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ClanOverdosed
691 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:54 kanadiasteve wrote: My stream died at the very end, what did Thorzain have to say about the match / Idra? He basically stated that idra probably didn't try hard because that match didn't matter and that he won the second game by playing "cheesy". | ||
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AgentSmith
Canada91 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:18 dAPhREAk wrote: unfortunately, the two people i want to do well in this tourney are mma and idra. shame that idra is going to have to knock his ass down to loser's bracket so early. ;-) hopefully, he comes back to face idra in the finals. I am of the completely same opinion, however, I think that IdrA may lose to MMA because MMA constantly does those dbl medivac drop rushes. He also has very solid tvz It wont be easy, but IDRA FIGHTINNNGG | ||
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AgentSmith
Canada91 Posts
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kanadiasteve
United States313 Posts
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:50 Chriscras wrote: He should have six pooled Thorzain both games just so no one could study his weakness. My concern is that MMA will watch IdrA's recent losses against Thorzain and DDE and come to the conclusion that early rushes are the biggest holes in IdrA's ZvT right now.  But this pretty much is the only way to beat him. You gotta be aggressive from 5 to 8 minutes in and he usually gets the loss. From watching his stream, this seems to be most of his losses. He doesn't lose too many straight up macro matches. Then again he doesn't lose much in general but the early aggression/cheese works better then straight up. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/video/mlg-video/976578511001-hail-to-the-king Players like MC and IdrA make Esports worth watching  . lol at IdrA's girlfriends reaction | ||
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Smapz
Norway405 Posts
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kanadiasteve
United States313 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:08 SleepTech wrote: But this pretty much is the only way to beat him. You gotta be aggressive from 5 to 8 minutes in and he usually gets the loss. From watching his stream, this seems to be most of his losses. He doesn't lose too many straight up macro matches. Then again he doesn't lose much in general but the early aggression/cheese works better then straight up. I've also never personally seen a sensor tower get thrown down at the front of a terran push like in the Thorzain series game 1. It completely killed any element of surprise IdrA could have used, and seemed to make a push that IdrA usually crushes into a game-ending one. If people begin to do this a little more, how exactly does IdrA move in on a sieged up force? (p.s. correct me if I'm wrong on the importance of that tower) | ||
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Lionesque
Canada7 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:03 AgentSmith wrote: 10 bucks says MMA does that rush he did against July game 1 against idra at least once July probably would have been able to thwart that rush if he would have drone scouted (on 12) or went pool first. He went 15 pool 15 gas 14 pool which is a little greedy on Xel'Naga IMO. | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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mgl0x9
United States256 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:24 mgl0x9 wrote: MMA and Idra should be a good one... are these games tomorrow BO5? or still 3? unfortunately MLG only has bo3 except for extended series T_T | ||
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Fiercegore
United States294 Posts
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landmarktiger
226 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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Mycl
Australia1370 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:50 landmarktiger wrote: I dont know why people are assuming he didnt try hardest in thorzain. Idra while probably the best foreign zerg does have some weaknesses- he is very greedy. Some strong pushes can kill him just like DDE also showed and now thorzain. Well when Thorzain himself says the series was a bit iffy on Idra's side of things I think people arguing the 'not trying' stuff do have a leg to stand on. In the end the games were a massive buzz kill and did not display top play from either player. | ||
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:12 Fiercegore wrote: Wouldn't it be stupid for idra not to try his hardest seeing as extended series might catch up to him in the end? I mean if he plays thorzain again, he'll be down two games? I'm not sure if he was trying or not, but if he wasn't I think that rule my come back to bite him. Bracket: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html# Thorzain's bracket will mean he faces MC before potentially facing Idra. Due to Thorzain's previous 2-0 loss to MC, the extended series rule will mean MC will be up 2-0 in a Bo7. Assuming Thorzain wins the two Bo3s to get to MC (which is likely), defeating MC 4-0 or 4-1 seems to be very unlikely. Besides - Idra is facing MMA and this match is more important, why give away vT strats in a game that isn't as vital? I don't know if Idra was actually trying or not but I think "not trying" is a perfectly rational decision. | ||
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Invoker
Belgium686 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:50 Chriscras wrote: He should have six pooled Thorzain both games just so no one could study his weakness. My concern is that MMA will watch IdrA's recent losses against Thorzain and DDE and come to the conclusion that early rushes are the biggest holes in IdrA's ZvT right now. Maybe he faked it? Some kind of trap  | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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