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On August 31 2019 16:38 Elentos wrote:
Well he made it to the Ro8. He beat herO. But I'm not a fan of how he loses every match he plays against Trap. He used to never lose to him by just playing more solid. His cheesy style he's been playing since last year doesn't really get him through those matches. Their series record has actually gone from 14-4 in favor of TY to 16-12 in favor of TY ever since the proxy meta kicked in.
Now he's got a bit of time to figure out builds he can beat Dark with. It's been a long time since he's done it. Dark looked vulnerable late game on Wednesday but I don't think it'll happen again.
Also I suppose right now if Classic can't go to Blizzcon TY would be in, that's something.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the style he played against Trap either, although it did seem like Trap got lucky with a bunch of things. It's weird too. Finally the emp is really powerful and when the maps are so big it's odd that TY doesn't go for the late game. His Ro4 would have been almost certain had he won the group, now he gets to enjoy the pleasure of playing vs blord/infester on giant maps against Dark will surely be looking much more solid than he did in the Ro16. And Dark is no slouch at the preparation format either.
Well, I guess we just have to hope that he plays with honour and shows good games, maybe it will somehow happen anyway. And there is still the super tournament, he is likely going to be in a decent spot before that so it might not take a lot to push him over the line.
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Other side of the bracket would have been perfect for him with TvT into probably TvT.
Let's see if he can make the series good at least. I don't see him winning, but maybe he can make it close.
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Yes that lined up more or less perfectly, he really needed to take out Trap there.
Really hoping for some good games, let's see him pull out some of his vintage stuff. And that he doesn't insist on going lategame no matter what. If for some odd reason Dark is still in that shaky state from the Ro16, he can definitely take it.
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With all this silly foreigner starcraft out of the way it's almost time. Pretty much all or nothing for the 2019 season. Can he play like Keen?
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I'm also a bit worried because he's been so vocal about how BS he thinks Zerg is that his mindset is gonna be in a bad place before the games even start.
I hope he can channel some of that energy KeeN's had this season. I don't know what magic potion he found but he's been playing awesome.
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Yea that defeatism has often seemed like his worst enemy, both while playing but also in the preparation in his choice of strategies ("Protoss OP so might as well just pull the bois").
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It was a great attempt with the inevitable result. Now hoping for him to not suck for once in Super Tournament.
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My assessment of each game:
Game 1 Dark just played him like a fiddle. Knowing that TY would eventually start thor production to pre-empt broods, he goes into a lot of lurkers which are nice against clunky units like cyclones and thors. They suck against tanks, so he got TY to go up to 20 of those with hardly any anti-air to counter broods. The finishing touches were put on that by TY just taking a lot of unnecessary damage on his vikings from spellcasters.
Game 2 was a really fun and entertaining game and I wish more games had been like it. TY's struggle to finish Dark off and Dark's tenacity though meant that this was the game that convinced me TY would ultimately lose the series.
Game 3 started off really promising and then went to shit very quickly. Shame, I think this was the most unnecessary loss.
Game 4 was fun and weird. He probably caught Dark at just about the perfect timing to push through for the win. A lot more decisive than how TY usually plays.
Game 5 had a lot of brilliant little moments, especially from TY. Abusing complete lack of non-queen anti-air by doom dropping outlying bases. DROPPING A TANK ON THE ISLAND BASE TO HARASS DARK'S WORKERS. The tank push through the corridor that Dark couldn't do anything against except sack his 4th. At the end of the day though, the forgotten armory was a crucial error. I don't think Dark could have defended a 2/2 timing that game. Somewhat regrettable. Once the game got to late game, it was pretty obvious Dark had it. Cobalt is not ideal for late game scenarios as Terran, you spread yourself very thin.
Overall this was really about as good an attempt as could be expected. Few less mistakes and he can even take the series. Compared to their S3 series from 2017, this was leaps and bounds better.
For his Blizzcon dream that's very unfortunate, but TY can't let that bring him down. He's got to go into the Super Tournament looking to take names and make WCS points. He can't just hope for Classic to drop out now. He has to outperform people in this weekender for once in his life.
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It's great to have some in depth talk about his matches in here!
I also thought he had a good showing and the games were a lot more entertaining than the TvZ we're used to (the Maru-Rag series too, bio is just so much more fun to watch, thanks Korean Zergs for going ultras, I always did suspect that it were the evil foreigners that ruined our fun game  ). We got to see the classic TY style so it was an okay match even though it sucks that we in all likelihood won't see him at blizzcon for the first time of LotV.
I would add that in general the problem playing against Dark is just that he is unbelievably good at not taking economic damage in the early game. Even when TY catches him off guard he still manages to lose barely any workers at all and instead just trade some army in. It's so difficult to get ahead of him. And in the mid- and lategame the combination of nydus and ling runby makes it so difficult to push out, as we saw several times. The current state of the game is just very well suited for a macro zerg like Dark.
As for TY, I think he in general had some problems with setting up his siege units in this series. Several times the engagements take place when he hasn't pre-sieged or when his bio is not far enough ahead of the siege zones.
About the games, yeah that game 3 was painful. Just letting his 5th die to roaches without even lifting off is a massive mistake. If he had simply saved that and walked his army home after smashing the zerg 4th he should have just won from there. Perhaps losing that made him feel like he had to do more, then he just lost his army to the reinforcements and returning roaches.
Game 4, I must say is mainly a throw from Dark. Had he just brought his ling/bane flood home after seeing TY all-in, I think he holds without problem. I dunno, I think it was actually a quite typical move from TY: "I'm so far behind now so I'll just yolo it and see what happens". But I guess at times he also responds to such situations by going all-out greedy. Perhaps that was what Dark expected considering his move.
Game 5, well that was about as Cobalt Hype as it gets  He was so well prepared for that map and had all these sweet moves and it should have gone down as all time classic where TY takes it in the end. Alas, the brilliance was mixed with some misses that became crucial. The forgotten armory, of course, but also that he doesn't build turrets on his island base to defend the corruptors, or putting two tanks there instead of a single Thor. The repair was even late. But yeah, the Terran probably needs to have a decent lead on that map to be able to take a 5th.
In conclusion, TY should always be part of tournaments right down to the end for the sake of the viewers and the game itself
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I mean by the time Dark went to the island base in game 5 TY was already dead anyway. In game 4 the counter-attack was what put TY all-in in the first place. His army was a lot bigger and he was ahead in upgrades. People overstate how behind TY was, way bigger comebacks have happened. And clearly Dark didn't want to fight him on open ground yet. But I don't think he ever expected TY to just stim in to win. Especially funny with where Dark put the bane nest.
In the end I think whatever he vetoed, he should have vetoed Cobalt instead of that.
Also one thing I noticed, TY's micro all series was actually really damn sick. But on the other hand, his positioning was worse than usual, he controlled his siege units worse and more slowly and he lost multiple orbitals because he didn't lift. Usually TY would have these the other way around.
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On September 14 2019 19:42 Elentos wrote:
I mean by the time Dark went to the island base in game 5 TY was already dead anyway.
That was how it went down in the end, but that base could have been crucial. Just a bit weird to have a clear plan to take that base and then not set it up properly. Would have been well defended with a Thor instead and maybe a turret.
Also one thing I noticed, TY's micro all series was actually really damn sick. But on the other hand, his positioning was worse than usual, he controlled his siege units worse and more slowly and he lost multiple orbitals because he didn't lift. Usually TY would have these the other way around.
Yeah that is true, in the engagements as well as the harass. I guess that can make sense but he should never have lost that many CCs because of attention to micro.
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One thing I liked though from this GSL Ro8 and also WCS is the fact that drilling claw mines are making a comeback. It's a lot more exciting than to watch either a bio/tank force blast through everything or just get swallowed up by a ling/bane surround with or without vipers.
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Happy birthday to TY! May he continue blessing us with his builds and flaming Dear, Special and Rogue whenever he can.
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Well. Ragnarok and probably Solar. That would tie him with Dear. Hope his TvZ is getting even better.
Also the bracket is nice in that his competition is pretty much eliminated if he does well himself, and Gumiho will have a hard time getting to the finals through that upper bracket.
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I wouldn't rule out PartinG making it to the Ro8. He already beat Solar in the qualifier (which frankly makes it questionable how they ended up playing each other but random draw brackets is just another story entirely) and now Ragnarok in CTC.
As a whole this bracket is pretty unlucky for TY honestly. Rag isn't the worst obviously, but he's not a TvT free win either. Then there's PartinG as one of the worst nemeses of TY's career (and not in bad shape from the looks of things). Solar in his patented grandiose end of the year form where he makes one last push trying to qualify for Blizzcon but falling short close to the finish line (and Solar is probably about Dark's level against Terran these days).
To add to all that, it's the Super Tournament where we would already have to consider TY winning 3 games a veritable upset, and he needs to win 6 to have a shot at Blizzcon
It's perfectly doable if he brings his best. I just wonder if he's going to. Not even sure he believes he can still make Blizzcon.
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I don't know that it is particularly unlucky, but also not the best possible bracket. Playing Dream into Cure/Gumiho would of course be better, but he could also have gotten Classic into Stats/Dark or whatever. I would say this is kind of in the middle. Ragnarok - he just has to be able to beat him. I mean, otherwise does it even make sense for him to go to blizzcon in the first place? Solar is definitely harder, top tier ZvT for sure, let's hope he has one of those days where he loses an entire mineral line to the first hellion harass. PartinG is dangerous for sure, for reasons of their history as well as PartinG being that type of Protoss that TY struggles against. Their few matches together since PartinG's comeback don't look good either. But then again, which Protoss would he rather have played? Stats, Trap or Classic? Probably PartinG is around herO's level so he is still close to as good as TY could get in this bracket.
I guess my conclusion here is that TY is just not that strong this year, which of course also has something to do with balance and the metagames. He is going to need a strong showing and perhaps some luck to make it this time.
At least he is streaming under the headline "road to blizzcon". He is also saying that the new map-pool is really bad for terran
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On September 25 2019 23:00 sneakyfox wrote:At least he is streaming under the headline "road to blizzcon". He is also saying that the new map-pool is really bad for terran
He can make it. He can also bomb out in the first round as is tradition. We'll see next week.
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TY needs to pull off a 2017 Rogue where he wins ST2 to JUST manage to qualify for BlizzCon and win it all.
Man that would be sick 
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His build selection and execution for the first match was pretty lethal. PartinG in the next round though. I mean I think PvT is probably PartinG's worst MU atm but it is PartinG vs TY...
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