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USApwn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States81 Posts
June 03 2012 18:50 GMT
#4821
I just want you to know Naniwa that you do have loyal supporters here in America. I think you're an amazing individual with quite the background - you are very inspiring. I don't like how some people in the community have bullied you, and I totally support you with you being brutally honest as to how you feel. Stay awesome, I'm rooting for you!
"The beginning of wisdom in human as well as international affairs was knowing when to stop." Henry Kissinger
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
June 03 2012 20:41 GMT
#4822
What do you guys think?



Personally I really hope NaNi won't just bash everyone superhard (even if some of it might be legitimate) but actually prove himself to the retarded haters.

I'm looking forward to this interview but I'm really scared NaNi is going to ruin his career. Let's just hope he says good stuff aswell as some hate!

Heja NaNi!!
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 03 2012 20:50 GMT
#4823
On June 04 2012 05:41 NebuLoSa wrote:
What do you guys think?

https://twitter.com/itmeJP/status/209354220082696192

Personally I really hope NaNi won't just bash everyone superhard (even if some of it might be legitimate) but actually prove himself to the retarded haters.

I'm looking forward to this interview but I'm really scared NaNi is going to ruin his career. Let's just hope he says good stuff aswell as some hate!

Heja NaNi!!


I think it will be another fantastic episode
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 03 2012 20:50 GMT
#4824
Quite unlikely that it would ruin his career. Should be insanely entertaining. I hope it works out and they are able to do it.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
June 03 2012 20:55 GMT
#4825
I think it could actually be really good if he talks about his life etc, would be interested to watch.

If he does decide to shit talk howvever, it´s gonna be extremely entertaining at the very least.

In the end it´s his gameplay that matters, and I have to say it is really impressive.
inanotherlifetime
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden233 Posts
June 04 2012 04:52 GMT
#4826
I keep getting blown away with how tick skin you gotta have to survive in this industry. Some of the things being thrown Naniwa's way is so completely out of line, it makes my soul cringe. I really hope he doesn't read anything at all on reddit, even though he actually gets a lot of support there too. What blows my mind most is the tweets some people send him, making very personal attacks.

Sorry to bring this up here, just saying though. All this negativity, it gotta stop somewhere. In a way though I guess all the haters make us hardcore fans grow even more hardcore. But I really wish the community would lay off the personal attacks a bit.

Any of you fellow Swedes know an active community with more positive energy btw?
Lost & Confused <3 NaNiwa & SaSe
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 04 2012 10:35 GMT
#4827
On June 04 2012 13:52 inanotherlifetime wrote:
I keep getting blown away with how tick skin you gotta have to survive in this industry. Some of the things being thrown Naniwa's way is so completely out of line, it makes my soul cringe. I really hope he doesn't read anything at all on reddit, even though he actually gets a lot of support there too. What blows my mind most is the tweets some people send him, making very personal attacks.

Sorry to bring this up here, just saying though. All this negativity, it gotta stop somewhere. In a way though I guess all the haters make us hardcore fans grow even more hardcore. But I really wish the community would lay off the personal attacks a bit.

Any of you fellow Swedes know an active community with more positive energy btw?


rakaka is positive about naniwa imo. Get's alot of support there.
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
June 04 2012 10:39 GMT
#4828
On June 04 2012 13:52 inanotherlifetime wrote:
I keep getting blown away with how tick skin you gotta have to survive in this industry. Some of the things being thrown Naniwa's way is so completely out of line, it makes my soul cringe. I really hope he doesn't read anything at all on reddit, even though he actually gets a lot of support there too. What blows my mind most is the tweets some people send him, making very personal attacks.

Sorry to bring this up here, just saying though. All this negativity, it gotta stop somewhere. In a way though I guess all the haters make us hardcore fans grow even more hardcore. But I really wish the community would lay off the personal attacks a bit.

Any of you fellow Swedes know an active community with more positive energy btw?


Hell yeah, alot of druggies and racists but in the SC-channel there are almost only nice people!!!

https://www.flashback.org/t1255041
https://www.flashback.org/t1508321
https://www.flashback.org/t1255040

And on bnet2.0 we hang out in the channel fbsc2.

Come join us, NOW! :D
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 04 2012 10:44 GMT
#4829
On June 04 2012 13:52 inanotherlifetime wrote:
I keep getting blown away with how tick skin you gotta have to survive in this industry. Some of the things being thrown Naniwa's way is so completely out of line, it makes my soul cringe. I really hope he doesn't read anything at all on reddit, even though he actually gets a lot of support there too. What blows my mind most is the tweets some people send him, making very personal attacks.

Sorry to bring this up here, just saying though. All this negativity, it gotta stop somewhere. In a way though I guess all the haters make us hardcore fans grow even more hardcore. But I really wish the community would lay off the personal attacks a bit.

Any of you fellow Swedes know an active community with more positive energy btw?


Yeah man, sure Naniwa's not, like...the most easily likable guy in Starcraft, but some people are just ridiculous. Pretty sure there was a guy in the Real Talk thread who was saying that Naniwa shouldn't be given an audience, but ok fine let's see him try and defend himself.
He's not a fucking serial killer. He's just been a little bm a couple times and then it all blew up when people went mental (imo for false reasons) about that shit with Nestea at MLG and then in Korea.

Can't wait for the Real Talk episode <3
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 04 2012 10:50 GMT
#4830
On June 04 2012 19:44 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 13:52 inanotherlifetime wrote:
I keep getting blown away with how tick skin you gotta have to survive in this industry. Some of the things being thrown Naniwa's way is so completely out of line, it makes my soul cringe. I really hope he doesn't read anything at all on reddit, even though he actually gets a lot of support there too. What blows my mind most is the tweets some people send him, making very personal attacks.

Sorry to bring this up here, just saying though. All this negativity, it gotta stop somewhere. In a way though I guess all the haters make us hardcore fans grow even more hardcore. But I really wish the community would lay off the personal attacks a bit.

Any of you fellow Swedes know an active community with more positive energy btw?


Yeah man, sure Naniwa's not, like...the most easily likable guy in Starcraft, but some people are just ridiculous. Pretty sure there was a guy in the Real Talk thread who was saying that Naniwa shouldn't be given an audience, but ok fine let's see him try and defend himself.
He's not a fucking serial killer. He's just been a little bm a couple times and then it all blew up when people went mental (imo for false reasons) about that shit with Nestea at MLG and then in Korea.

Can't wait for the Real Talk episode <3


But the thing is that the people who are so overly aggressive about NaNiwa are losers. I can't imagine them having a life. Because if these people would be happy about their life they would have more important stuff to do than to bash a guy who speaks his mind.

There are alot of kids in this community and also alot of "grown up's" who are on a kids level mentally.
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
June 04 2012 12:59 GMT
#4831
On June 04 2012 19:44 The KY wrote:
Yeah man, sure Naniwa's not, like...the most easily likable guy in Starcraft, but some people are just ridiculous. Pretty sure there was a guy in the Real Talk thread who was saying that Naniwa shouldn't be given an audience, but ok fine let's see him try and defend himself.
He's not a fucking serial killer. He's just been a little bm a couple times and then it all blew up when people went mental (imo for false reasons) about that shit with Nestea at MLG and then in Korea.

Can't wait for the Real Talk episode <3


I can understand how people can find Naniwa to be disrespectful at times, and I know he's done things I don't like either, but the amount of crap he gets right now is so disproportionate it's silly. His only "crime" was to tease Idra about a showmatch they had already agreed on playing, after Idra commented on how Naniwa's PvZ was awful. There are a lot of cool people in Idra's fanbase too obviously, and I'm sure the ones causing trouble are a minority, but a few loud morons who take everything their favorite player says as fact are enough to create such a massive shitstorm when something like this happens.

What really blows my mind is how some people who are being jerks on twitter actually seemed to believe Idra's rant about Naniwa getting kicked out of Quantic and leaving the scene. Maybe they're just trolling, as I find it hard to believe anyone would actually be mind-numbingly stupid enough to seriously think Idra has some kind of insight into Quantic's leadership and their attitude towards certain players, but some of these guys seem like they want to prove me wrong.

Also, just to clarify; I don't mean this post to be some kind of hate speech against Idra either. Starting to flame the other way wouldn't accomplish anything.

I'm kind of worried for the Real Talk episode; it feels like regardless of what Naniwa says or does, people are going to find more excuses to hate him. But the Naniwa hate thing goes in waves, so maybe I shouldn't be too worried. Many of the haters are going to come crawling back to support him if he does well in the GSL. That's how popularity in this community often works, sadly enough...
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 13:42:42
June 04 2012 13:41 GMT
#4832
The Naniwa episode and follow up was probably my favorite episode of Sotg, I love hearing this guy talk. It takes a bit to get him out of his shell but he is an extremely funny guy once he gets going.

He doesn't deserve the hate, and the people who hate on him just love drama so ignore them. His only crime is keeping it real and not using fluff with others would, He acts and speaks his mind which I enjoy seeing from him. Naniwa Fighting!
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 04 2012 13:55 GMT
#4833
On June 04 2012 22:41 rastaban wrote:
The Naniwa episode and follow up was probably my favorite episode of Sotg, I love hearing this guy talk. It takes a bit to get him out of his shell but he is an extremely funny guy once he gets going.

He doesn't deserve the hate, and the people who hate on him just love drama so ignore them. His only crime is keeping it real and not using fluff with others would, He acts and speaks his mind which I enjoy seeing from him. Naniwa Fighting!

Do you have a link of this episode? Or at least the number?
I would just love a real talk with Naniwa.
It's good to be back
inanotherlifetime
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 15:48:00
June 04 2012 15:22 GMT
#4834
Thanks for the tips Waterflow and NebuLoSa. I am familiar with Rakaka, and most def will take a closer look at the flashback sections you linked.

On June 04 2012 21:59 RaZorwire wrote:

I'm kind of worried for the Real Talk episode; it feels like regardless of what Naniwa says or does, people are going to find more excuses to hate him. But the Naniwa hate thing goes in waves, so maybe I shouldn't be too worried. Many of the haters are going to come crawling back to support him if he does well in the GSL. That's how popularity in this community often works, sadly enough...


Yeah, I feel the same. Some people seem to be really looking hard for a reason to hate on him. And it is like some just enjoy piling upon him while he is "down" only to praise him when he wins something. This kind of annoys me, cause it feels so false. I guess each to their own, but still it rubs me the wrong way to see some so much support being washed away immediately when things become a bit rough.

Also I totally agree with what you wrote The KY. People keep dwelling so badly on his earlier missteps, it is like it is impossible for him to get kind of a fresh start. Cause no matter how well he behaves, the past will always be there to remind people to look actively for a way to take every little word he says the wrong way. While other progamers get away with almost anything.

Edit: Typo fixed.
Lost & Confused <3 NaNiwa & SaSe
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 04 2012 15:39 GMT
#4835
On June 05 2012 00:22 inanotherlifetime wrote:
Thanks for the tips Waterflow and NebuLoSa. I am familiar with Rakaka, and most def will take a closer look at the flashback sections you linked.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 21:59 RaZorwire wrote:

I'm kind of worried for the Real Talk episode; it feels like regardless of what Naniwa says or does, people are going to find more excuses to hate him. But the Naniwa hate thing goes in waves, so maybe I shouldn't be too worried. Many of the haters are going to come crawling back to support him if he does well in the GSL. That's how popularity in this community often works, sadly enough...


Yeah, I feel the same. Some people seem to be really looking hard for a reason to hate on him. And it is like some just enjoy piling upon him while he is "down" only to praise him when he wins something. This kind of annoys me, cause it feels so false. I guess each to their own, but still it rubs me the wrong way to see some so much support being washed away immediately when things become a bit rough.

Also I totally agree with what you wrote The KY. People keep dwelling so badly on his earlier missteps, it is like it is impossible for him to get kind of a fresh start. Cause no matter how well he behaves, the past will always be there to remind people to look actively for a way to take every little work he says the wrong way. While other progamers get away with almost anything.


You know what i think? I think people simply vent their anger and lash out on NaNiwa because they have own problems in life. NaNiwa is an easy target since he's in the spotlight so much and does things that are really not a big deal but becomes a big deal because of these people who simply needs a reason to "hate" (vent their anger) on something.

And that NaNiwa doesn't give a fuck makes them even more angry. Wich is just funny imo

NaNiwa is the strong person here while petty people with problems of their own really are the weak ones. Like bullies who select an easy target.

Imo NaNiwa doesn't really create drama unless there's a reason to do so. Ofcourse there are exceptions but as a whole i think that's the truth.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 04 2012 15:55 GMT
#4836
Meh, I hope he doesn't go on that show. There's gamer banter back and forth and then there's socially retarded greg taking things too far and making it super personal, and then suddenly the whole thing feels incredibly awkward to watch. Like, idra is the sort of person that would call someone (cruncher) fat like he's some middle-school kid as a result of cruncher playing starcraft in a way that idra doesn't like. I'm a little embarrassed for idra that he keeps stooping to that level.

Naniwa should just ignore him and not bother going on the show because it's obvious that he's affected by all the internet hate as it is. Actually he should avoid English interviews altogether because no good has come of it, also he comes across as a hundred times more compassionate, eloquent and socially skilled in his native tongue.
bgalang92
Profile Joined February 2011
United States155 Posts
June 04 2012 16:51 GMT
#4837
It's pretty difficult to say who's the best one of Stephano and Naniwa, since they've never actually played each other, and rarely even participate in the same tournaments


Naniwa has played Stephano and beat him, although it was awhile about half a year ago.

http://blip.tv/day9tv/stephano-z-vs-naniwa-p-g1-dreamhack-winter-group-2-day-2-5767517
bgalang92
Profile Joined February 2011
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 17:05:47
June 04 2012 16:52 GMT
#4838
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 17:25:14
June 04 2012 17:23 GMT
#4839
On June 05 2012 01:51 bgalang92 wrote:

Naniwa has played Stephano and beat him, although it was awhile about half a year ago.

http://blip.tv/day9tv/stephano-z-vs-naniwa-p-g1-dreamhack-winter-group-2-day-2-5767517


Didn't actually know that, thanks.

On June 05 2012 00:55 hifriend wrote:
Meh, I hope he doesn't go on that show. There's gamer banter back and forth and then there's socially retarded greg taking things too far and making it super personal, and then suddenly the whole thing feels incredibly awkward to watch. Like, idra is the sort of person that would call someone (cruncher) fat like he's some middle-school kid as a result of cruncher playing starcraft in a way that idra doesn't like. I'm a little embarrassed for idra that he keeps stooping to that level.

Naniwa should just ignore him and not bother going on the show because it's obvious that he's affected by all the internet hate as it is. Actually he should avoid English interviews altogether because no good has come of it, also he comes across as a hundred times more compassionate, eloquent and socially skilled in his native tongue.


I agree that Idra overreacted and handled the situation badly, but let's not turn this into an Idra bashing thread, please. There's enough hate going around in the community as it is, there's no need to fuel it further IMO.

zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
June 04 2012 17:45 GMT
#4840
(About Idra and what not):
Life is too short to keep echoing negativity.
-

Btw I hope Nani only focuses on himself and what he stands for That way he will indirectly respond to anything by showing/explaining who he is anyway.
(:
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