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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:35 JKira wrote: If you watched HuK's games in Dreamhack, you would realize that HuK has been doing this 6gate blink expo vs all zergs when he doesn't get to forge expo. Yeah but you said yourself "when he doesn't get to forge expo", he did get to forge expo this time. Different situations | ||
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Jaxtyk
United States600 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:38 JKira wrote: Look at my response to another poster above. IdrA overcompensated for a push that was never coming. He had less drones than HuK had probes when HuK put up his third. How does that happen? When HuK set up his third safely and IdrA put up a far fourth without any chance to saturate it, it was over as HuK chronoboosted out 3-0 vs IdrA's 1-0. IdrA had 47 drones Huk had 40. | ||
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Whiteman103
United States1070 Posts
Wel that last game was pretty ridiculous | ||
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SENKi
Poland52 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:43 integrity wrote: also maybe if he put 3 spines on the edge of his creep and had all the roaches behind them he could have held it off . get to silver, then post. | ||
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makesomenoiiise
United Kingdom78 Posts
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:34 Arjofski wrote: Why doesn't he just throw down like 5 spines, he knows something like that is coming. Spines are lol vs blink stalkers. Can't target, stalks do extra damage, and can't chase. Stalk number will NEVER decrease. | ||
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Sun7
Greece61 Posts
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:44 Tschis wrote: Yeah but you said yourself "when he doesn't get to forge expo", he did get to forge expo this time. Different situations Sorry I don't know what I was thinking. I meant to say he does it WITH forge expo to get a fast third up. | ||
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
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_vk_
219 Posts
Honest question from someone who's clueless either way: what's the problem with the spine crawler defense? Is it that it's very easy to snipe them while blinking back and dodging their shots? | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
Think of it as like facing colossus without corrupters or neural parasite. | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
When HuK first put up the third it was 40 to 39. Then IdrA's ling scouts the third going down and made 7 drones. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:51 _vk_ wrote: Honest question from someone who's clueless either way: what's the problem with the spine crawler defense? Is it that it's very easy to snipe them while blinking back and dodging their shots? thing about static defense, in any RTS game, is that you can't get aggressive with it (most of the time, cannon rush bunker rush spine rush yadda yadda go away). he was on even base with a protoss, even if he defends it he needs to expand after and investing that much into spines won't help at all, you need mobile units. it's not allin by huk, if he sees spines he just pulls back and he's in a favourable position | ||
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:51 Hardigan wrote: c'mon guys. let's just take a breath and pause for a few seconds. Idra lost the bo3, no big deal. he still has a chance in the losers bracket. And he was the only Z left in the winners bracket anyway. So he did really good. GOOD IS NOT GRACK. It's not the same. Need Grack. | ||
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SENKi
Poland52 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:52 MonsieurGrimm wrote: thing about static defense, in any RTS game, is that you can't get aggressive with it (most of the time, cannon rush bunker rush spine rush yadda yadda go away). he was on even base with a protoss, even if he defends it he needs to expand after and investing that much into spines won't help at all, you need mobile units. it's not allin by huk, if he sees spines he just pulls back and he's in a favourable position We can use way simple answer. Spines are just bad vs blink stalkers, they deal very low damage, so with blink there is like 0 dmg vs blink stalkers. | ||
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cavalier117
United States430 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:51 Warrice wrote: he didnt play perfectly, he was a little behind in upgrades and was on equal bases vs protoss. i think as soon as he saw blink he needed to tech to hydra or infestors. the game is balanced enough to where if idra played perfectly he wouldnt have lost. Although blink stalkers are extremely cost efficient, he didnt have the tech to hold them off. Think of it as like facing colossus without corrupters or neural parasite. nothing to do with the last set of games, but you do realize that protoss is always ahead of zerg/terran when it comes to upgrades....especially when it's against Zerg. no difference between protoss ranged/melee upgrades compared to Zerg...and Chronoboost is awesome. | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:56 cavalier117 wrote: nothing to do with the last set of games, but you do realize that protoss is always ahead of zerg/terran when it comes to upgrades....especially when it's against Zerg. no difference between protoss ranged/melee upgrades compared to Zerg...and Chronoboost is awesome. this is just flat out wrong. sorry.. zerg can be ahead in upgrades if they want to be. nothing else to really say about your post. | ||
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SENKi
Poland52 Posts
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cavalier117
United States430 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:58 Warrice wrote: this is just flat out wrong. sorry.. zerg can be ahead in upgrades if they want to be. nothing else to really say about your post. how do you say its wrong yet present no evidence to prove your point? | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
On June 26 2011 04:00 cavalier117 wrote: how do you say its wrong yet present no evidence to prove your point? yeah youre right, i should have provided evidence. a good example is morrows zvp style, it has fast melee ups into a ling bling infester midgame, he is usually ahead in upghrades unless the protoss makes it an obligation to be head with fast two forge and spamming boosts. | ||
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