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bennyboy9201
United States43 Posts
Yeah. It's on 30 something drones and is not an all in | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On August 04 2011 05:09 bennyboy9201 wrote: Yeah. It's on 30 something drones and is not an all in yeah, I studied a few replays. If Grimm and I get some replays from Anahiem, we'll do a guide on it, but from what we've gathered, it is. BTW the opening might not be right, but I use this opening and it goes into the build just fine. 9 Ov 15 Hatch 16 Gas 15 Pool @100% Pool -Make Queens -Speed -Pull 2 off of Gas (have one mining) (Now here is the important stuff) @6:00 (you should have around 100 gas around this time) -Build Evolution Chamber -Build Roach Warren @100% Evo - +1 Melee - Put all 3 drones on Gas - Make the second gas *Use all of your gas on Roaches, drone up to 35 drones. When you reach 35 Drones, just make Roaches and Lings. Attack any Rocks blocking a 3rd. @50% +1 Melee -Lair -3rd Gas @100% Lair (Upgrade finishes in line with Lair) - Make your attack hit. So bring your Roaches early. Lings can catch up. -4th Gas -Roach Speed -Overlord Speed **Start your third and drone up while you're attacking. Get an Infestor Pit while you take your third, and build a 4th Macro Hatch while you take your third or around that time. **=This is where it deviates based on scouting,. Your attack should consists of 16 Roaches and about 22 +1 Lings. I wouldn't use this on Tal'Darim and Shakuras though. (easy to defend Naturals) Instead of Roaches, you can take a fast 3rd with basically the same build. | ||
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xiaon2
United States2 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On August 04 2011 05:17 Whole wrote: yeah, I studied a few replays. If Grimm and I get some replays from Anahiem, we'll do a guide on it, but from what we've gathered, it is. BTW the opening might not be right, but I use this opening and it goes into the build just fine. 9 Ov 15 Hatch 16 Gas 15 Pool @100% Pool -Make Queens -Speed -Pull 2 off of Gas (have one mining) (Now here is the important stuff) @6:00 (you should have around 100 gas around this time) -Build Evolution Chamber -Build Roach Warren @100% Evo - +1 Melee - Put all 3 drones on Gas - Make the second gas *Use all of your gas on Roaches, drone up to 35 drones. When you reach 35 Drones, just make Roaches and Lings. Attack any Rocks blocking a 3rd. @50% +1 Melee -Lair -3rd Gas @100% Lair (Upgrade finishes in line with Lair) - Make your attack hit. So bring your Roaches early. Lings can catch up. -4th Gas -Roach Speed -Overlord Speed **Start your third and drone up while you're attacking. Get an Infestor Pit while you take your third, and build a 4th Macro Hatch while you take your third or around that time. **=This is where it deviates based on scouting,. Your attack should consists of 16 Roaches and about 22 +1 Lings. I wouldn't use this on Tal'Darim and Shakuras though. (easy to defend Naturals) Instead of Roaches, you can take a fast 3rd with basically the same build. Please do make a guide on this. Seems pretty damn solid | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On August 04 2011 05:30 Aocowns wrote: Please do make a guide on this. Seems pretty damn solid we require additional replays  but yeah, essentially you do whatever opening you want as long as it gets ling speed at a decent time (start your first gas at 3:40 at the latest), pull drones off of gas when speed starts and put them back in at 5:05. at 6:00 (or at 100 gas) make a roach warren and evo chamber. when your evo finishes, start ling speed and a 2nd gas. make 8 roaches. make lair and 3rd gas. make 8 more roaches. sometime before now, make as many lings as you want to pressure with, at a time you like (this is a personal preference thing but IdrA seems to like around 20 lings). when lair and +1 finish (theyll finish close to each other as long as your execution is good) attack with your lings and roaches, start +2, start roach speed, get a 4th gas, and get overlord speed (get those in whatever order you like, idra seems to like getting the speeds before +2 but again its a personal preference thing afaik). also take your third behind this attack. since I'm not idra this is all just what I can guess from the few replays I've watched with Whole. we need moar~! | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
Also, if the Protoss does a 3gate expand with no pressure, it will seem like your pressure doesn't do anything, but keep in mind that killing like 10 full energy Sentries is really good and you scare the Protoss. | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
Gonna be EPIC !!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
EGIdrA: yo LiquidSheth: hf gl! EGIdrA: gl hf IdrA is very well mannered on ladder when he wants to be. | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
 WP by both idra And Sheth, Great game. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
Edit: 12? meant 13k | ||
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ttQQtt
Germany50 Posts
Sign me up - should've done this a lot earlier. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On August 04 2011 05:48 Jinsho wrote: LiquidSheth: yo buddy EGIdrA: yo LiquidSheth: hf gl! EGIdrA: gl hf IdrA is very well mannered on ladder when he wants to be. Idra is always well mannered to nice people. ^^ | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
Edit: I am so wrong today, I meant 15k of course | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Tweleve
United States644 Posts
On August 04 2011 06:19 SafeAsCheese wrote: 5 ghosts with EMP can do what 15 ultras can't, kill a wall of archons He engaged in a bad area though, only like 6 of 15 of them were able to attack for a while | ||
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rdj107
United States336 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 04 2011 06:21 SentinelSC2 wrote: He engaged in a bad area though, only like 6 of 15 of them were able to attack for a while Deezer was sitting there maxing out on 3/3/3 archon/colossus/zealot It doesn't matter where he fought if idra let him finish that army, protoss would win. He tried killing the army, then killing tech buildings, nydus, fungal probes, etc. Ultra just suck dick, need brood lords to deal with archons | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On August 04 2011 06:22 rdj107 wrote: The entire map is a bad area when you're talking about ultras; the sooner he goes back to broodlords the better. a couple ultras is ok. that many is shitty | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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