Team EG Fan Club - Page 7

On July 18 2011 11:16 Hydra3 wrote:


Ya being in Korea seems to drastically improve players, which seems to be something you would want(case in point HuK)

On July 18 2011 14:27 starcraft2rush wrote:


*cough* FXO *cough*

On July 18 2011 13:31 BadWithNames wrote:
I desperately want someone on EG to step it up. Looking back on the EG Masters Cup Season V it was pretty clear that IdrA was carrying the team. Take Machine for instance, almost always the butt of EG jokes and has been living with IdrA for a while now and still doesn't seem to be taking things too seriously. Last time I was in his stream he basically admitted to not having dedicated himself to practiced since Dallas yet he can tell you his and IdrA's workout routine and diet in 30 seconds flat. I'm a no fluff kinda guy so I'm gonna go ahead and say this is some bullshit. I only single out Machine because A) I'm a fan and B) his MLG performance showed promise.

I guess you could throw Geoff's in there as well but I personally don't trust Geoff not to expend his energy doing a multitude of things, be it coaching, reading the forums, or something else. I see him more as the team coach than an active player anyway, no insult intended as I also think that role would suit him very well.

For now with the team house looming I worry most for DeMuslim. With LZ's attendance likely to be sporadic and his switching to Zerg that leaves him as the only dedicated Terran. I'm kind of afraid he'll either be overworked, or not get as much out of it as his Zerg/Protoss teammates from the idea bouncing and feedback standpoint. Scoots hates it when people say things like this but he should look into piking up another Terran.

There are far too many promises coming out of the EG House. Incontrol promises things will be different, Scoots is promising tons of content. Frankly I don't want promises, I want results. I don't want one single minute spent on a Fragmore University or anything else if it comes at the expense of practice or even risks posing as a distraction. While I'm ranting I'll go ahead and say that streaming needs to stay off the to do list as well. It gives away builds, thought processes, and even though "ladder/streaming doesn't matter" people still cheat which does nothing more than cheapen an arguably already cheaper effort put in by the players. For what? Some extra dollars? IMO (IdrA specifically) is just getting paid to give his opponents free research into what he's currently doing. Although I'm probably the only person in the world that's happy he hasn't been streaming lately.

Basically just want the entire team to knuckle down, get really damn serious, cut out even more of the extra shit and show they are worthy of that buttload of sponsors they have. They don't owe it to the fans as much as they owe it to themselves and their team.

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On July 18 2011 11:55 xtfftc wrote:




Well there's a lot of factors that have to be taken into account.

Huk didn't simply go to Korea and improve drastically. Sure, he has access to the Korean ladder but apart from that he practices an awful lot; lives with the best Protoss in the world - and a bunch of other pros as well, and has people like Tyler and Nazgul to give him advice.
Just because Liquid are able to provide such an environment for their players, doesn't mean that EG are as well. Spending the money for a team house would not be enough if they don't have the connections the Liquid management has. At least Idra certainly didn't. And moving to the US was obviously the right decision for him. A lot of doomsayers keep on moaning about his girlfriend ruining ESPORTS but they seem to forget that Idra all but stopped practicing long before he left Korea.

Also, Liquid were always convinced that having prescence in Korea is a good investment for the future, while EG try to maximise their players' exposure at the present. Having their players in the US makes it much more convenient to work with sponsors and to travel to as many events as possible. If they move the whole team to Korea, flying all of them for events in Europe and the US would require an unrealistically high budget, so it would have to be limited. The chances of this investment paying off do not seem to be very high to me. However, having no presence in Korea whatsoever doesn't sound that good to me as well. It doesn't have to be permanent but sending some of their players to stay there for a month like Incontrol did last year might be worth it.

What I'm concerned about is that EG do not seem to be interested in young and promising players. I don't know about StrifeCro's background but all the others have years of experience, either in SC:BW or W3. Having experienced players on the team is by no means something bad but if I'm sending someone to Korea, it would be as a part of my long-term plans because the player has to be ready to win nothing for a year or two.

On July 18 2011 15:03 Whole wrote:
But yeah, I agree with everything important in the post. Only two issues with your post are streaming and working out. Streaming 1-2hrs a day and working out 1ish hour a day is good for practice. A healthy body helps your mind, and streaming would be some practice while relaxing.

On July 18 2011 16:20 BadWithNames wrote:


Oh they should definitely work out. The perks are huge for gaming imo. It was just a bad way of juxtaposing where their priorities seem to lay (since we don't know how often they party or watch tv or whatever). As for the streaming thing I fail to see the point besides money. Most players admit to not trying as hard on stream and/or not taking ladder serious. IdrA himself has quit streaming many times because of perceived cheating, less then stellar opponents, or constant cheese. Although I do enjoy LZ's stream because he readily takes requests from the chat on what to do during his matches. So yeah I dunno.

I guess in the end I'd like to keep streams too but I'd willingly do without it if meant more success for the team.

On July 18 2011 14:27 starcraft2rush wrote:


*cough* FXO *cough*

On July 18 2011 14:55 FryktSkyene wrote:


I think OP is talking about team houses. The gom house isn't really a "team house"

Sure the team lives there. But I doubt theres a very strict time slot for playing/practiceing etc

There also not liveing with the best. Case in point...huk.. theres a shit ton of ogs members in code s and some in code a.

To be the best you gotta train with the best.

On July 18 2011 15:08 Chriscras wrote:


Thank you for your thoughtful response xtfftc, you exemplify everything that is amazing about teamliquid.net

On July 18 2011 16:41 aScPraiise wrote:
Id just like to thank EG for all signing my poster. I was able to replicate the signatures onto my customized steel series 7g.

Heres the final finish after the clear coating:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/alex123456/DSC01109.jpg

On July 19 2011 08:12 xtfftc wrote:
Justin.tv plan to have a dedicated server to delay tournaments and the pros' streams but cheating is not the only problem players like Idra and Incontrol face. Their ladder opponents know that thousands of people will be watching them, even if the stream is delayed by 10-15 minutes, so they used the opportunity to be as annoying as possible. This is the real issue with streaming. However, with the right mentality, a player can use this environment to strengthen their nerves.