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On January 15 2015 09:03 William paradise wrote:
you know damnit im just mad jesus i know its her life and everything and i truly hope nothing is wrong with her mentally or physically but if she even had a doubt about playing she shouldnt have had sighned up.,
wow dude relax, you speak like she HAS to play for you. Nothing has to be wrong with her, maybe she couldn't make it, or just didn't want to play anymore.. who knows. We are all sad she didnt play, but let her do whatever she wants in peace
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what the fuck, why are you talking about depression now? you guys are the most pessimist fans I ever saw (William & SGTK)
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On January 15 2015 09:25 Yhamm wrote:
what the fuck, why are you talking about depression now? you guys are the most pessimist fans I ever saw (William & SGTK)
Worry is pessimistic now? I understand what you're saying though. We are both making a bigger deal out of this than we should be. Hell, there's on qualifier left 
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On January 15 2015 09:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've said so much on this whole thing I don't even fear being redundant anymore.
I've basically lost a job due to depression and a bad mentality before, I wouldn't want to see someone with a way cooler job than I had do the same. If this is what it is, I hope she seeks help and talks to someone about it.
well iv pretty lost in life due to depression and related disorders including being very and i mean very anti-social behavior in as sofar that i have had over 100 jobs not because i wasnt up to doing them but my mental state it truly is a terrifying thing to go though and honestly i have no idea how iam going to keep going on though life like this but just have to keep on i guess. this prolly doesnt make much sense o well.
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On January 15 2015 09:24 mancho87 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 09:03 William paradise wrote:
you know damnit im just mad jesus i know its her life and everything and i truly hope nothing is wrong with her mentally or physically but if she even had a doubt about playing she shouldnt have had sighned up., wow dude relax, you speak like she HAS to play for you. Nothing has to be wrong with her, maybe she couldn't make it, or just didn't want to play anymore.. who knows. We are all sad she didnt play, but let her do whatever she wants in peace
never said she did but she was implying she would be playing in the qualifier and hell she can and should do whatevr she wants but to say your retiring after your last game and then sign up for the next one giving hope to her fans then yea i would say i have a little leeway to be kinda upset.
and lets be honest she is a or was a professional athlete she does have a certain responsibility to her fans. she was getting paid to do what she enjoyed doing and that partly came from us yea from us as from the ads and the games we watched.
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maybe she`ll do say anything about it here like some explanations or something like that i don`t know...and that`s not even about she can`t play...erbody knows like she said it befo` due to lost a passion n` that`s it but why she wrote thing like "ok fellas i`ll try to do something serious play cuz probably it`ll be my swan song on sc2" n` then droppin a fuckin check-in...really i write this right now n` laugh but this is a way more sad than funny...
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I was looking forward to watching Scarlett's undefeated path into WCS. Now I'll have to do something productive >.>
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I think it's fair that we should be a little upset that she didn't play. Personally, I planned my day around this qualifier so that I could see her compete. I understand that it's her life, but she shouldn't say (confidently) that she's going to win a qualifier and then not compete at all.
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There is still one more qualifier, perhaps some personal issue came up (such as family, or just bad net) that didn't allow her to compete. I understand why the talk about mental illness (i.e depression) is taking place, but we shouldn't act so rashly to jump to that conclusion immediately.
Also it could be that she just has no desire to play anymore, despite what she has said, and that happens..
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yea your right anything could have come up that prevented her from playing and yea i jumped the gun most likely just was so looking forward to watching tonight, i just got alittle heated and sad. my apoligizes to the club and Scarlett
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I think the big question now is will she switch to another game and try to play professionally (hopefully she does), or will she leave the scene and go to school for computer science (programming emphasis), or something else. Honestly I really just hope she's happy over-all. Nobody should have to live their life according to what anything other than what their heart tells them (in accordance with the law and needs of a currency based economy etc, yes there is a certain reality we adhere to).
Also, SetGuitarsToKill -- I've been hesitant to say this because I don't want to be rude, but sometimes I feel like your passion for Scarlett is a little... unhealthy. I mean, you honestly started sounding pretty creepy about a week ago. Try to remember that Scarlett is probably not enjoying her "awesome" job if she barely has the passion to compete anymore. What looks awesome to you may not be awesome to other people who have to live the life. They're the ones who are putting in the blood sweat and tears trying to overcome the Korean mega-structure. All that glitters isn't gold, trust me on that. I was in a certain unit in the Army that you may have seen in particular movie that was pretty popular at one point in time. A lot of people think that that job is "awesome" or "super fun," but in reality it consisted of 36 hour stress tests during which I would carry between 50 and 120lbs of gear 12 miles while stopping at weapons proficiency stations, hallucinating under all-green nightvision which slowly drives you crazy after 5 hours of wearing it while sleep deprived, then going overseas and having to climb on roofs at 2am and hoping someone doesn't pot-shot you or your bros in the neck from a building down the street. Yet if you said to many Americans, "if you push this button you can immediately be in this unit, want to push it?" probably a huge percent of males under 30 would say "fuck yeah!" Among those of us who pass the training and enter the unit, 2/3 are gone less than 2 years later. I was one who put my resignation in. I couldn't handle the constant stress and pace and lack of free time (although I did find the danger exhilarating). I went to the regular Army and guarded a Colonel for the rest of my time, then got out and now I study computer science and am seriously 2,000% happier than I ever was in that "awesome" unit. I have a cat now; I couldn't have a cat before. I have over 400 books now, and the time to read them; I couldn't have that before. I have a relationship with my family again, which barely existed before (I lived across the country). I missed 3/4 Christmases, my cousin's wedding, my brother's graduation from college, four summers at our beloved lake hours with my best friends (times they love which I still hear about, and they still say 'Wish you were there!'). I talk to my brother every day now, which I couldn't do before. I've grown exponentially in this new, more laid back environment, because it's functioning almost like an introspective monk's cave or some such thing. It's just so beneficial to me. I was not as close to self-actualization before I started on this new path, period. That "super awesome" unit, it just wasn't the right fit for me, you see? Things that look really stellar and special and wonderful from the outside can in reality demand so much of your time and spirit that there comes a point where you simply cannot give anymore unless you truly love it more than most other things in life, including your future options. There is a saying in the Army that soldiers use in a sad manner when they miss their wives: "I'm married to the Army." That is the similarity between Scarlett's current lifestyle and my old one; that extreme amount of time and energy it demands to make the grade. Please try to take this point to heart and not judge Scarlett during this time when she seems to be planning her next move. I personally don't envy pro-gamers at all. I can't imagine all the hours they put in all alone or with friends condensed into text windows, grinding away, only to receive such little payoff. The big wins are so few and far between that they provide little reward unless you're dominating. For this reason, players have to love the grinding away itself, which requires a love of the game. Love of the game is kept alive through for example team-houses in Korea, which make practice more fun. It's kept alive through being able to use something other than swarmhosts all the time. When passion for the game dies out, pro-gamers inevitably leave. Idra. Naniwa. And others.
I know you may go all "I doubt your commitment to 'Sparkle Motion'" on me, but that's really not the case. You've just gotten really creepy all of a sudden. I'm trying to get you back to reality. You can't project all of your needs for an LGBT hero(ine) and companion onto Scarlett. There are plenty of other LGBT hero(ines) out there to go along with her. And please stop telling her she's making a mistake by leaving SC2, because you're saying that for the sole purpose of keeping her in the game for your viewing pleasure. Leaving may well be the best decision she's ever made in her life.
As for worrying about her mental health, she appears to have a very strong and supportive family who is there for her. Your idea that if she sees a psychologist she'll decide to keep playing SC2 is actually kind of strange.
In time, she'll choose what is right for her.
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Well Brie, you make some good points. I never thought about it really from a "stress" perspective. I can see how being forced to perform super well at the top level to stay relevant in your career can be a hugely stressful ordeal. I myself don't deal well, and it's understandable if someone is just tired of it. And from a persepctive of progaming being too time-consuming, that makes sense as well, even though a full time normal job can feel almost as much so IMO.
I'll also agree that I've been getting a little bit "creepy" lately. I can only offer forgiveness for this. I have saw this in myself too. It's hard to lose someone who you kind of see as an idol, but what I think should have absolutely no bearing on what she does. I only post what I do to offer perhaps a different perspective. And I do stand by what I have said, not everyone may agree and I probably sounds like an asshole, but it's still what I think. I don't say what I say from a greedy perspective of wanting her to stay (mostly), but I undertand how it can be taken that way. I speak from an outsider and admiriers perspecitve, so I can't know anything though. I hope for the best for her no matter what. I don't "judge" her for wanting out, I am just a desperate fan who thinks she might be making a mistake and hope she makes the right choice. I'm sorry for coming off as creepy, I'll just stop now.
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On January 15 2015 10:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Well Brie, you make some good points. I never thought about it really from a "stress" perspective. I can see how being forced to perform super well at the top level to stay relevant in your career can be a hugely stressful ordeal. I myself don't deal well, and it's understandable if someone is just tired of it. And from a persepctive of progaming being too time-consuming, that makes sense as well, even though a full time normal job can feel almost as much so IMO.
I'll also agree that I've been getting a little bit "creepy" lately. I can only offer forgiveness for this. I have saw this in myself too. It's hard to lose someone who you kind of see as an idol, but what I think should have absolutely no bearing on what she does. I only post what I do to offer perhaps a different perspective. And I do stand by what I have said, not everyone may agree and I probably sounds like an asshole, but it's still what I think. I don't say what I say from a greedy perspective of wanting her to stay (mostly), but I undertand how it can be taken that way. I speak from an outsider and admiriers perspecitve, so I can't know anything though. I hope for the best for her no matter what.
Cool man  I really only want everyone to be happy. I'm hoping my post will help people understand how someone might burn out, or need a break, or take time think about things and all that. There's a lot that comes into play. I remember starting college at 23, thinking "Damn, all my friends have already graduated..." That may be on her mind as well, as her father is a university professor and Scarlett is (frankly) gifted and may want to enter academia. Also, if we think of all the famous rock bands, almost all of them have a song or two about how hard life is out on the road.
This link provides a decent starting list: http://classicrock.about.com/od/toppickslists/tp/toursongs.htm
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I know Scarlett has a lot on her mind, but she's also not doing her fans any favors by sending such mixed messages and acting so erratically. I mentioned this earlier, but just saying "hey guys, sorry for not playing because I'm still working things out, will be in touch soon" would be enough.
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On January 15 2015 11:03 BrieFanFiction wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 10:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Well Brie, you make some good points. I never thought about it really from a "stress" perspective. I can see how being forced to perform super well at the top level to stay relevant in your career can be a hugely stressful ordeal. I myself don't deal well, and it's understandable if someone is just tired of it. And from a persepctive of progaming being too time-consuming, that makes sense as well, even though a full time normal job can feel almost as much so IMO.
I'll also agree that I've been getting a little bit "creepy" lately. I can only offer forgiveness for this. I have saw this in myself too. It's hard to lose someone who you kind of see as an idol, but what I think should have absolutely no bearing on what she does. I only post what I do to offer perhaps a different perspective. And I do stand by what I have said, not everyone may agree and I probably sounds like an asshole, but it's still what I think. I don't say what I say from a greedy perspective of wanting her to stay (mostly), but I undertand how it can be taken that way. I speak from an outsider and admiriers perspecitve, so I can't know anything though. I hope for the best for her no matter what. Cool man I really only want everyone to be happy. I'm hoping my post will help people understand how someone might burn out, or need a break, or take time think about things and all that. There's a lot that comes into play. I remember starting college at 23, thinking "Damn, all my friends have already graduated..." That may be on her mind as well, as her father is a university professor and Scarlett is (frankly) gifted and may want to enter academia. Also, if we think of all the famous rock bands, almost all of them have a song or two about how hard life is out on the road. This link provides a decent starting list: http://classicrock.about.com/od/toppickslists/tp/toursongs.htm
I still see things from a different perspective, but I pick up what you're laying down. I totally. 100% understand needing a break to think things over. It's my personal opinion that in many (not all, obvoiusly) career paths getting a university education is overrated, and doesn't need to be started early if at all, but I forgot her father's profession and can see how not going that route might not really be an option. Really, she has all the reasons to retire, but as I said before, what I said still applies, my opinions on the matter haven't changed fully.. And it's of course, all influenced by my experiences in life, which are very different than anyone else's.
And it's fucking weird that you post that list which has "Turn the Page" on it, which is one of my favorite songs ever. I never thought about it in a progaming context though. It actually works pretty well.
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Looks like Scarlett and Naniwa do have something in common : internet people groundlessly speculating on their mental health.
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Oh my god. Guys, how about we just wait a little bit until we can hear something from Scarlett, before we make more conspiracy theories?
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Wow. The things you read when you wake up oO
William, she said "next one" which can also mean 4th qualifier or any of the qualifiers next year. Or maybe she couldn't play because of something else that came in between unexpectedly.
Sgtk, I don't think she is suffering from depressions - how did you even jump to that conclusion so fast oO
what if she decides not to play the 4th either, will we need to call the ambulance for anyone? Plz; if she doesn't enjoy she doesn't have to play, even if she promises, yea, she has the right to change her mind.
I strongly agree with Brie, he put it perfectly- she doesn't have to stay in the game for our viewing pleasure.
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no your right she doesnt and i dont think i have said that and yea i shouldnt have said most what i did i do apologize for it, just from my perceptive i see her has some one to look up to for the way she has handle all that she gone though and made a good life for herself myself i have never looked at anyone that way before it may be unfair to her to put that on her, and if she is still reading the page Sasha from truly all my heart i wish you all the best in whatever you do you,
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