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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26085 Posts
August 16 2012 19:49 GMT
#6221
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.

JRecco also destroyed Major 3-0, you're seeing a lot of new Zergs beating players they are considered better than. It remains to be seen whether they're taking advantage of the current strength of Zerg, or if they'll stick around and be a force. I know Naniwa himself sees SortOf as a genuinely good player out of this 'new wave'
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
LikeOhMyGod
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada21 Posts
August 16 2012 19:51 GMT
#6222
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.


Do you worship Naniwa?
the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
August 16 2012 19:56 GMT
#6223
On August 17 2012 04:23 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Yeah, it wasn't that he lost but it was the manner of his losses that were mystifying. I mean he played worse than I've ever seen him, even when he was just laddering it up.

Also, on the whole JYP controversy, it's not as to whether it affected Nani or not, it was just pretty weird behaviour from JYP. Regardless of whether it tilted Nani or not, it's not particularly edifying. Even Sase, who's supposedly pretty close to Nani waited until after his games to pop into his booth at GSL. Nani gets a bad rep and has so many people just waiting to laugh at him whenever he loses, quite distasteful really.

I'm sorry but your really stretching.... GSL is a completely different animal with the prep time. Just because he got back to back round of 8's doesn't make him the best foreigner or even close, In fact he's not in my top 5. In foreign tournaments where mechanics and game time decisions are paramount, players like him don't do well.
That fact is maybe Naniwa isn't a top foreign Protoss but rather just a talented RTS player who is able to execute pre-ordained builds well when he has time to practice.
Also, IEM computers are out in the open so JYP may have thought he was just in a practice game....
shanti
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26085 Posts
August 16 2012 20:01 GMT
#6224
On August 17 2012 04:56 the_business_og wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 04:23 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Yeah, it wasn't that he lost but it was the manner of his losses that were mystifying. I mean he played worse than I've ever seen him, even when he was just laddering it up.

Also, on the whole JYP controversy, it's not as to whether it affected Nani or not, it was just pretty weird behaviour from JYP. Regardless of whether it tilted Nani or not, it's not particularly edifying. Even Sase, who's supposedly pretty close to Nani waited until after his games to pop into his booth at GSL. Nani gets a bad rep and has so many people just waiting to laugh at him whenever he loses, quite distasteful really.

I'm sorry but your really stretching.... GSL is a completely different animal with the prep time. Just because he got back to back round of 8's doesn't make him the best foreigner or even close, In fact he's not in my top 5. In foreign tournaments where mechanics and game time decisions are paramount, players like him don't do well.
That fact is maybe Naniwa isn't a top foreign Protoss but rather just a talented RTS player who is able to execute pre-ordained builds well when he has time to practice.
Also, IEM computers are out in the open so JYP may have thought he was just in a practice game....

I'm not stretching, I wasn't even talking about him in the context of 'best foreigner', unless that's a response to Talin

He's got the mechanics when he's playing well, MLG Providence being a good example. Plus it doesn't matter what your pre-planned build for GSL, you still have to have good mechanics to back it up at that level
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
August 16 2012 20:07 GMT
#6225
Ah fuck, Was on work in the northern part of my country for a few days with my USB stick. Lost it without any valuable stuff on. Until I get home and realize all my illustrator work with this fanclub was on it

Unless I find it my bag somewhere it's lost forever Was going for a Anime theme since he likes Anime (Thanks Waterflow)

So do any of you guys have some experience then me with adobe programs? Who want to help a busy man out?

I'll start over but since I'm pretty lame at Adobe it may take awhile. An experienced dude might use a couple of hours where I'd use a day. I will update the Fanclub any way. But If I start over it may take awhile. Thanks in advance!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 20:28:29
August 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#6226
On August 17 2012 04:56 the_business_og wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 04:23 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Yeah, it wasn't that he lost but it was the manner of his losses that were mystifying. I mean he played worse than I've ever seen him, even when he was just laddering it up.

Also, on the whole JYP controversy, it's not as to whether it affected Nani or not, it was just pretty weird behaviour from JYP. Regardless of whether it tilted Nani or not, it's not particularly edifying. Even Sase, who's supposedly pretty close to Nani waited until after his games to pop into his booth at GSL. Nani gets a bad rep and has so many people just waiting to laugh at him whenever he loses, quite distasteful really.

I'm sorry but your really stretching.... GSL is a completely different animal with the prep time. Just because he got back to back round of 8's doesn't make him the best foreigner or even close, In fact he's not in my top 5. In foreign tournaments where mechanics and game time decisions are paramount, players like him don't do well.
That fact is maybe Naniwa isn't a top foreign Protoss but rather just a talented RTS player who is able to execute pre-ordained builds well when he has time to practice.


This could not be more wrong. GSL is precisely the highest level of play because of the elite quality of the players and the prep time given to each competitor. However, that prep time does not matter a damn if your mechanics are not good enough to execute plans and builds against a certain opponent. The same goes for decision making, and being able to adapt your plans and your builds in response to your opponent (this is especially the case in long box series). It's the most rigorous test of your ability as a SC2 (RTS) player, and, also, of course, of the game itself - as a reasonably balanced game will allow for the success of good plans and the correct execution of good plans and builds with player quality determining the win.

The one thing you can say about Naniwa is that he may be a little inflexible in his approach to the game - something, IIRC, which he himself has said before. While Naniwa may or may not be top foreigner, I find it hard to believe how he could not be at least top 5.
KT best KT ~ 2014
LikeOhMyGod
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada21 Posts
August 16 2012 20:40 GMT
#6227
A win is a win. A lose is a lose.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 16 2012 20:53 GMT
#6228
On August 17 2012 04:51 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.


Do you worship Naniwa?

Considering about half of your posts are about Naniwa, you're probably more obsessed about him than I am.
LikeOhMyGod
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada21 Posts
August 16 2012 20:56 GMT
#6229
On August 17 2012 05:53 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 04:51 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.


Do you worship Naniwa?

Considering about half of your posts are about Naniwa, you're probably more obsessed about him than I am.


Where are my posts about Naniwa?
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 16 2012 21:01 GMT
#6230
On August 17 2012 05:56 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 05:53 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:51 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.


Do you worship Naniwa?

Considering about half of your posts are about Naniwa, you're probably more obsessed about him than I am.


Where are my posts about Naniwa?

6 of the 15 posts that come up in your search history are about Naniwa.
LikeOhMyGod
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 21:08:20
August 16 2012 21:05 GMT
#6231
On August 17 2012 06:01 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 05:56 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
On August 17 2012 05:53 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:51 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.


Do you worship Naniwa?

Considering about half of your posts are about Naniwa, you're probably more obsessed about him than I am.


Where are my posts about Naniwa?

6 of the 15 posts that come up in your search history are about Naniwa.


So do you worship him yes or no.

User was warned for this post
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26085 Posts
August 16 2012 21:20 GMT
#6232
On August 17 2012 06:05 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 06:01 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 05:56 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
On August 17 2012 05:53 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:51 LikeOhMyGod wrote:
On August 17 2012 04:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 17 2012 02:31 Talin wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:21 Energy94 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:18 showBanquo wrote:
Sorry about recent events Nani, but it's understandable from your vacation and probs at the IT-cafe (the patch, the CS-kids etc). Looking forward to follow you through another GSL soon though, Naniwa fighting!


This is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever read.


You do understand that there HAS to be some reason why a back-to-back Code S RO8 player performed so poorly, especially in the matchups that he's normally pretty good at. Nobody starts playing badly for no reason and nobody becomes bad overnight.

Whether you choose to look at those reasons (or assumed reasons) as excuses or not is your prerogative.

Losing twice to players you're way better than (JonnyRecco and Aures) is easier than you think. TaeJa dropped 2 games to Bischu, on another day that could have been a Bischu 2-0 TaeJa upset. Bomber dropped maps to Delfi and Bly, and MVP dropped a map to Targa, if they can drop 1 map they could have dropped 2 on another day. Naniwa was probably on tilt really badly because of the pressure of finding a new team burdening him.


Do you worship Naniwa?

Considering about half of your posts are about Naniwa, you're probably more obsessed about him than I am.


Where are my posts about Naniwa?

6 of the 15 posts that come up in your search history are about Naniwa.


So do you worship him yes or no.

User was warned for this post

Fuck off then out of a fanclub made for people who enjoy his play. Not complicated.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
August 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6233
NaNiwa I'm confident that you will be able to find a good fit for a team and quickly dispell any misconceptions of a slump in next season's code S with some effort ^^
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
Punti
Profile Joined August 2010
99 Posts
August 17 2012 00:24 GMT
#6234
On August 17 2012 04:56 the_business_og wrote:
I'm sorry but your really stretching.... GSL is a completely different animal with the prep time. Just because he got back to back round of 8's doesn't make him the best foreigner or even close, In fact he's not in my top 5. In foreign tournaments where mechanics and game time decisions are paramount, players like him don't do well.
That fact is maybe Naniwa isn't a top foreign Protoss but rather just a talented RTS player who is able to execute pre-ordained builds well when he has time to practice.
Also, IEM computers are out in the open so JYP may have thought he was just in a practice game....



Mhm, that's why he got 1st and 2nd on MLG? ^_^
SaSiWa
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:55:10
August 17 2012 04:54 GMT
#6235
New Interview:



God, I love this guy! Go NaNiWa! <3
SaSiWa <3
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 06:18:36
August 17 2012 05:50 GMT
#6236
On August 17 2012 13:54 SaSiWa wrote:
New Interview:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD-pgpxCha0


God, I love this guy! Go NaNiWa! <3

Nice interview, glad to hear that the JYP-situation isn't JYP's fault.

I'm happy that Naniwa isn't afraid of saying what he really thinks

@NeWeNiya: That sucks Unfortunately I cannot help you out.
EZ4ENCE
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
August 17 2012 06:22 GMT
#6237
always fun seeing naniwa interviews and this one was long and nice
Go Sudan
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4516 Posts
August 17 2012 06:40 GMT
#6238
On August 17 2012 13:54 SaSiWa wrote:
New Interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD-pgpxCha0

God, I love this guy! Go NaNiWa! <3

great synergy between the interviewer and nani

also just plain great interview asking the hard questions awesome.
hi. big fan.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
August 17 2012 07:25 GMT
#6239
That was a great interview, which is so rare in esports where most everything seems to be about useless gossiping or about plugging companies or empty trolling. I'm so glad to hear that Johan has such a mature view of his games and himself. He is such a great player and character. < 3
moofang
Profile Joined June 2011
508 Posts
August 17 2012 07:33 GMT
#6240
I wish there were some spell we could cast on fanclubs that would enforce the point of fanclubs Sometimes I don't even feel like posting here anymore esp after controversial events because it feels like if I were Naniwa I won't even bother coming here to see the shitstorm.

That said I guess I do sympathize with that one guy who said idra's fanclub is much worse, haha.

Naniwa fighting! Your fans are a long shot away from giving up on you!
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