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This is a Fanclub and as such a place for fans to discuss the person in question for which the topic was created. Coming into this topic without having participated in it to criticise her or with the comment that this topic doesn't deserve to be here is unacceptable.
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On September 03 2011 08:10 Mr.SoloDolo wrote: So basically Kelly's response is "None of this is true and Tobi is a liar".
SOLID DEFENSE, I cant believe I ever doubted you kelly! Did you even read her post?
On September 03 2011 08:47 dofz wrote: Can I get a 2days ban before I say something that might get me banned for more. I can't believe people need to be told it's not ok to leave in the middle of a cast to go shed a tear because someone wrote mean things about you on the internet.
Stop giving girls special threatment Nobody is defending it, but Kelly says it happened a while ago and she has learned from it.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 03 2011 05:58 kellymilkies wrote: Hey guys, just want to clear something up. I listened to the VOD this morning but did not think much of it because it sounded like just another hate "thread" / "talk". This isn't the first time Tobi has attacked me online so I did not want to spend the day trying to fight something that I kind of dismissed. I also saw that nirvana wrote something in my TL fanclub thread as well and I can confirm that. Nirvana is an IRL friend of glade and I that I speak to a lot.
I want to apologise to my fans / supporters who had to go through thinking if it was true or not and the fact that I took quite a long time to reply. Quote Denzil "Now this story, did it happen recently? Does it have much legitimacy? Did it happen a long time ago? Is it relevant to now?"
Answer to that is No, no, no, no and no.
Firstly, regarding SMM, that was a long time ago and I do apologise that you have to look at that part of me for that one game. Truth was, look at the reddit replies after someone comes out and said something to satisfy himself, his ego, his pride. You could imagine when I was casting SMM, I was still a "green horn" (newbie). I read comments similar to the ones on reddit right now at a LIVE event when I should not have, and I got emotionally distraught and thus left to go to the bathroom to... shed a tear. I learned from that and handled what I need to for GSL much better than SMM. It was a great experience, I worked with many more shout casters along the way from then till now, and each and one of them has taught me something. Some more valuable than others obviously.
Secondly, regarding moonglade and I: honestly it's my own personal relationship and I don't understand why this had to be brought up when he himself is trying to attack or question my professionalism. We did have some issues before Korea but it was just me going through some personal issues at home and was stressed out, but it was resolved within probably 2 days of having an argument. I hope people can understand that moonglade is a great guy and we are in a normal relationship where people fight all the time, and even more so being that we are kind of in our first year of our relationship. Please do not harrass him nor give him any trouble as he is in the midst of preparing for Blizzcon qualifiers for SEA. Thank you very much for your kind understanding.
As for Huk, I don't even know why he brought that up. I think people who have met me in real life, even fans that met me in Gamescom got a hug from me. Chris and I have been friends for quite a while now and he's a great guy. I have already apologised to Chris for any inconvinience that has be caused because of this!
Also, for other various rumors that does not make sense, all I can say is people will always be people. They love to gossip and I don't blame them. But sometimes there is a line you don't cross. Like creating lies or fabricating stories for the sake of attention. I'm a human being. I'm real. I'm not just something that you use for your amusement. I laugh, I breathe, I cry, I feel just like everyone of you.
I know I took a while to reply but I hope this clear things up a little bit and I apologise to my fans, friends, and anyone that has been distrubed, harrassed, or had doubts about me this few days. I'm sorry and please stay with me as I work through this.
Kelly. stay strong, this shit will pass. some people really need to get lives, and stop budding into other people's personal business. as for the casting, you should be judged by how you have improved, not some lame shit that happened a long time ago. seriously people....
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Holy fuck people the DoTA thing wasn't yesterday, or last week. This is old news! If any of you actually watched DoTA back in the day or cared about the scene you would have been up in arms If along time ago. Tobi wasn't such a dick, ya he is, no one would be talking about this. She has grown as a caster. I would think that Kelly would never do this again and if it happens in the SC community then get pissed off. Intill then.....
Keep rocking Kelly
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On September 03 2011 08:39 Carthac wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 08:15 General_Winter wrote:I read the thread in reddit. Maybe it is because i'm old and married, so i don't feel anymore the heinous bitterness toward women of rejected adolescents, but i'm amazed by the lack of empathy, or common sense, of the SC2 community when it comes down to this girl.
This guy really hits it on the head. The video means nothing because its not from a remotely credible source. Its from a biased individual. I can guarantee that if I could speak with a good friend of an ex for every hater in this thread I could make hours of videos for each one that were vastly worse than this. mini disclaimer, the above comment is not true for posters in their thread who have never had girlfriend. Go Kelly! Hope you get to cast code A with Wolf sometime Tobi is the premiere shoutcaster for DoTA, and will be for DoTA 2 as well. I have a feeling you did not even watch the video. First of all, Tobi did not date Kellymilkies. I don't think you got that part. Moonglade was not in the video/thread at all. However, I would agree the relationship aspect is totally no ones business but her and Moonglade. Secondly, I am totally onboard with the premise of ignoring those who respond with superficial and childish comments, but this is a legitimate gripe here. She removed herself in the middle of an event, leaving the main caster to greatly strain his voice speaking alone when there were still 2 days left in the event. Not only that, but she was controlling the view that everyone at the event was using to view the event! She bailed out on not only her co-caster leaving him high and dry for quite some time, but then she left the crowd. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
Ummm... this happened a long time ago, I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal about it now. What do you want Kelly to do about it when it was awhile ago?
"I just heard that she left her co-caster to cast by himself, I just want to make a big deal about it and tell her that it's UNACCEPTABLE!11!!"
I get it, you want her to know that it was unprofessional. Anything else?
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On September 03 2011 08:54 ginnipig wrote:Holy fuck people the DoTA thing wasn't yesterday, or last week. This is old news! If any of you actually watched DoTA back in the day or cared about the scene you would have been up in arms If along time ago. Tobi wasn't such a dick, ya he is, no one would be talking about this. She has grown as a caster. I would think that Kelly would never do this again and if it happens in the SC community then get pissed off. Intill then..... Keep rocking Kelly Yeah it happened a long time ago and she still speaks english so fucking horribly. She may not cry over everything now but her casting is still fucking terrible.
User was temp banned for this post.
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"Seriously quit this business already, you are immature, not even good and take advantage of your gender."
Best post I have seen on all of TL and reddit on the issue.
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I hate all the drama surrounding females in eSports...
Not blaming anyone, don't flame me t.t
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"Hey guys I was new, so I walked out of a cast even though if I'd ever seen any eSports I would have known that that was a bad idea!"
I don't care how newbie you are, you should know that you don't just walk out of a cast. Unless you're just a complete moron. Which she isn't.
So really, she just did something entirely unprofessional and is refusing to own it.
As for the personal life stuff, who gives a shit who she is or isn't sleeping with.
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I'm going to personally take my time now and send the guys who don't realize they are being sexist, and or NOT reading what she posted. You are being blind. Helix I'll start with you.
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I like how everybody believes Tobi even though he has no proof to anything he said being true..
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On September 03 2011 09:23 Helix wrote: "Hey guys I was new, so I walked out of a cast even though if I'd ever seen any eSports I would have known that that was a bad idea!"
I don't care how newbie you are, you should know that you don't just walk out of a cast. Unless you're just a complete moron. Which she isn't.
So really, she just did something entirely unprofessional and is refusing to own it.
As for the personal life stuff, who gives a shit who she is or isn't sleeping with.
Regardless of what she did, this is a fanclub thread.
She could slap White-Ra, kill puppies, and start a nuclear holocaust, and that wouldn't change anything. Take this shit somewhere else.
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On September 03 2011 09:51 Applesqt wrote: I like how everybody believes Tobi even though he has no proof to anything he said being true..
theres a video you can watch. but anyway why arent you guys just ending the discussion on here. go and talk about it elsewhere, not on her fanclub >_>
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On September 03 2011 09:51 Applesqt wrote: I like how everybody believes Tobi even though he has no proof to anything he said being true..
Confessions from the involved parties are no longer considered proof? There's also some video evidence.
Note: I don't give a fuck about the debate, just pointing out how retarded your 'defense' is.
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Ugh . . . I have never had any trouble understanding Kelly cast and I think she is definetly a better cast then some out there (cough Totalbiscuit cough). In fact, I used to hated Husky casting but the last MLG, him and Day9 were better than (gasp) Tastetosis.
BUT what annoys me the most is such disparaging shallow comments.
Good luck Kelly
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With all due respect, this is a situation you need to consider when you sign up for standing in the spotlight. She's a grown up woman - if she can't handle the criticism then working in the spotlight isn't for her. A strong woman doesn't need white knights to 'personally send everyone pms derp derp'.
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You better read this.
+ Show Spoiler +Ok....seems that I need to clarify some stuff as some people across reddit to WCreplays, to TL, and a couple of other places are deciding to make up their own stories.
Firstly... my comments I made on the recent MOBA (still hate that word) weekly show where split into 2 parts, 1 being needed the other being said because of bad judgment on my part and pressure of a long time building to the point where I let my tongue loose before the brain kicked back in.
First part being my comments about Kelly's conduct during SMM, for people who were present you know what I was talking about, and know I was only refering to one instance. And this is only one instance, I was not wanting, and will never make a list of reasons of why I believe what I do. She has come A LONG way since she cast with me at SMM that I will giive her...but it takes more than that to change my opinion.
Second part being my comments about Moonglade and Kelly and such, which I will happily admit should never been said, personal took over from professional and for that I apologize.
I would like to add to it all tho, that those people say I am speaking out of hurt of rejection and other personal reasons should find out their facts alot more before they start to comment themselves. My facts from what I said came from 2 independant sources that were reliable and stories matched up (If kelly wishes to deny then that is her decision, I use my first hand knowledge and my second hand knowledge when it seems reliabe). And I also never said she slept with Huk...all I said was she distracted him before the his game by going into his booth, and that we all saw with our own eyes on the GSL stream.
I really do not want to be discussing this topic anymore, but I felt it was important to clear up some points which people were warping.
My applogies also go out to Moonglade and Huk for actually mentioning them, Drama is something you dont need, and hopefully you can avoid it and keep playing the awesome games you do.
And as always, all the best wishes to the casters they have worked had to strive to be professional, may you get the rewards that you are deserving of, and reward the people we cast for with quality productions
edit: People tend to say harsh stuff about others and have their own opinions of someone. Tobi is a classy guy and there's no need to "spread" the hate for what he said about Kelly. He made a mistake, realized that and apologized.
There's also no need to hate Kelly in any way. As Chill said, if you don't like her, don't come here and post about it. KEEP it to yourself. Same goes with everyone else.
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Hey pricks, lay off and go post negative stuff about her somewhere else, this isn't the place for it, and you're disgracing yourself and this website.
Kelly, you don't owe anyone a response, not your fans, not your enemies, nobody. You don't need to meet their demands and you don't need to to take shit from people, keep doing what you love to do, and keep being proud of doing what you love to do.
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When confronted, deny all accountability.
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The order of the white knights will assemble in this thread.
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On September 03 2011 10:19 Pr0spect wrote: The order of the white knights will assemble in this thread. . . . and there will be blood (or at least red warnings/bans).
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