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On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote: The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push. THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all. kiwikaki
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On June 20 2011 05:40 hifriend wrote: 3 hours/day practice vs 12 hours/day practice
Of course MC owns idra, just as he should. MC is the better player and races had nothing to do with it.
Yes but MC made choices that Idra's 3 hours a day reacted to perfectly. I don't know what you're suggesting the other 9 hours are supposed to do. I can only presume MC practices his Blink micro in the other 9.
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On June 20 2011 05:39 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:37 Hypemeup wrote:I mean yes stalkers counter roaches but a 70 food lead with more upgrades and he loses decisively. MC was 0-2 and idra was 0-1. I wasn't aware that that 1 attack upgrade gave Protoss the ability to best 70 foods worth of extra units.
I did not factor in Blink or Burrow/tunneling Claws. Without that Blink micro that would have been much closer.
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On June 20 2011 05:40 Warrice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote: The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push. THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all. kiwikaki
naniwa white-ra you get the point
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On June 20 2011 05:32 starsucks wrote: Even though I knew exactly this would happen and as you know I predicted it
I CAN NOT FUCKING EXPRESS MY FUCKING HATE TOWARDS EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!!!!!
FUCK THIS GAME!!!! FUCK THIS STUPID DAY 9 GUY WHO HAS NO IDEA OF THIS FUCKING GAME!!! FUCK THIS FUCKING SHIT GAME WHICH IS IMBALANCED AS FUCK!!!! FUCK PROTOSS!!! FUCK EVERYTHING!!!!
idra played so fucking well in both games but why even try. Why even try if there's fuckin shit like this. Just Forcefields and blink. FUCK EVERYTHING.
And last but not least I'll take a fucking shit in this stupid "unit counting station".
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So is this the purpose of being a fan of Idra ? This thread looks like a place for trolls bitching about balance and not for people to support Idra, i mean i like Idra but this thread should be closed, or atleast 70% of people that post here should be perma banned.
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On June 20 2011 05:40 Warrice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote: The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push. THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all. kiwikaki
i dont think kiwi would all in if he was in MC's situation there
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Ummm...the 70 food lead hardly mattered. Roaches costs half the amount of a stalker but the same supply...and my report button...holy shit i just used the fuck out of it.
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On June 20 2011 05:41 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:40 hifriend wrote: 3 hours/day practice vs 12 hours/day practice
Of course MC owns idra, just as he should. MC is the better player and races had nothing to do with it. Yes but MC made choices that Idra's 3 hours a day reacted to perfectly. I don't know what you're suggesting the other 9 hours are supposed to do. I can only presume MC practices his Blink micro in the other 9.
haha , nice one
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On June 20 2011 05:39 Mailing wrote: MC lost two free colossus due to mis-micro in game 1, didn't matter
It did matter, but Idra sat back and let MC get about 6 more. He needs to keep up the pressure/kill more colossus if he doesn't wanna get rolled.
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On June 20 2011 05:40 Az0r_au wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:36 ninjakingcola wrote: Idra played well, yes. The problem was, his teck and upgrades were behind MC in the final engagement. Idra also had some questionable decisions trying to burrow under three layers of force-feilds. I'm loving Idra's fanbase reaction to his loss though, they sound just like him. XD Don't you see why this is whats broken about protoss? MC opens with a HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY tech opening that does NOTHING and STILL ends up with a more cost effective army and better upgrades. The DT's:
- Still gave him map control - Made idra's investment in early roaches/lings completely useless - Forced spines/spores - Ended up killing 5-6 drones anyway..
so it wasn't as bad as it could've been had idra gone a more normal route.
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On June 20 2011 05:40 Warrice wrote: kiwikaki
No, not at all.
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On June 20 2011 05:36 Fleebenworth wrote: He needed earlier and more hydras in game two and he didn't build an infestor in either game. Blink stalkers are good against masses of low-range, low dps units(especially when you fall behind in upgrades).
Neither games lasted long enough for infestors.... they take SOO long to get out, especially with Pathogen glands being a MUST. game 1=corrupters being way more important to get b4 infestors. they couldnt even get out in time when he had 4 bases and PERFECT macro. game two didnt last near enough for infestors.
L2 build order times...
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I think zerg needs buff, so that trash protosses like mc don't get wins they don't deserve
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http://MannerUp.blogspot.com/
I posted a summary of the each game in the series in my blog, but I'll paste over my thoughts on the series here.
Yet again, MC defeats IdrA and eliminates him from the tournament. If IdrA had implemented some infestors or drops in these games, I believe the results would have been different. Protoss units are simply too strong in the right compositions, and engaging in a straight up fight will almost never allow a Zerg to win (if they don't have infestors, of course).
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Atleast IdrA shown improvement in attitude towards taking on Protoss, specifically MC. If you listen to his comments prior to MLG Columbus he said that the one player he fears is MC, so I don't think the loss will come at a shock to him a month later.
He tried and played well, just needs to learn to play against the mass stalkers with blink better as his roach hydra builds aren't holding up too well against the top tier Protoss players.
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Have any Zerg at any time in any tournament come back when your down with 60 supply? Hell, if your behind, far ahead or EVEN with your opponent your fucked either way. Gief blink Banelings.
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On June 20 2011 05:42 ninjakingcola wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:39 Mailing wrote: MC lost two free colossus due to mis-micro in game 1, didn't matter
It did matter, but Idra sat back and let MC get about 6 more. He needs to keep up the pressure/kill more colossus if he doesn't wanna get rolled.
he couldn't MC still had a good amount of gateway units.
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On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote: The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push. THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all.
Deezer.... As long as you can use the blink ability, you can't lose a stalker...
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WELL FUCK GUYS LETS JUST COME IN HERE AND SHIT UP THE FANCLUB
Please, this is the IdrA fanclub, not the Balance Whine Thread. What we should be saying is that IdrA played a couple fantastic games and nearly won them both, not herp derp I'll whine about balance in the IdrA fanclub just because IdrA doesn't think the game is balanced.
None of you are good enough for balance to matter. Please calm down before you post.
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