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On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea.
Yeah, but is that really a healthy mentality to have? Wouldn't it have been better if they kept Tasteless as part of management to help grow their team presence in Asia?
Shouldn't they encourage their players to at least consider training in Korea for short periods of time, and participate in world tournaments or the GOM/MLG exchange program?
In the long run, could avoiding Korea potentially hurt EG players like IdrA more than help them?
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I wish sixjax didnt have such a monopoly on terrans so teams like Reign and EG can balance it out with the other races.
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On July 18 2011 02:13 Whole wrote:
xtfftc, you may want to add a little section in the op about the non sc2 players. they do have CS and fighters in the team too.
This is a StarCraft community.
On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea.
What you did was describe how EG abandoned Korea, not give arguments why this decision was a good idea.
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EG abondon korea? I'm pretty sure it was IdrA's decision to leave korea and I really don't blame him.
Also I really do not see any reason for tasteless to remain on EG. He can't play while being booked as a caster at GSL and every other foreign tourney there is. In addition they already have team management set up in NA.
Korea has the best competition but they only run one serious tourney every month, with 2k plane tickets I can easily understand EG's decision making process in not being involved in Korea currently.
All these points have been stated across several interviews and articles on myeg and TL. dunno why its even being asked honestly.
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Gotta get in on this! My jersey came in the mail the other day... Have had troubles taking it off...
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o.O;;;;
This is a great idea, Other teams should create their main "Fanclub" thread too imo, Fan of EG and Liquid myself =P.
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On July 18 2011 07:16 starcraft2rush wrote:
EG abondon korea? I'm pretty sure it was IdrA's decision to leave korea and I really don't blame him.
Also I really do not see any reason for tasteless to remain on EG. He can't play while being booked as a caster at GSL and every other foreign tourney there is. In addition they already have team management set up in NA.
Korea has the best competition but they only run one serious tourney every month, with 2k plane tickets I can easily understand EG's decision making process in not being involved in Korea currently.
All these points have been stated across several interviews and articles on myeg and TL. dunno why its even being asked honestly.
True. But Chriscras said he wanted a discussion and simply repeating what EG said at the time is not a discussion.
On July 18 2011 07:23 GertHeart wrote:
o.O;;;;
This is a great idea, Other teams should create their main "Fanclub" thread too imo, Fan of EG and Liquid myself =P.
That's a bit like saying that you are a fan of Man United and Liverpool at the same time. :D
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Sign me up
Does this mean i can make the teamliquid fanclub? :D
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On July 18 2011 07:49 NemesysTV wrote:
Sign me up
Does this mean i can make the teamliquid fanclub? :D
If you think that there is a need for a `Liquid fanclub on teamliquid.net when you have teamliquidpro.com as well and that you are the right person to run the fanclub - sure.
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On July 18 2011 07:09 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 02:13 Whole wrote:
xtfftc, you may want to add a little section in the op about the non sc2 players. they do have CS and fighters in the team too. This is a StarCraft community. Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea. What you did was describe how EG abandoned Korea, not give arguments why this decision was a good idea.
It would be nice if you added something about the other divisions. This is the WHOLE EG no just one division. Plus like most other SC2 fans they too like other games such as SSF4, CS, QL etc etc
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[QUOTE]On July 18 2011 08:37 trikshun wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 18 2011 07:09 xtfftc wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 18 2011 02:13 Whole wrote:
xtfftc, you may want to add a little section in the op about the non sc2 players. they do have CS and fighters in the team too.[/QUOTE]
This is a StarCraft community.
[QUOTE]On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL.[/QUOTE]
LOL.
Do you not read interviews?
IdrA left Korea to make money in the West.
Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea.
Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea.[/QUOTE]
What you did was describe how EG abandoned Korea, not give arguments why this decision was a good idea. [/QUOTE]
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Def a fan of EG , sign me up ^+^
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cool a fanclub for bashers
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On July 18 2011 09:05 skrzmark wrote:
cool a fanclub for bashers
huh?
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On July 18 2011 08:37 trikshun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 07:09 xtfftc wrote:On July 18 2011 02:13 Whole wrote:
xtfftc, you may want to add a little section in the op about the non sc2 players. they do have CS and fighters in the team too. This is a StarCraft community. On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea. What you did was describe how EG abandoned Korea, not give arguments why this decision was a good idea. It would be nice if you added something about the other divisions. This is the WHOLE EG no just one division. Plus like most other SC2 fans they too like other games such as SSF4, CS, QL etc etc
Nope, what this is is a place for StarCraft, not the whole of esports.
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On July 18 2011 05:27 Chriscras wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea. Yeah, but is that really a healthy mentality to have? Wouldn't it have been better if they kept Tasteless as part of management to help grow their team presence in Asia? Shouldn't they encourage their players to at least consider training in Korea for short periods of time, and participate in world tournaments or the GOM/MLG exchange program? In the long run, could avoiding Korea potentially hurt EG players like IdrA more than help them?
Ya being in Korea seems to drastically improve players, which seems to be something you would want(case in point HuK)
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On July 18 2011 08:37 trikshun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 07:09 xtfftc wrote:On July 18 2011 02:13 Whole wrote:
xtfftc, you may want to add a little section in the op about the non sc2 players. they do have CS and fighters in the team too. This is a StarCraft community. On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea. What you did was describe how EG abandoned Korea, not give arguments why this decision was a good idea. It would be nice if you added something about the other divisions. This is the WHOLE EG no just one division. Plus like most other SC2 fans they too like other games such as SSF4, CS, QL etc etc
Ya, who doesn't love JWONG wooooo
And SC2 EG is pretty awesome
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On July 18 2011 11:16 Hydra3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 05:27 Chriscras wrote:On July 18 2011 05:18 Xiaon wrote:On July 18 2011 05:13 Chriscras wrote:
I love Sir Scoots, IdrA, Incontrol, SOTG and OMG.tv
However, I would still like to have a level-headed discussion regarding EG's abandoning of Korea, releasing Tasteless and pulling IdrA out of the GSL. LOL. Do you not read interviews? IdrA left Korea to make money in the West. Tasteless wasn't really playing, and EG had lost focus of Korea. Nobody in EG wants to play in or wanted to play in Korea. Yeah, but is that really a healthy mentality to have? Wouldn't it have been better if they kept Tasteless as part of management to help grow their team presence in Asia? Shouldn't they encourage their players to at least consider training in Korea for short periods of time, and participate in world tournaments or the GOM/MLG exchange program? In the long run, could avoiding Korea potentially hurt EG players like IdrA more than help them? Ya being in Korea seems to drastically improve players, which seems to be something you would want(case in point HuK)
Well there's a lot of factors that have to be taken into account.
Huk didn't simply go to Korea and improve drastically. Sure, he has access to the Korean ladder but apart from that he practices an awful lot; lives with the best Protoss in the world - and a bunch of other pros as well, and has people like Tyler and Nazgul to give him advice.
Just because Liquid are able to provide such an environment for their players, doesn't mean that EG are as well. Spending the money for a team house would not be enough if they don't have the connections the Liquid management has. At least Idra certainly didn't. And moving to the US was obviously the right decision for him. A lot of doomsayers keep on moaning about his girlfriend ruining ESPORTS but they seem to forget that Idra all but stopped practicing long before he left Korea.
Also, Liquid were always convinced that having prescence in Korea is a good investment for the future, while EG try to maximise their players' exposure at the present. Having their players in the US makes it much more convenient to work with sponsors and to travel to as many events as possible. If they move the whole team to Korea, flying all of them for events in Europe and the US would require an unrealistically high budget, so it would have to be limited. The chances of this investment paying off do not seem to be very high to me. However, having no presence in Korea whatsoever doesn't sound that good to me as well. It doesn't have to be permanent but sending some of their players to stay there for a month like Incontrol did last year might be worth it.
What I'm concerned about is that EG do not seem to be interested in young and promising players. I don't know about StrifeCro's background but all the others have years of experience, either in SC:BW or W3. Having experienced players on the team is by no means something bad but if I'm sending someone to Korea, it would be as a part of my long-term plans because the player has to be ready to win nothing for a year or two.
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