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On October 29 2016 07:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:wow thanks guys, didn't expect so many encouraging replies T_T made me view things in a better way  i really gave it my all this year but i'm not sure if i can continue practicing this much, feeling burnt out mentally and also physically. i still like to play a lot in my daily life but i'll try to adjust into a more relaxed approach now and hopefully i'll be able to improve and show fewer silly defense fail games in tournaments too
Sure thing!
If you keep playing (and I really hope you do), we'll keep having your back and cheering for you with great joy!
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On October 29 2016 07:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:wow thanks guys, didn't expect so many encouraging replies T_T made me view things in a better way i really gave it my all this year but i'm not sure if i can continue practicing this much, feeling burnt out mentally and also physically. i still like to play a lot in my daily life but i'll try to adjust into a more relaxed approach now and hopefully i'll be able to improve and show fewer silly defense fail games in tournaments too
Yeah practice can still be efficient if you play less and watch more vods/analyze replays instead for a while. Obviously it depends on people but if you can regain some energy from it and learn more stuff, off-season is the ideal time to do that :D
May i ask if your lack of scouting is a playstyle thing or just a mistake sometimes? (for example not scouting the lack of third vs stats on frozen)
The SSL champion just lost in group stages after just 2 ZvZs, doesn't mean he's anywhere close to being bad.
But in competition if there has to be winners, there has to be losers.
For a few gifted people though, they always bounce back because they're more consistent, and you're one of them as you proved time and time again :D
"Snute makes wcs winter finals but loses ro32 in Tours and Montreal? Inconsistent."
People don't know what consistent means.
You still end up 5th in the rankings (while winning a tournament in china that doesn't even give wcs points), and you're still here at the end of the year, winning copa intercontinental. If anything you're showing almost unmatched consistency throughout this year in foreignerland (i'd say 3rd after nerchio and neeb, showtime has gotten a huge point boost from Tours and Polt from katowice)
Some guys that use maybe 90% of your practice regimen don't have 20% of your career, you should be proud and remind yourself that every time you're in a slump
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Snute! you need to be proud of reaching WCS finals! Everybody can take a bad series here and there, but almost nobody can reach top 4 WCS standings. Thats IS conssitency!!!! And you have been up there at the top of the foreigner scene since forever
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Keep fighting man. To quote the great movie Rocky, "It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward."
Much love. Chin up and look toward a prosperous and great 2017 with all the lessons you have learned.
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The format is really harsh... I feel bad for every player eliminated because most couldn't even show more than one matchup or have a day to calm down a bit and prepare for the next opponent. Plus it's bo3 so it's over far too quickly.
So I can't even imagine how you felt. There has a lot of good things already said but I want to add some things even though I'm not even a member of the fanclub, nor a zerg player.
First is about how good you think you are. I usually want (especially in the past, less nowadays because some people hate on foreigners who work hard for no reason and it becomes really irritating) Koreans to win in foreigner vs koreans match ups. Especially korean terrans since I'm a T player as well and they are the ones you want to win so you can believe given sufficient practice all matchups are winnable. Most of the times, since KR players won a lot back in the days, I only feared for my favorites players when they were playing other KR players.
Except very few foreigners.
The first time was when MKP went in France for ESWC and peak form Stephano was there. I was one of the only French viewers wanting MKP to win and unfortunately it didn't happen, I was right to be scared of him since he was indeed able to beat my favorite player.
It also happened with NaNiwa even tho I was less scared.
Pretty much only them for WoL. I didn't watch much HotS since I didn't play much that extension but I still followed results and stuff. One thing striking me were your awesome performances against Starleague winners.
And then it kept going, you and Bunny were the best foreigners atm iirc, you leading the way, and the GOAT foreigner list was coming. Stephano was already retired so he couldn't have more results. But you were still playing, beating Korean champions in tournaments, which is an achievement many Starcraft players could only dream of.
So I was scared of you, I was scared that you might overtake the player whom I considered (still do) the Goat among foreigners, thus I wanted it to actually be that way (plus I'm French as well  ). And even in games after the GOAT list (these things aren't set in stone), I was scared of you when you were playing Koreans, even if I wouldn't really care normally if these KR players were losing since I don't follow P/Z very much, because I feared you might win against so many Koreans that you would become the uncontested best foreigner. And you beat a lot of them indeed.
The only other foreigners that I feared when cheering for fellow Terran players or KR, in LotV, are Nerchio and Neeb.
You are up there too. Even though you were not always performing as well as one would expect from you, you have it in you so it was more like: "will he become a monster again this match or will it be doable for the player I cheer for?". I feared for Polt in your match.
Who else has been like that? Zest. Zest has been scary good in the first season of GSL in PvT, but he had multiple failures in the following months. So much that I let my guard down and thought ByuN would beat him easily in kespa cup. What a mistake . Such players can hit an unusual low, but they shall never be underestimated, because they can recover at any moment and start beating great players again.
You are one of these players as well.
Second thing: you are humble. It can seem useless said like that but it's actually great for the viewers. For example sometimes the meta favors one race or another, and if a player you cheer for lose against such race you feel stolen as the spectator. But some players ease the pain.
You (and PtitDrogo) don't become super cocky even after beating good players and it helps, since we can't be mad at you seeing how respectful you are of your opponents, it helps not getting frustrated after seeing our favorite player be eliminated, so we are still a bit happy because it's awesome to see players like you win.
So thank you for being such a player, especially for viewers like me who are easily affected when their favorite player loses.
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You're amazing Snute. Keep fighting the good fight. All my buddies and I in Canada root for you every chance we get ever since that first amazing HSC victory back in the day. You'll bounce back
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On October 29 2016 05:54 Liquid`Snute wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2016 22:04 outscar wrote:
Snute, your broke our hearts with that, how should I call it by not being rude, 12 billion ling travesty against Drogo! It was your game, your match, your score from the very start! I don't even wanna cheer anymore :'( put yourself in my shoes having to be the guy that plays horribly like that after practicing so much when it matters the most. and then having to read this. i know exactly what you mean, because if you imagine what you said and amplify its negative emotions by x1000 and add some existential-suicidal darkness spice on top, you can maybe get somewhat close to imagining how i feel. it's not the first time. i feel incompetent at my job more often than not and it's very sad. but i'm happy to still have fans that cheer for me. At this point it's more about trying to find reasons to keep going in sc2 or in life for that matter. i failed wesg and blizzcon, the two most important things to not fail. if good gameplay on average is what you want, then I'm proven to not be the guy (despite placing top4 at a lot of tournaments this year). Try Nerchio or Neeb if you want to cheer for someone less likely to disappoint. I'm just a high level zerg that does somewhat ok on ladder and sometimes in tournaments. It's not fair to expect me to take down drogo 100% of the time, even if my ZvP is good in a lot of scenarios. apologies
Snute, you are a lot of peoples favorite zerg or player overall for more than just your results; your creativity, passion and attitude have always been top notch, and you're extremely talented. StarCraft is a hard game, and you are one of the best, don't quit.
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Hey man remember that guy that always used to watch your stream sending you private twitch messages asking what mouse dpi and ingame settings you were using before you got on a team?.. haha well thats me and im still here cheering for you. I always knew you would get on a team cause you are just damn good and here you are competing at the biggest stages and i think you went out in style i thought that game one on frost was such a cool game!..
You'rs Long time fan.. Fighting!!
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What you're feeling is what a lot of competitors feel when they pour their heart and soul into what they do. There are a lot of sports athletes that have that "I'm done with this" feeling when they lose in the playoffs. That's what the off-season is for. You're one the best Zerg players, period. In the US, the saying is "any given Sunday." That is, anything can happen, including upsets. Doesn't mean you're worse, though it can feel that way!
Take time away, relax, and enjoy other parts of life for a bit. Let the wound heal some, but don't feel discouraged. As the saying goes, it doesn't matter how many times you get knocked down. What matters is how many times you get back up.
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put yourself in my shoes having to be the guy that plays horribly like that after practicing so much when it matters the most. and then having to read this. i know exactly what you mean, because if you imagine what you said and amplify its negative emotions by x1000 and add some existential-suicidal darkness spice on top, you can maybe get somewhat close to imagining how i feel. it's not the first time. i feel incompetent at my job more often than not and it's very sad. but i'm happy to still have fans that cheer for me. At this point it's more about trying to find reasons to keep going in sc2 or in life for that matter. i failed wesg and blizzcon, the two most important things to not fail. if good gameplay on average is what you want, then I'm proven to not be the guy (despite placing top4 at a lot of tournaments this year). Try Nerchio or Neeb if you want to cheer for someone less likely to disappoint. I'm just a high level zerg that does somewhat ok on ladder and sometimes in tournaments. It's not fair to expect me to take down drogo 100% of the time, even if my ZvP is good in a lot of scenarios. apologies
Man you're easily one of my favorite players ever and it's hard to hear you talk that way. Sure you got eliminated in group stage but so will 50% of everyone that showed up. I mean Solar is already out for god's sake. So maybe you didn't play your absolute best but you deserve to feel good about making it to Blizzcon, winning in Mexico, and being absolutely one of the best players in the world.
I think you should change your mentality, if for nothing else to let yourself enjoy the game, enjoy the competition, and enjoy the fact that you're one of the best players of what is almost certainly the hardest competitive game out there. It's seems crazy to feel bad about finishing the year out at Blizzcon.
To quote Bruce Lee: "In great attempts it is glorious even to fail.”
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Snuuuuuuute we have played many times, maybe I should have given you the extra practice before blizzcon! I feel bad now for leaving a game vs you, as I was too used to getting crushed (on the other hand would a lowly zerg like me be good practice?)! <3 Wish you the best moving on.
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Snute youre the highest earning foreigner of all time (http://www.esportsearnings.com/games/151-starcraft-ii).
Your safe and clever gameplay, your attitude towards the game (you seem to genuinly enjoy playing) and towards other people has brought you many fans and im absolutely one of them.
Maybe you need to talk to somebody about your negative thoughts towards yourself, Self criticism is healthy but not when you completely trash yourself to the point where you make yourself feel like shit.
I understand that self-deprecation is a part of the motivation but too much and you hurt yourself rather than help.
As a fan I would love to see you win everything all the time of course and for WCS to be renamed to FMfS (Free Money for Snute), but noone can always 100% consistently be on top of his game in sc2 without burning out, especially not over multiple years. Its impossible considering how stressful it is. In fact I think I like you even more for it because it makes you look human and it makes it possible to grasp how much work and effort you put into the game.
There is no shame in losing, especially when opponents practice as hard as you and want the same things you do.
I really hope you dont quit but more than that I hope you do whatever feels right for you!
edit: In fact please go talk to a professional, especially if youve had dark thoughts.
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On October 28 2016 22:04 outscar wrote:
Snute, your broke our hearts with that, how should I call it by not being rude, 12 billion ling travesty against Drogo! It was your game, your match, your score from the very start! I don't even wanna cheer anymore :'(
It is not that simple, you cannot assume drogo would have played the same by massing tier 2-2.5 units if snute would have transitioned. Maybe in an alternate universe snute went into broods and drogo had good tempest count in time and snute still lost. Every player is always fighting for their lives in tournaments if they are passionate about the game. Even more so in the most prestigious tournament of the year. Players are obviously doing what they think is best. We as fans and snute himself should find peace in that regardless of the outcome of the series.
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Be kind to yourself Snute! You are an amazing player and still one of my absolute favourites!!
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Snute,
you´re one of the most loved players, and that´s not because you win EVERY MATCH, but because you seem to be a nice person - on top of, obviously, being a fantastic player.
And that won´t change because of any matches lost - just remember that, even if a loss after you´ve put in so much work must feel worse than we can imagine.
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Snute you're one of the most amusing players to watch, I have a lot of respect for you especially since you mostly take the "hard way" of die hard macro play.
This game makes me go through great highs and infuriating fits of rage. I can only imagine what that would be like for someone who reaches the top 0.1% and raises the bar ever higher for what humans can do in a fast paced multitasking game.
I'm sad to see it gets to you in a dark way, but I can totally understand. However, keep your head up high, I'm sure you can reason your way out.
파이팅! Greetings from a fan in South Korea.
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Snute,
Downplaying yourself is easy - hell, this applies to everybody, Zest, Solar, and probably everybody else would like to have achieved more and failed multiple times during the year. Praising yourself however is much harder... try it. Focus on what you did achieve.
You are a great player and I love watching you.
Cheers from a Dutch fan
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Snuuuuuuuuuuuuuute! You're 100% seriously my favourite player in sc2 of all time, simply because youre imo the most unique player. The charisma, the passion, the creativity and the handsomeness combined makes me cheer for you in every tournament you participate in. I really don't care if you do it well or not because you're simply the one I look up to.
Just play, that's all we ask of. Literally.
I made an account on here only to say this cheesy stuff, but im serious
Sincerely, your greatest fan in norway and the world for that matter
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Hello Jens! Don't let the moment following the loss overwhelm you. It is just normal to feel down, but it will pass, and you know.
Think this way, you are in the top 16 of the world in the most tough and demanding game existing. That's awesome.
What you just said you are going to do is the best! Relax and just enjoy the game.
You are great a person even before a great player, I don't enjoy a win from another player like I do when you win because of your modesty and respect for the adversary.
Stay strong!! GL HF!
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Snute, remember that you have all of Scandinavia behind you. We will be with you always, and 2017 will be your year!
Kind regards,
Mindful,
Viking TV
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