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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
June 05 2011 10:24 GMT
#12621
people that might be looking for IdrA vs Thorzain
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
June 05 2011 10:27 GMT
#12622
Idra = Awesome
starsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
233 Posts
June 05 2011 10:36 GMT
#12623
On June 05 2011 17:15 TheAmazombie wrote:
I have a question, maybe it has been answered, but I could not find it. Why is Idra playing under "Idra1" instead of EGIdra like normally?

It's the name he registered at mlg with. You can take whatever name you want so I assume somebody took EGidra before. When he registered he possibly wasn't even a member of EG. Looks a bit stupid though.

I believe idrA vs MMA is going to be really hard. Anybody who saw MMA vs Sheth knows how Sheth got absolutely destroyed and what nasty TvZ MMA plays.

We all know that idrA is a much better Zerg than Sheth but these multipronged drops are still horrible and a pain in the ass to deal with. But then again I remember games like the epic ladder match idrA vs MVP where MVP just dropped him at 15 bizillion places at ones.

I'm just afraid idrA can't play his normal super fast muta build all game long.

dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
June 05 2011 10:42 GMT
#12624
Idra is the only foreign zerg that can keep up with MMA.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 10:46 GMT
#12625
For other people who want to watch idra vs thorzain (and not use youtube, either because of quality or the video being taken down) you can load it in gomplayer by clicking open url (ctrl+u) and pasting
http://testmlg-f.akamaihd.net/SCa_HD_2500@58515?v=1.0.8.10&fp=WIN 10,3,181,14&r=EMXQM&g=BMFRVLGOEVVV&seek=37550
If you don't want to hear 1.5 min of pregame talk between tastosis you can use:
http://testmlg-f.akamaihd.net/SCa_HD_2500@58515?v=1.0.8.10&fp=WIN 10,3,181,14&r=EMXQM&g=BMFRVLGOEVVV&seek=37635
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
June 05 2011 11:16 GMT
#12626
On June 05 2011 13:18 kanadiasteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:08 SleepTech wrote:
On June 05 2011 12:50 Chriscras wrote:
He should have six pooled Thorzain both games just so no one could study his weakness.

My concern is that MMA will watch IdrA's recent losses against Thorzain and DDE and come to the conclusion that early rushes are the biggest holes in IdrA's ZvT right now.



But this pretty much is the only way to beat him. You gotta be aggressive from 5 to 8 minutes in and he usually gets the loss. From watching his stream, this seems to be most of his losses. He doesn't lose too many straight up macro matches. Then again he doesn't lose much in general but the early aggression/cheese works better then straight up.


I've also never personally seen a sensor tower get thrown down at the front of a terran push like in the Thorzain series game 1. It completely killed any element of surprise IdrA could have used, and seemed to make a push that IdrA usually crushes into a game-ending one. If people begin to do this a little more, how exactly does IdrA move in on a sieged up force?

(p.s. correct me if I'm wrong on the importance of that tower)


That sensor tower was a very smart choise considering how good idra is at picking off stray units with his mutas.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 12:01:23
June 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#12627
rasnj is it possible to upload the other game? If there is any??

NVM
Jazzi!
Facedriller
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden275 Posts
June 05 2011 11:43 GMT
#12628
On June 05 2011 16:11 scrubtastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote:
Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him.

Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7.

Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely.

Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital?

I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision.


This is exactly what happened.
A Marine walks into a bar and says: "Where's the counter?"
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 05 2011 11:45 GMT
#12629
On June 05 2011 20:34 Bobobberat wrote:
rasnj is it possible to upload the other game? If there is any??

I just saw that someone on reddit has made a compilation:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/hs20b/mlgcollinks_to_day_2_vods/
Looks to be all the major games.

You can navigate the red and blue stream by using the following links:
http://testmlg-f.akamaihd.net/SCb_HD_2500@58515?v=1.0.8.10&fp=WIN 10,3,181,14&r=YNLOF&g=IGKCSKHBULKJ&seek=X
http://testmlg-f.akamaihd.net/SCa_HD_2500@58515?v=1.0.8.10&fp=WIN 10,3,181,14&r=EMXQM&g=BMFRVLGOEVVV&seek=X
where you replace X by the number of seconds into the broadcast you want to go (found this tip at http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/hs12n/mlg_please_let_me_navigate_around_the_restream/c1xvddw)
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 05 2011 12:04 GMT
#12630
On June 05 2011 16:11 scrubtastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote:
Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him.

Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7.

Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely.

Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital?

I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision.

Not trying at an MLG main stage with even a faint possibility of being at disadvantage in a future extended series is very far from rational. :p
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
June 05 2011 12:10 GMT
#12631
On June 05 2011 20:43 Facedriller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 16:11 scrubtastic wrote:
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote:
Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him.

Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7.

Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely.

Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital?

I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision.


This is exactly what happened.

Are you serious? Idra's vT doesn't have a whole lot of variable strategies, so 'not trying' against Thorzain is a retarded motion. He does almost the same thing every game, and changes it in regards to the match and player at any given time. Therefore, playing well against Thorzain wouldn't mean MMA could look at those strategies and apply them to himself, since it wouldn't even work. From what I've seen, he does ling/bling/muta to open, and then goes infestor/broodlord in the lategame, which is what everyone already knows, so I don't see how he'd be hiding any strategies.

Plus there is always the chance that he could face Thorzain again in an extended series (even though it is unlikely), which I think is more threatening than showing some imaginary new vT strategies to MMA.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 05 2011 12:20 GMT
#12632
On June 05 2011 21:10 Callous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 20:43 Facedriller wrote:
On June 05 2011 16:11 scrubtastic wrote:
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote:
Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him.

Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7.

Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely.

Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital?

I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision.


This is exactly what happened.

Are you serious? Idra's vT doesn't have a whole lot of variable strategies, so 'not trying' against Thorzain is a retarded motion. He does almost the same thing every game, and changes it in regards to the match and player at any given time. Therefore, playing well against Thorzain wouldn't mean MMA could look at those strategies and apply them to himself, since it wouldn't even work. From what I've seen, he does ling/bling/muta to open, and then goes infestor/broodlord in the lategame, which is what everyone already knows, so I don't see how he'd be hiding any strategies.

Plus there is always the chance that he could face Thorzain again in an extended series (even though it is unlikely), which I think is more threatening than showing some imaginary new vT strategies to MMA.


He's been known to just not try on games he doesn't think are as important. Of course he'd like to win, but if he really wants to beat an opponent, then that's when we see him diversify his play and generally be less passive.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ZessiM
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom232 Posts
June 05 2011 12:21 GMT
#12633
On June 05 2011 21:10 Callous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 20:43 Facedriller wrote:
On June 05 2011 16:11 scrubtastic wrote:
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote:
Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him.

Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7.

Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely.

Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital?

I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision.


This is exactly what happened.

Are you serious? Idra's vT doesn't have a whole lot of variable strategies, so 'not trying' against Thorzain is a retarded motion. He does almost the same thing every game, and changes it in regards to the match and player at any given time. Therefore, playing well against Thorzain wouldn't mean MMA could look at those strategies and apply them to himself, since it wouldn't even work. From what I've seen, he does ling/bling/muta to open, and then goes infestor/broodlord in the lategame, which is what everyone already knows, so I don't see how he'd be hiding any strategies.

Plus there is always the chance that he could face Thorzain again in an extended series (even though it is unlikely), which I think is more threatening than showing some imaginary new vT strategies to MMA.

I thought IdrA played well against Thorzain up until the push. The a-move into the seige tank army which killed all the hellions just stank of laziness and I'm sure IdrA could have dealt with it better.
Facedriller
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden275 Posts
June 05 2011 12:26 GMT
#12634
On June 05 2011 21:10 Callous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 20:43 Facedriller wrote:
On June 05 2011 16:11 scrubtastic wrote:
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote:
Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him.

Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7.

Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely.

Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital?

I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision.


This is exactly what happened.

Are you serious? Idra's vT doesn't have a whole lot of variable strategies, so 'not trying' against Thorzain is a retarded motion. He does almost the same thing every game, and changes it in regards to the match and player at any given time. Therefore, playing well against Thorzain wouldn't mean MMA could look at those strategies and apply them to himself, since it wouldn't even work. From what I've seen, he does ling/bling/muta to open, and then goes infestor/broodlord in the lategame, which is what everyone already knows, so I don't see how he'd be hiding any strategies.

Plus there is always the chance that he could face Thorzain again in an extended series (even though it is unlikely), which I think is more threatening than showing some imaginary new vT strategies to MMA.



You'll see.
A Marine walks into a bar and says: "Where's the counter?"
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
June 05 2011 12:32 GMT
#12635
Best of luck against MMA!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Mitchlew
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia428 Posts
June 05 2011 12:34 GMT
#12636
Is it me or is idra getting real buff now?
Not fake buff like this :
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 05 2011 12:57 GMT
#12637
So many baddie terrans complaining about zerg late game being too strong, yet 1/5 of them make thors and 1/10 of them make ghosts.

Thorzain made thors AND sensor towers. IdrA couldn't do shit with his muta ball and thorzain never lost many tanks so idra could not break the siege line outside his base. This is the PROPER way to play terran,not herpderp make 3/3 marine/tanks only and try to kill zerg with infestor/muta.
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
June 05 2011 13:06 GMT
#12638
On June 05 2011 13:18 kanadiasteve wrote:(p.s. correct me if I'm wrong on the importance of that tower)

The tower was a very nice addition to the push. However, I think that it made Idra more nervous than it should have and prompted the attack which costed him the game.

On June 05 2011 11:46 Indrium wrote:
Xtffc, I don't mean to repeatedly criticize you, but the quotes section code is broken. <3

Thanks, fixed. It's funny how misediting the VODs section breaks the quotes section. :/
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
June 05 2011 13:45 GMT
#12639
On June 05 2011 21:57 Mailing wrote:
So many baddie terrans complaining about zerg late game being too strong, yet 1/5 of them make thors and 1/10 of them make ghosts.

Thorzain made thors AND sensor towers. IdrA couldn't do shit with his muta ball and thorzain never lost many tanks so idra could not break the siege line outside his base. This is the PROPER way to play terran,not herpderp make 3/3 marine/tanks only and try to kill zerg with infestor/muta.


I agree. Ghosts are probably slightly overpowered in the lategame considering how strong EMP and Snipe is.
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
June 05 2011 13:58 GMT
#12640
not an idra fan in general but i can feel his victory coming today.
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