh but I'm not new here. I know it can get awfully bleak after a Scarlett loss, and yeah it feels bad and sometimes you just want to shake her and scream: "WIN, DAMN YOU, WIN", but that's not good for anybody. You're right, no one is immune to criticism (or should be), but maybe a positive outlook is the better path here, that's all I'm saying. I get what your saying here but after so long of waiting and seeing the potential from when she first appeared and then finally seeing it might come to frutious then come crashing back down it is harder than before. Yea were just fans and its most defiantly harder on her it still hurts. She has gsl sure but it seems maybe were going back to when she beats players but not get to the top. Its like the clevend browns your fan's because there your home team but there never going to win any championships. Except for that one time like two weeks ago. Not really a good comparison That was like winning a wildcard match not a real championship Maybe in your mind, I think most people count it Eh maybe but this was a real test of her stability in a long tournament run and once again she went down that one was not a true measure of where she needs to be. She does not travel well. She doesn't travel well, but even the best players tend to not win two tournaments in a row. Give her at least GSL before we start with this kind of thing There’s a difference between winning the tournament and bombing out before the actual tournament begins. There doesn’t seem to be much middle ground with her, and we unfortunately usually end up with the latter. So she'll win GSL, confirmed :D Also being one game away from the main tournament is hardly bombing out. She had to be in the tournament to bomb out of it
Touché. Scarlett wasn't even in the tournament.
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On what world are these brackets "not part of the tournament"? They don't set up all this production, bring in everyone a week early for something that is "not part of the tournament".
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They "joking"
What they mean is that this was to qualify for the main tournament.
So in a sense since Scarlett didn't qualify for the main tournament they joked that she didn't failed to perform in the main tournament.
Hope it helps, it hard to explain twisting of words and puns.
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The NW5 ballot is out, no scarlett 
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I've been watching GSL since season 1. I can't even count the number of times that top tier players got knocked out early in tournaments. It's a numbers game; that's bound to happen from time to time. To all of this weird nihilism about Scarlett and underperforming expectations... she's already done more than 99.8% of SC2 players will ever dream of doing. Is it fun to see her get the top spot at tournaments? Hell yeah. Is it somehow her responsibility to fulfill that fantasy for all of us? Nah. I get the whole "she's not above criticism" comment earlier, but, I mean, at least make sure the criticisms are centered around the content of her play (e.g., "I think she could've put more pressure on in the early game," or "She was playing too careful"), not "Man, she really just can't seem to pull it off." What does that accomplish? It seems more like whining than anything else.
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On February 28 2018 01:21 argonautdice wrote:The NW5 ballot is out, no scarlett
No Shasha to vote for *single tear* but there are a lot of other players we know who could use a few votes I'm sure. http://nationwars.tv/vote
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On February 28 2018 02:07 corsive26 wrote:
I've been watching GSL since season 1. I can't even count the number of times that top tier players got knocked out early in tournaments. It's a numbers game; that's bound to happen from time to time. To all of this weird nihilism about Scarlett and underperforming expectations... she's already done more than 99.8% of SC2 players will ever dream of doing. Is it fun to see her get the top spot at tournaments? Hell yeah. Is it somehow her responsibility to fulfill that fantasy for all of us? Nah. I get the whole "she's not above criticism" comment earlier, but, I mean, at least make sure the criticisms are centered around the content of her play (e.g., "I think she could've put more pressure on in the early game," or "She was playing too careful"), not "Man, she really just can't seem to pull it off." What does that accomplish? It seems more like whining than anything else.
It is criticism of her play if she doesn't travel or prepare well for a tournament. This as been a on going thing for her since she became a pro. I cheer and hope for her all the best in the world. And so what if she has done more then 99 percent she is playing for championships and that hasn't come about. This isn't about winning here or there its about winning constantly.
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Scarlett plays alot and it mostly strong tournaments at that.
Scarlett could play less and prepare only for the largest tournaments, maybe get better results in those and give the illusion of doing well.
She could also play alot more but pick weaker tournaments where she clearly the favorite, winning tons of tournaments maybe undefeated even.
Personaly I think it great she playing so much and against so strong opponents... she doing strong performances even when don't win.
It not that clear she trying to play to show that she already amoung the best in the world, perhaps she pitch herself against the top over and over again is to evolve and learn to get there.
Perhaps she playing mostly for fun.
Perhaps she playing waiting on a set date when she going to go back to school and get a new profession.
But maybe she actually trying to become the best in the world and all these events you think she underperforming in is just practice for her to take her play to balance on a edge she will need the day she begins to win against the best constantly.
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On February 28 2018 03:19 GothGirlGames wrote:
Scarlett plays alot and it mostly strong tournaments at that.
Scarlett could play less and prepare only for the largest tournaments, maybe get better results in those and give the illusion of doing well.
She could also play alot more but pick weaker tournaments where she clearly the favorite, winning tons of tournaments maybe undefeated even.
Personaly I think it great she playing so much and against so strong opponents... she doing strong performances even when don't win.
It not that clear she trying to play to show that she already amoung the best in the world, perhaps she pitch herself against the top over and over again is to evolve and learn to get there.
Perhaps she playing mostly for fun.
Perhaps she playing waiting on a set date when she going to go back to school and get a new profession.
But maybe she actually trying to become the best in the world and all these events you think she underperforming in is just practice for her to take her play to balance on a edge she will need the day she begins to win against the best constantly.
If she is doing this for just fun then she needs to guit she then is taking money and presage from more deserving players if she waiting for something else same thing. And if these are just practice then she needs to change the practice because in the seven years it hasn't produced results.
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On February 28 2018 04:22 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2018 03:19 GothGirlGames wrote:
Scarlett plays alot and it mostly strong tournaments at that.
Scarlett could play less and prepare only for the largest tournaments, maybe get better results in those and give the illusion of doing well.
She could also play alot more but pick weaker tournaments where she clearly the favorite, winning tons of tournaments maybe undefeated even.
Personaly I think it great she playing so much and against so strong opponents... she doing strong performances even when don't win.
It not that clear she trying to play to show that she already amoung the best in the world, perhaps she pitch herself against the top over and over again is to evolve and learn to get there.
Perhaps she playing mostly for fun.
Perhaps she playing waiting on a set date when she going to go back to school and get a new profession.
But maybe she actually trying to become the best in the world and all these events you think she underperforming in is just practice for her to take her play to balance on a edge she will need the day she begins to win against the best constantly. If she is doing this for just fun then she needs to guit she then is taking money and presage from more deserving players if she waiting for something else same thing. And if these are just practice then she needs to change the practice because in the seven years it hasn't produced results.
She juuuuuuuuuust won an IEM. Why now is everyone getting so negative? That's usually my job
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she tied up with soo at this tournament - both failed :D
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