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Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#15341
On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push.


THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced

Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all.

kiwikaki
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 20:41:46
June 19 2011 20:41 GMT
#15342
On June 20 2011 05:40 hifriend wrote:
3 hours/day practice vs 12 hours/day practice

Of course MC owns idra, just as he should. MC is the better player and races had nothing to do with it.


Yes but MC made choices that Idra's 3 hours a day reacted to perfectly. I don't know what you're suggesting the other 9 hours are supposed to do. I can only presume MC practices his Blink micro in the other 9.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
June 19 2011 20:41 GMT
#15343
On June 20 2011 05:39 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:37 Hypemeup wrote:
I mean yes stalkers counter roaches but a 70 food lead with more upgrades and he loses decisively.


MC was 0-2 and idra was 0-1.


I wasn't aware that that 1 attack upgrade gave Protoss the ability to best 70 foods worth of extra units.


I did not factor in Blink or Burrow/tunneling Claws. Without that Blink micro that would have been much closer.
Xiaon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States245 Posts
June 19 2011 20:41 GMT
#15344
On June 20 2011 05:40 Warrice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push.


THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced

Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all.

kiwikaki


naniwa
white-ra
you get the point
idra demuslim incontrol lzgamer machine strife cro axslav, oh and INKAAAA
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 19 2011 20:41 GMT
#15345
On June 20 2011 05:32 starsucks wrote:
Even though I knew exactly this would happen and as you know I predicted it

I CAN NOT FUCKING EXPRESS MY FUCKING HATE TOWARDS EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW!!!!!

FUCK THIS GAME!!!! FUCK THIS STUPID DAY 9 GUY WHO HAS NO IDEA OF THIS FUCKING GAME!!! FUCK THIS FUCKING SHIT GAME WHICH IS IMBALANCED AS FUCK!!!! FUCK PROTOSS!!! FUCK EVERYTHING!!!!

idra played so fucking well in both games but why even try. Why even try if there's fuckin shit like this. Just Forcefields and blink. FUCK EVERYTHING.

And last but not least I'll take a fucking shit in this stupid "unit counting station".


User was temp banned for this post.


So is this the purpose of being a fan of Idra ?
This thread looks like a place for trolls bitching about balance and not for people to support Idra, i mean i like Idra but this thread should be closed, or atleast 70% of people that post here should be perma banned.
PhaseTwo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States118 Posts
June 19 2011 20:41 GMT
#15346
On June 20 2011 05:40 Warrice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push.


THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced

Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all.

kiwikaki


i dont think kiwi would all in if he was in MC's situation there
best dr pepper drinkin, kush smokin, gsl watchin diamond nerd baller brotoss ever
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 20:42:46
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15347
Ummm...the 70 food lead hardly mattered. Roaches costs half the amount of a stalker but the same supply...and my report button...holy shit i just used the fuck out of it.
rklz
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina11 Posts
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15348
On June 20 2011 05:41 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:40 hifriend wrote:
3 hours/day practice vs 12 hours/day practice

Of course MC owns idra, just as he should. MC is the better player and races had nothing to do with it.


Yes but MC made choices that Idra's 3 hours a day reacted to perfectly. I don't know what you're suggesting the other 9 hours are supposed to do. I can only presume MC practices his Blink micro in the other 9.


haha , nice one
Z
ninjakingcola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States405 Posts
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15349
On June 20 2011 05:39 Mailing wrote:
MC lost two free colossus due to mis-micro in game 1, didn't matter


It did matter, but Idra sat back and let MC get about 6 more. He needs to keep up the pressure/kill more colossus if he doesn't wanna get rolled.
Where my demons hide? Why, if I showed you it wouldn't be a secret my dear.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 20:43:09
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15350
On June 20 2011 05:40 Az0r_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:36 ninjakingcola wrote:
Idra played well, yes. The problem was, his teck and upgrades were behind MC in the final engagement. Idra also had some questionable decisions trying to burrow under three layers of force-feilds. I'm loving Idra's fanbase reaction to his loss though, they sound just like him. XD


Don't you see why this is whats broken about protoss? MC opens with a HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY tech opening that does NOTHING and STILL ends up with a more cost effective army and better upgrades.

The DT's:

- Still gave him map control
- Made idra's investment in early roaches/lings completely useless
- Forced spines/spores
- Ended up killing 5-6 drones anyway..

so it wasn't as bad as it could've been had idra gone a more normal route.
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15351
On June 20 2011 05:40 Warrice wrote:
kiwikaki


No, not at all.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
cavalier117
Profile Joined April 2011
United States430 Posts
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15352
On June 20 2011 05:36 Fleebenworth wrote:
He needed earlier and more hydras in game two and he didn't build an infestor in either game. Blink stalkers are good against masses of low-range, low dps units(especially when you fall behind in upgrades).


Neither games lasted long enough for infestors.... they take SOO long to get out, especially with Pathogen glands being a MUST. game 1=corrupters being way more important to get b4 infestors. they couldnt even get out in time when he had 4 bases and PERFECT macro. game two didnt last near enough for infestors.

L2 build order times...

User was temp banned for this post.
Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
WritersBlock
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada91 Posts
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15353
I think zerg needs buff, so that trash protosses like mc don't get wins they don't deserve

User was temp banned for this post.
hemipepsis5p
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
June 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#15354
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Demo!
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5 Posts
June 19 2011 20:43 GMT
#15355
http://MannerUp.blogspot.com/

I posted a summary of the each game in the series in my blog, but I'll paste over my thoughts on the series here.

Yet again, MC defeats IdrA and eliminates him from the tournament. If IdrA had implemented some infestors or drops in these games, I believe the results would have been different. Protoss units are simply too strong in the right compositions, and engaging in a straight up fight will almost never allow a Zerg to win (if they don't have infestors, of course).
http://MannerUp.blogspot.com/
TriZen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England219 Posts
June 19 2011 20:43 GMT
#15356
Atleast IdrA shown improvement in attitude towards taking on Protoss, specifically MC. If you listen to his comments prior to MLG Columbus he said that the one player he fears is MC, so I don't think the loss will come at a shock to him a month later.

He tried and played well, just needs to learn to play against the mass stalkers with blink better as his roach hydra builds aren't holding up too well against the top tier Protoss players.
Kimoto
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway70 Posts
June 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#15357
Have any Zerg at any time in any tournament come back when your down with 60 supply? Hell, if your behind, far ahead or EVEN with your opponent your fucked either way. Gief blink Banelings.
EGIdrA - DIMAGA - oGsTheSTC - LiquidTLO
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
June 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#15358
On June 20 2011 05:42 ninjakingcola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:39 Mailing wrote:
MC lost two free colossus due to mis-micro in game 1, didn't matter


It did matter, but Idra sat back and let MC get about 6 more. He needs to keep up the pressure/kill more colossus if he doesn't wanna get rolled.


he couldn't MC still had a good amount of gateway units.
EG-TL!
Zeddicus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States239 Posts
June 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#15359
On June 20 2011 05:39 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push.


THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced

Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all.


Deezer.... As long as you can use the blink ability, you can't lose a stalker...
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#15360
WELL FUCK GUYS LETS JUST COME IN HERE AND SHIT UP THE FANCLUB

Please, this is the IdrA fanclub, not the Balance Whine Thread. What we should be saying is that IdrA played a couple fantastic games and nearly won them both, not herp derp I'll whine about balance in the IdrA fanclub just because IdrA doesn't think the game is balanced.

None of you are good enough for balance to matter. Please calm down before you post.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
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