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On June 20 2011 05:35 hallihg wrote:
This is ridiculous
Idra responded perfectly to MC's stargate opening in match 1
Idra matched MC's dark shrine build perfectly in match 2 and mc's failure leads to a 60 food lead
yet idra loses. This matchup is a joke.
agree. The only thing I can say to Greg... ling counter attack...
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This is by far one of the most entertaining threads to browse after every single idra loss.
Also I guess you're happily ignoring the fact that losira steamrolled MC at MLG, so much for the imbalance tears 
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hydra vs vanilla stalker is pretty close 1v1, but zerg usually has more production so hydra > vanilla stalker. But blink micro makes stalkers a lot more efficent especially when becomming maxed
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Well this is rather depressing... Great play from Idra though.
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On June 20 2011 05:37 CONDESCENDING FREAK wrote:
This is by far one of the most entertaining threads to browse after every single idra loss.
thank you
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That was really good play by idra. Even though he didn't win, it was good seeing him trying new things (contaminating base, predicting dt's). Sad that he gets eliminated this early, but I also wouldn't be surprised if MC takes this event.
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On June 20 2011 05:34 hemipepsis5p wrote:
PROTOSS IS SO FUCKING IMBA! GOSH DANGIT! BLINK STALKERS ARE THE THE MOST BULLSHIT UNIT IN THE GAME! FF AND BLINK IN MID-GAME IS FUCKING OP AS FUCK! GOD DAMN FUCKING PROTOSS BABY BUILDING BLOCKS RACE! SUCH BULLSHIT!
Idra good job playing the games out, even with contaminate, crushing his DT's and taking a 3rd noob protoss imba-race wins out. Whatever, good job. Let's see what happens after Blizzard nerfs Toss again before Anaheim.
+ Show Spoiler ++2 attack blink stalkers vs. +1 attack roaches who didn't utilize their ability-based upgrades at all.
That's not a game imbalance, it's a player imbalance. That said, IdrA played really well in the second game, he just didn't play as well as MC.
+2 burrowed roaches would have beat +1 no-blink stalkers.
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On June 20 2011 05:35 nazR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push. THERE WAS A HIGH SENTRY COUNT. Didn't you see all the forcefields ? comon dude SC2 is NOT balanced
Tell me one protoss you think would've won in that situation except MC. Also IdrA didn't handle the situation perfectly at all.
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On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push.
are you kidding... MC canceled his first gateway, got his DT rush crushed, canceled his natural expansion... IdrA could have done nothing better, and was so ahead. (70+ food count) and still lost. Any ZvP MC is in, makes it feel like protoss is so overpowered.
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MC lost two free colossus due to mis-micro in game 1, didn't matter
Did no real damage in game 2 with dt (he killed maybe 5 drones at idras third), didn't matter.
Zerg has no answer to blink stalkers until they can get 5-10 infesters out 
IdrA needs to find some way to see if he can get those infestors into his builds while not dying..
The problem is that if he made infesters, he would have no units to stop MCs third....
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It is quite despressing seeing idra lose when he has a 60 food advantage.
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Cheers for the heads up, gogogogo IdrA, forget DHS '11!
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I'm amazed how Protoss can play so poorly and still win. When you play like shit , go dark templars , turtle.
Its a joke.
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On June 20 2011 05:37 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +I mean yes stalkers counter roaches but a 70 food lead with more upgrades and he loses decisively. MC was 0-2 and idra was 0-1.
I wasn't aware that that 1 attack upgrade gave Protoss the ability to best 70 foods worth of extra units.
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I really think IdrA needs to get infestors earlier
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I can do that blink micro its not hard just take the front layer which got ONE hit then blink it to the back and just repeat and then you've killed a maxed army.
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On June 20 2011 05:36 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:33 Greatness wrote:
The reason he lost in game 2 was because ,he was expecting a high sentry count, so he researched burrow and tunneling claws, combined with a long range expansion that takes a while to take effect, there is no surprise he lost. SC2 is balanced, any SMALL mistake gives the opponent an advantage in a timing push. small sentry count? maybe you misses the 5 waves of 5-6 FF spread (which IdrA retardedly kept trying to dig under) that and the horrendous rally point at the end didnt help =( but still, it was minor mistakes where MC could still somehow come back from considering he was 70 food behind, Blink and forcefield is bullshit
It was 3-4sentries full energy, you get burrow move for 8+ sentries. The resources spent on burrow move + a long range expo made him lose. That one immortal annihilated the roaches alongside with blink micro stalkers with +2 against +1 roaches with burrow move that is designed to counter force fields. Idra should've backed off after those forcefields was put down, he lost around 10-15 roaches rallied there.
It was an all in by MC, that's why Idra was unprepared because he scouted the third too late ie there was no third. If he made several spine crawlers, it would've wrecked that all in.
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On June 20 2011 05:36 ninjakingcola wrote:
Idra played well, yes. The problem was, his teck and upgrades were behind MC in the final engagement. Idra also had some questionable decisions trying to burrow under three layers of force-feilds. I'm loving Idra's fanbase reaction to his loss though, they sound just like him. XD
Don't you see why this is whats broken about protoss? MC opens with a HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY tech opening that does NOTHING and STILL ends up with a more cost effective army and better upgrades.
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I'm mixing up the LR thread with the idra fanclub wtf.
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On June 20 2011 05:36 Velocity` wrote:
You guys seem upset... but don't blame Protoss just because Idra lost.
Being an Idra and Zerg fan, i have to agree with this. I feel Idra isn't playing his best lately. If we look at other big zerg players playing vs protoss (granted, they were not MC) i have no reason to believe Protoss is OP tbh.
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