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On July 27 2011 00:58 drgonzhere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:41 TeeTS wrote:A very sad day  . But know he has to move on. It's obvious that his playstyle is a little outdated and that he needs to think over it. In my opionion Jung Hoon (MKP) is the most talented SC2 player in terms of unit control, creative openings and generel mechanics. But at the moment he plays outdated strats in TvT mid and lategame, and so he loses every TvT that goes for longer than 10minutes. I really hope he can overcome his style and become a new marineking using his strengths, but leaving his weaknesses behind him. I wish him the very best for that. GO marineking! Don't let this break you! Hey you know maybe this is just me, but I don't see anything creative about going mass marine in every single match up. While I may not be a fan of MKP he has certainly given us some very entertaining games, I just hope he takes this as an opportunity. He needs to work on his mechanics, he needs to work on different styles, and I just hope he adapts to a more solid and safe style. To me his old style has started to grow very boring. I hope MKP takes this opportunity to practice ten times as hard, because he is being rapidly surpassed by other players when compared to his former stature.
While I agree that he needs to work on different styles I completely disagree about the mass marine thing.
When I see posts like yours I wonder if you watched all MKP matches (like I did) or you just talking based on GSL open season 2..
Because he went heavy rines in soooooo few games of the past 35+ that I really do not understand what this is all about.
Anyway I think his mechanics are actually much more solid than many other players, he also has a really good macro.
I think his weakness recently has been due to the decision making.
I could give you lots of examples but sometimes I think it's more "him loosing the game" than the opponent outplaying him.
For instance, when he recently played against Alicia in the GSL ro32 after he broke the contain he dropped several times and did some good damage but.. upon scouting the gold base he went totally nuts and felt he had to kill him right away. While most of the times if your opponent has the gold you HAVE to do something this is not necessary true when it comes to Terrans. In fact, I recall the income tab showing marine king's minerals being much higher than Alicia (cause of Mules). I think if in that case he went with ALL his army to the gold and killed it, then pulled back and went from there it would have been a win for MKP, instead he split his army too many times, lost dropships and gave him the win. In the game vs Losira he went pure marines for "entertaining purposes" I guess - but he has to realize the hardcore fans (like me) want him to win using any strategy and not necessary the one that he got famous for.
Today game vs fruit dealer looked really strong. If he did that against Losira I'm sure the outcome would have been different and he would have not been placed in the up and down matches.
I also feel he is slumping more because of his psychological condition rather than mechanics or style. I feel players like DreamMVP are less skilled compared to him and the reason why he won today match is a combo of MKP being too greedy (tried to kill him too fast when he was sieged outside of his base the first time) and because it seems like this mech style does not really suit him well (yet).
Despite everything I think MKP is insanely good and still in the top3 terran.
I am sincerely annoyed by all these kids who listen to the "current-player-Artosis-is-hyping" and put Bomber above him.
What has Bomber done so far ? NOTHING.
He did not accomplish anything. Sure, he took games off MC here and there but that's about it.
Reading some posts on these boards really make me wanna root against that kid.
MKP has an insane GSL record and recently did really strong in online tournaments (NASL, July trophy award, etc.) which makes me even more sure his issues are more psychological than other.
I feel when he is playing at home whether it is ladder or online tournament he feels less stress and performs better.
Being a MKP fan is really hard atm but I hope we all, his fans, can cheer him up even stronger now that he needs it.
I hope he practices hard and destroys everyone in Code A.
I want him to win it ! ( With nAni placing second :}} )
MKP i love you <3
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On July 27 2011 01:27 sunman1g wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:58 drgonzhere wrote:On July 26 2011 22:41 TeeTS wrote:A very sad day . But know he has to move on. It's obvious that his playstyle is a little outdated and that he needs to think over it. In my opionion Jung Hoon (MKP) is the most talented SC2 player in terms of unit control, creative openings and generel mechanics. But at the moment he plays outdated strats in TvT mid and lategame, and so he loses every TvT that goes for longer than 10minutes. I really hope he can overcome his style and become a new marineking using his strengths, but leaving his weaknesses behind him. I wish him the very best for that. GO marineking! Don't let this break you! Hey you know maybe this is just me, but I don't see anything creative about going mass marine in every single match up. While I may not be a fan of MKP he has certainly given us some very entertaining games, I just hope he takes this as an opportunity. He needs to work on his mechanics, he needs to work on different styles, and I just hope he adapts to a more solid and safe style. To me his old style has started to grow very boring. I hope MKP takes this opportunity to practice ten times as hard, because he is being rapidly surpassed by other players when compared to his former stature. While I agree that he needs to work on different styles I completely disagree about the mass marine thing. When I see posts like yours I wonder if you watched all MKP matches (like I did) or you just talking based on GSL open season 2.. Because he went heavy rines in soooooo few games of the past 35+ that I really do not understand what this is all about. Anyway I think his mechanics are actually much more solid than many other players, he also has a really good macro. I think his weakness recently has been due to the decision making. I could give you lots of examples but sometimes I think it's more "him loosing the game" than the opponent outplaying him. For instance, when he recently played against Alicia in the GSL ro32 after he broke the contain he dropped several times and did some good damage but.. upon scouting the gold base he went totally nuts and felt he had to kill him right away. While most of the times if your opponent has the gold you HAVE to do something this is not necessary true when it comes to Terrans. In fact, I recall the income tab showing marine king's minerals being much higher than Alicia (cause of Mules). I think if in that case he went with ALL his army to the gold and killed it, then pulled back and went from there it would have been a win for MKP, instead he split his army too many times, lost dropships and gave him the win. In the game vs Losira he went pure marines for "entertaining purposes" I guess - but he has to realize the hardcore fans (like me) want him to win using any strategy and not necessary the one that he got famous for. Today game vs fruit dealer looked really strong. If he did that against Losira I'm sure the outcome would have been different and he would have not been placed in the up and down matches. I also feel he is slumping more because of his psychological condition rather than mechanics or style. I feel players like DreamMVP are less skilled compared to him and the reason why he won today match is a combo of MKP being too greedy (tried to kill him too fast when he was sieged outside of his base the first time) and because it seems like this mech style does not really suit him well (yet). Despite everything I think MKP is insanely good and still in the top3 terran. I am sincerely annoyed by all these kids who listen to the "current-player-Artosis-is-hyping" and put Bomber above him. What has Bomber done so far ? NOTHING. He did not accomplish anything. Sure, he took games off MC here and there but that's about it. Reading some posts on these boards really make me wanna root against that kid. MKP has an insane GSL record and recently did really strong in online tournaments (NASL, July trophy award, etc.) which makes me even more sure his issues are more psychological than other. I feel when he is playing at home whether it is ladder or online tournament he feels less stress and performs better. Being a MKP fan is really hard atm but I hope we all, his fans, can cheer him up even stronger now that he needs it. I hope he practices hard and destroys everyone in Code A. I want him to win it ! ( With nAni placing second :}} ) MKP i love you <3
I agree with 90 % of your post but there is one thing factually wrong with it that hopefully you can edit out before this discussion derails into who the best terran is. Bomber DID beat MVP in a BO7. That's certainly worthy of some recognition considering MKP's record against MVP.
Meanwhile yeah, I'm still a huge MKP fan, and can't wait to see him dominate Code A. MKP vs Naniwa for Code A finals!
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On July 27 2011 01:27 sunman1g wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:58 drgonzhere wrote:On July 26 2011 22:41 TeeTS wrote:A very sad day . But know he has to move on. It's obvious that his playstyle is a little outdated and that he needs to think over it. In my opionion Jung Hoon (MKP) is the most talented SC2 player in terms of unit control, creative openings and generel mechanics. But at the moment he plays outdated strats in TvT mid and lategame, and so he loses every TvT that goes for longer than 10minutes. I really hope he can overcome his style and become a new marineking using his strengths, but leaving his weaknesses behind him. I wish him the very best for that. GO marineking! Don't let this break you! Hey you know maybe this is just me, but I don't see anything creative about going mass marine in every single match up. While I may not be a fan of MKP he has certainly given us some very entertaining games, I just hope he takes this as an opportunity. He needs to work on his mechanics, he needs to work on different styles, and I just hope he adapts to a more solid and safe style. To me his old style has started to grow very boring. I hope MKP takes this opportunity to practice ten times as hard, because he is being rapidly surpassed by other players when compared to his former stature. While I agree that he needs to work on different styles I completely disagree about the mass marine thing. When I see posts like yours I wonder if you watched all MKP matches (like I did) or you just talking based on GSL open season 2.. Because he went heavy rines in soooooo few games of the past 35+ that I really do not understand what this is all about. Anyway I think his mechanics are actually much more solid than many other players, he also has a really good macro. I think his weakness recently has been due to the decision making. I could give you lots of examples but sometimes I think it's more "him loosing the game" than the opponent outplaying him. For instance, when he recently played against Alicia in the GSL ro32 after he broke the contain he dropped several times and did some good damage but.. upon scouting the gold base he went totally nuts and felt he had to kill him right away. While most of the times if your opponent has the gold you HAVE to do something this is not necessary true when it comes to Terrans. In fact, I recall the income tab showing marine king's minerals being much higher than Alicia (cause of Mules). I think if in that case he went with ALL his army to the gold and killed it, then pulled back and went from there it would have been a win for MKP, instead he split his army too many times, lost dropships and gave him the win. In the game vs Losira he went pure marines for "entertaining purposes" I guess - but he has to realize the hardcore fans (like me) want him to win using any strategy and not necessary the one that he got famous for. Today game vs fruit dealer looked really strong. If he did that against Losira I'm sure the outcome would have been different and he would have not been placed in the up and down matches. I also feel he is slumping more because of his psychological condition rather than mechanics or style. I feel players like DreamMVP are less skilled compared to him and the reason why he won today match is a combo of MKP being too greedy (tried to kill him too fast when he was sieged outside of his base the first time) and because it seems like this mech style does not really suit him well (yet). Despite everything I think MKP is insanely good and still in the top3 terran. I am sincerely annoyed by all these kids who listen to the "current-player-Artosis-is-hyping" and put Bomber above him. What has Bomber done so far ? NOTHING. He did not accomplish anything. Sure, he took games off MC here and there but that's about it. Reading some posts on these boards really make me wanna root against that kid. MKP has an insane GSL record and recently did really strong in online tournaments (NASL, July trophy award, etc.) which makes me even more sure his issues are more psychological than other. I feel when he is playing at home whether it is ladder or online tournament he feels less stress and performs better. Being a MKP fan is really hard atm but I hope we all, his fans, can cheer him up even stronger now that he needs it. I hope he practices hard and destroys everyone in Code A. I want him to win it ! ( With nAni placing second :}} ) MKP i love you <3
I think you missed the point of my post, but its okay. And yes, I have seen all of MKP's games and its just what the guy does. He loves bio, and I'm not saying thats a bad thing but its too predictable. During the super tournament he did the same openings in all 3 match ups with very few exceptions. Bashing Bomber has no place in any argument about MKP's skill and I think that you are very misinformed about him. Last time I checked mental toughness is an important part of a player's skill, especially in a game like SC2. This is why a player like Nestea dominates, he is mentally stronger than the bulk of his opponents. I think that MKP was at one time the best terran in the world, but now I don't even feel like he is in the top tier. I DO believe he is talented enough to be in that tier though, so please don't accuse me of misinformed player bashing.
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[QUOTE]On July 27 2011 01:27 sunman1g wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 27 2011 00:58 drgonzhere wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 26 2011 22:41 TeeTS wrote:...[/QUOTE]
Beautiful post  .
I agree so much on the part "us fans wanna see him win even if he doesn't use the strats he has been known for" : I felt completely like this in his game against NaDa (group stages may) and against LosirA (group stage July).
When I see him destroy Nerchio with standart play I really ask myself why does he do such weird strats in bo1 groupstages :/.
I really hope that he won't give up and work harder to adapt to the current TvT style, at least he still can biotank in TvZ (but you have to incorporate ghost) and bio ghost TvP.
About Bomber beating Mvp, since the code A final was a bit "meaningless" and that Mvp slumped hard in TvT after that it's hard to say "Bomber > MKP because Bomber won these games against Mvp" but I agree no need to player bashing, Bomber would probably be the current best TvT if he had a strong mental (against Byun). Bomber is less accomplished than MKP but he is doing better in tvt right now
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On July 27 2011 01:37 drgonzhere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:27 sunman1g wrote:On July 27 2011 00:58 drgonzhere wrote:On July 26 2011 22:41 TeeTS wrote:A very sad day . But know he has to move on. It's obvious that his playstyle is a little outdated and that he needs to think over it. In my opionion Jung Hoon (MKP) is the most talented SC2 player in terms of unit control, creative openings and generel mechanics. But at the moment he plays outdated strats in TvT mid and lategame, and so he loses every TvT that goes for longer than 10minutes. I really hope he can overcome his style and become a new marineking using his strengths, but leaving his weaknesses behind him. I wish him the very best for that. GO marineking! Don't let this break you! Hey you know maybe this is just me, but I don't see anything creative about going mass marine in every single match up. While I may not be a fan of MKP he has certainly given us some very entertaining games, I just hope he takes this as an opportunity. He needs to work on his mechanics, he needs to work on different styles, and I just hope he adapts to a more solid and safe style. To me his old style has started to grow very boring. I hope MKP takes this opportunity to practice ten times as hard, because he is being rapidly surpassed by other players when compared to his former stature. While I agree that he needs to work on different styles I completely disagree about the mass marine thing. When I see posts like yours I wonder if you watched all MKP matches (like I did) or you just talking based on GSL open season 2.. Because he went heavy rines in soooooo few games of the past 35+ that I really do not understand what this is all about. Anyway I think his mechanics are actually much more solid than many other players, he also has a really good macro. I think his weakness recently has been due to the decision making. I could give you lots of examples but sometimes I think it's more "him loosing the game" than the opponent outplaying him. For instance, when he recently played against Alicia in the GSL ro32 after he broke the contain he dropped several times and did some good damage but.. upon scouting the gold base he went totally nuts and felt he had to kill him right away. While most of the times if your opponent has the gold you HAVE to do something this is not necessary true when it comes to Terrans. In fact, I recall the income tab showing marine king's minerals being much higher than Alicia (cause of Mules). I think if in that case he went with ALL his army to the gold and killed it, then pulled back and went from there it would have been a win for MKP, instead he split his army too many times, lost dropships and gave him the win. In the game vs Losira he went pure marines for "entertaining purposes" I guess - but he has to realize the hardcore fans (like me) want him to win using any strategy and not necessary the one that he got famous for. Today game vs fruit dealer looked really strong. If he did that against Losira I'm sure the outcome would have been different and he would have not been placed in the up and down matches. I also feel he is slumping more because of his psychological condition rather than mechanics or style. I feel players like DreamMVP are less skilled compared to him and the reason why he won today match is a combo of MKP being too greedy (tried to kill him too fast when he was sieged outside of his base the first time) and because it seems like this mech style does not really suit him well (yet). Despite everything I think MKP is insanely good and still in the top3 terran. I am sincerely annoyed by all these kids who listen to the "current-player-Artosis-is-hyping" and put Bomber above him. What has Bomber done so far ? NOTHING. He did not accomplish anything. Sure, he took games off MC here and there but that's about it. Reading some posts on these boards really make me wanna root against that kid. MKP has an insane GSL record and recently did really strong in online tournaments (NASL, July trophy award, etc.) which makes me even more sure his issues are more psychological than other. I feel when he is playing at home whether it is ladder or online tournament he feels less stress and performs better. Being a MKP fan is really hard atm but I hope we all, his fans, can cheer him up even stronger now that he needs it. I hope he practices hard and destroys everyone in Code A. I want him to win it ! ( With nAni placing second :}} ) MKP i love you <3 I think you missed the point of my post, but its okay. And yes, I have seen all of MKP's games and its just what the guy does. He loves bio, and I'm not saying thats a bad thing but its too predictable. During the super tournament he did the same openings in all 3 match ups with very few exceptions. Bashing Bomber has no place in any argument about MKP's skill and I think that you are very misinformed about him. Last time I checked mental toughness is an important part of a player's skill, especially in a game like SC2. This is why a player like Nestea dominates, he is mentally stronger than the bulk of his opponents. I think that MKP was at one time the best terran in the world, but now I don't even feel like he is in the top tier. I DO believe he is talented enough to be in that tier though, so please don't accuse me of misinformed player bashing.
I did not accuse you of player bashing..
I was simply pointing out that in the past games with the exception of the losira match he NEVER he went mass rines. Bio ? Yeah sometimes but bio != mass marines.
Regarding the opening it's not true.. the matches vs Squirtle, Ace, Revival had all different openings.. O_o
I do not want to bash bomber, as a matter of a fact, I cannot root against Terran players (being T myself in the master league I feel it is super tough right now especially vs Z) - I am just saying that I am annoyed by all the kids that are saying MKP is bad or overrated and are placing Bomber above him. I consider players based on their results. The day Bomber has accomplished at least 80% of what MKP has we can talk about it. Till then, as I said, he's just a good player who took games off MC and MVP. Nothing more.
We both agree that mental toughness is an important part and yes that is why Nestea is a boss.
I still think he is in the top tier based on his recent online results, if you do not believe so, I won't try to convince you otherwise.
I agree with 90 % of your post but there is one thing factually wrong with it that hopefully you can edit out before this discussion derails into who the best terran is. Bomber DID beat MVP in a BO7. That's certainly worthy of some recognition considering MKP's record against MVP.
Meanwhile yeah, I'm still a huge MKP fan, and can't wait to see him dominate Code A. MKP vs Naniwa for Code A finals!
As I just posted I do not rank and judge players based on that.
Yes Bomber took did beat MVP in a BO7. That makes him really good in TvT.
Does he make him a better player ? I do not think so.
There is a really silly logic going on with the TL community (I am not accusing you being part of it) that goes like this...
In theory If MKP won against 25 opponents and reached a final and then lost to MVP, and the next day Bomber won a BO7 against MVP some people would say "Bomber > MKP" Because Bomber did beat MVP.
Too bad that's not a criteria to judge him. A player has to play TvT, TvZ, TvP and has to put up results. If you say "I think Bomber has much better TvT than MKP" I agree. But is he better than him overall ? I do not think so. His results speak really loud. He has to prove everything.
Except his code A win so far he dropped out every single tournament he has been in. Time will tell.
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Poor marineking he's still my favorite terran and I hope that he makes it back up next season.
I hope going through code A will make him better, so that he may win a GSL title soon.
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This is not the place for this argument. I'll just leave with this. I believe Marineking has fallen behind. While he may open different in games he has the same mid game plan in every match up. (Very heavy bio w/ few tanks v Z and pretty much the same v T 4 rax late fac vs P)
I believe he has been surpassed by several terrans as of late, many have shown awe inspiring play that he hasn't.
But I believe he can catch up and reclaim his top tier status. His results, aside from the supertournament, tell the tale of this. 3 straight seasons up & down, and now code A.
He is not bad, i just feel like he has fallen behind. Especially as BW terrans begin to dominate the scene.
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On July 27 2011 01:46 sunman1g wrote:
I do not want to bash bomber, as a matter of a fact, I cannot root against Terran players (being T myself in the master league I feel it is super tough right now especially vs Z) - I am just saying that I am annoyed by all the kids that are saying MKP is bad or overrated and are placing Bomber above him. I consider players based on their results. The day Bomber has accomplished at least 80% of what MKP has we can talk about it. Till then, as I said, he's just a good player who took games off MC and MVP. Nothing more.
When people are placing bomber above MKP they are referring to at this moment. In the past, I agree that MKP would be the better player but as of now; definitely not. If you base it just on past results, you can also say that fruitdealer (or even inca) is a better player than a majority of players that should be considered better.
+ Show Spoiler +I hope MKP can make it back to code S. He's been playing so bad lately with such bad decision making. I'm getting a bit worried we won't see him in code s for awhile. Some people in code B trying for code A atm are already scary; Puma, DRG, MMA, sage (boxer, squirtle, ace, san)
Then there's people that are in code A this coming season that pose a threat like Naniwa, thorzain, sase and the rest of the people in the up/down that don't go to code S. The GSL competition is fierce.
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On July 01 2011 01:57 QTIP. wrote:
man... what happened to this guy =\
I had a bad feeling about this season for MKP. A shame, hopefully he bounces back.
It pains me to see him and + Show Spoiler + fall down to Code A.
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Very disappointed. Good luck next time!
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Sad day today.
If MKP doesn't adapt to the TvT mech-style, he's going to take a hard fall. Meta-game shifts are tough on someone like MKP (and FruitDealer, to a greater extent, since FD practices less than MKP), especially if the shift pretty much nullifies the player's personal style.
Best of luck to MKP. Hope he's still got that fire in him.
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Glad that Marineking got knocked to Code A. Lessens the pressure and bit and gives him time to hunker down and solidify his play. If he win Code A, I think he will return to Code S with the confidence he's been looking for.
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Marineking Noooooooo :'(
I Still Believe in You!!!!!!!!!
I do think the pressure in the GOM studio does get to him though. If you see his games in online things, such as FXOpen stuff, he owns, but he can't seem to put it together recently in GSL or GSTL. Makes me a sad panda.
I've also heard and seen that MKP likes to all-in on ladder and some other small tournaments to end games early by bringing SCV and the like. But he always plays safer in GSL and I wonder if that is why his decision making is not as good going late as it used to be.
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This sucks, but there's a lot more good players today than there were a few seasons ago, so it's not too surprising. Sadkingprime will come back though, and at least he'll win Code A and not get a silver again (I hope).
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Im so sad. I couldnt watch so I just spent all night refreshing the ipod.
Ugh - I really think its time for me to celebrate a MarineKing win!
I hope you do well in CODE A. I will never stop loving and cheering for you.
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MarineKing!!!
He can abuse his micro in different ways. I don't approve of the one-base play.
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On July 27 2011 01:37 drgonzhere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:27 sunman1g wrote:On July 27 2011 00:58 drgonzhere wrote:On July 26 2011 22:41 TeeTS wrote:A very sad day . But know he has to move on. It's obvious that his playstyle is a little outdated and that he needs to think over it. In my opionion Jung Hoon (MKP) is the most talented SC2 player in terms of unit control, creative openings and generel mechanics. But at the moment he plays outdated strats in TvT mid and lategame, and so he loses every TvT that goes for longer than 10minutes. I really hope he can overcome his style and become a new marineking using his strengths, but leaving his weaknesses behind him. I wish him the very best for that. GO marineking! Don't let this break you! Hey you know maybe this is just me, but I don't see anything creative about going mass marine in every single match up. While I may not be a fan of MKP he has certainly given us some very entertaining games, I just hope he takes this as an opportunity. He needs to work on his mechanics, he needs to work on different styles, and I just hope he adapts to a more solid and safe style. To me his old style has started to grow very boring. I hope MKP takes this opportunity to practice ten times as hard, because he is being rapidly surpassed by other players when compared to his former stature. While I agree that he needs to work on different styles I completely disagree about the mass marine thing. When I see posts like yours I wonder if you watched all MKP matches (like I did) or you just talking based on GSL open season 2.. Because he went heavy rines in soooooo few games of the past 35+ that I really do not understand what this is all about. Anyway I think his mechanics are actually much more solid than many other players, he also has a really good macro. I think his weakness recently has been due to the decision making. I could give you lots of examples but sometimes I think it's more "him loosing the game" than the opponent outplaying him. For instance, when he recently played against Alicia in the GSL ro32 after he broke the contain he dropped several times and did some good damage but.. upon scouting the gold base he went totally nuts and felt he had to kill him right away. While most of the times if your opponent has the gold you HAVE to do something this is not necessary true when it comes to Terrans. In fact, I recall the income tab showing marine king's minerals being much higher than Alicia (cause of Mules). I think if in that case he went with ALL his army to the gold and killed it, then pulled back and went from there it would have been a win for MKP, instead he split his army too many times, lost dropships and gave him the win. In the game vs Losira he went pure marines for "entertaining purposes" I guess - but he has to realize the hardcore fans (like me) want him to win using any strategy and not necessary the one that he got famous for. Today game vs fruit dealer looked really strong. If he did that against Losira I'm sure the outcome would have been different and he would have not been placed in the up and down matches. I also feel he is slumping more because of his psychological condition rather than mechanics or style. I feel players like DreamMVP are less skilled compared to him and the reason why he won today match is a combo of MKP being too greedy (tried to kill him too fast when he was sieged outside of his base the first time) and because it seems like this mech style does not really suit him well (yet). Despite everything I think MKP is insanely good and still in the top3 terran. I am sincerely annoyed by all these kids who listen to the "current-player-Artosis-is-hyping" and put Bomber above him. What has Bomber done so far ? NOTHING. He did not accomplish anything. Sure, he took games off MC here and there but that's about it. Reading some posts on these boards really make me wanna root against that kid. MKP has an insane GSL record and recently did really strong in online tournaments (NASL, July trophy award, etc.) which makes me even more sure his issues are more psychological than other. I feel when he is playing at home whether it is ladder or online tournament he feels less stress and performs better. Being a MKP fan is really hard atm but I hope we all, his fans, can cheer him up even stronger now that he needs it. I hope he practices hard and destroys everyone in Code A. I want him to win it ! ( With nAni placing second :}} ) MKP i love you <3 I think you missed the point of my post, but its okay. And yes, I have seen all of MKP's games and its just what the guy does. He loves bio, and I'm not saying thats a bad thing but its too predictable. During the super tournament he did the same openings in all 3 match ups with very few exceptions. Bashing Bomber has no place in any argument about MKP's skill and I think that you are very misinformed about him. Last time I checked mental toughness is an important part of a player's skill, especially in a game like SC2. This is why a player like Nestea dominates, he is mentally stronger than the bulk of his opponents. I think that MKP was at one time the best terran in the world, but now I don't even feel like he is in the top tier. I DO believe he is talented enough to be in that tier though, so please don't accuse me of misinformed player bashing.
Not top tier? Are you high? I dont see how so many people can bash on MKP these days but yet put Mvp on some fucking pidestal. Mvp slumped too, and still is imo, yet I still see him as the number one terran overall.
MKP is still in the top 10 along with Mvp, MMA, Bomber and such.
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jesus can't believe i haven't signed up >.<
sign me up! hes a baller MKP !!
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