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On April 19 2011 03:12 ToastieNL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 02:51 stevarius wrote:On April 19 2011 02:35 Essentia wrote:On April 19 2011 02:19 Eldanesh wrote:
Half of the people here need to learn what cheese actually is. ppl think anything other than 100 percent standard play is cheese. What they also don't understand is that all-ins are a part of standard play. What they don't (seem to) understand too is that a strategy that, when scouted, forces and all in, is incredibly unfair? Especially if the Protoss can transition and the Zerg cannot?
Spoiler - analysis of NASL game.
+ Show Spoiler +In game 3 of the NASL, I know that Idra called his build "all-in" in the post-game interview. However, I feel that after the initial engagements (after Idra picked off several units and used up a lot of his opponent's forcefield energy), he could have easily gone back to base, defended, and easily won a macro game. He was ahead by 4 drones and up 2 bases to 1.
It was actually pretty scary there at one point during the engagement when it was like only 4 roaches against 2 zealots, 4 stalkers, and 2 sentries. The battle could have easily gone the other way with minor micro differences (especially if Idra was playing against an MC level micro protoss).
I honestly think this is what top zergs are missing is a blended style. That game Idra showed a more "July" style zerg. However, after the initial engagement when he gained the advantage, I feel that he should have reverted to the "Idra" style zerg.
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On April 19 2011 10:34 0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 03:12 ToastieNL wrote:On April 19 2011 02:51 stevarius wrote:On April 19 2011 02:35 Essentia wrote:On April 19 2011 02:19 Eldanesh wrote:
Half of the people here need to learn what cheese actually is. ppl think anything other than 100 percent standard play is cheese. What they also don't understand is that all-ins are a part of standard play. What they don't (seem to) understand too is that a strategy that, when scouted, forces and all in, is incredibly unfair? Especially if the Protoss can transition and the Zerg cannot? Spoiler - analysis of NASL game. + Show Spoiler +In game 3 of the NASL, I know that Idra called his build "all-in" in the post-game interview. However, I feel that after the initial engagements (after Idra picked off several units and used up a lot of his opponent's forcefield energy), he could have easily gone back to base, defended, and easily won a macro game. He was ahead by 4 drones and up 2 bases to 1.
It was actually pretty scary there at one point during the engagement when it was like only 4 roaches against 2 zealots, 4 stalkers, and 2 sentries. The battle could have easily gone the other way with minor micro differences (especially if Idra was playing against an MC level micro protoss).
I honestly think this is what top zergs are missing is a blended style. That game Idra showed a more "July" style zerg. However, after the initial engagement when he gained the advantage, I feel that he should have reverted to the "Idra" style zerg.
+ Show Spoiler +I think you analyzing a bit to much into this game. It was an all-in and a build order win and it's almost impossible to lose as a zerg in this situation.
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On April 19 2011 10:34 0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 03:12 ToastieNL wrote:On April 19 2011 02:51 stevarius wrote:On April 19 2011 02:35 Essentia wrote:On April 19 2011 02:19 Eldanesh wrote:
Half of the people here need to learn what cheese actually is. ppl think anything other than 100 percent standard play is cheese. What they also don't understand is that all-ins are a part of standard play. What they don't (seem to) understand too is that a strategy that, when scouted, forces and all in, is incredibly unfair? Especially if the Protoss can transition and the Zerg cannot? Spoiler - analysis of NASL game. + Show Spoiler +In game 3 of the NASL, I know that Idra called his build "all-in" in the post-game interview. However, I feel that after the initial engagements (after Idra picked off several units and used up a lot of his opponent's forcefield energy), he could have easily gone back to base, defended, and easily won a macro game. He was ahead by 4 drones and up 2 bases to 1.
It was actually pretty scary there at one point during the engagement when it was like only 4 roaches against 2 zealots, 4 stalkers, and 2 sentries. The battle could have easily gone the other way with minor micro differences (especially if Idra was playing against an MC level micro protoss).
I honestly think this is what top zergs are missing is a blended style. That game Idra showed a more "July" style zerg. However, after the initial engagement when he gained the advantage, I feel that he should have reverted to the "Idra" style zerg.
I don't think so.
Socke had more than enough stuff (and money) to obliterate Idra had he fought on Idra's base, negated reinforcements through force fields and stuff. Idra did the right thing.
And Idra's streaming again.
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Idra is indeed streaming again.
Neural parasite templar psi-storms FTW.
I like how his mouse moves around, all jittery-like, in the loading screen. It's like he's spamming APM before the game starts.
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Just got owned by marine banshee build  IdrAAAAAA :p
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On April 19 2011 11:03 bkrow wrote:Just got owned by marine banshee build IdrAAAAAA :p
I don't think I ever won against it......
And, I might add. Idra has a 100% chance of spawning close positions... even on MLG meta!
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SCDPrime: 8 rax tlo yea?
EGIdrA: just shut up
EGIdrA: your not even good at being obnoxious
lol - schooling ladder peoples :p
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1basing terran is mad pro bro.
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It amazes me how scrubs like these are even MATCHED against Idra (or other good players).
I always see very BAD (like, my level) players against some of the very top players... And almost always they cheese and have a decent enough chance to win...
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yeah i don't know how the ladder finds these guys
seriously idra just embarrasses these clowns LOL
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Double Spyre upgraded Mutas?
WTF!!!
I usually like to go heavy muta against protoss, but double spyre? Idra, this is insane!
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double spire upgrades lol
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jesus that protoss got absolutely dominated
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Proxy hatch/evo chamber block into baneling bust into hydra drops into baneling drops into mass muta switch with hydra push and more baneling drops...
I need to change my pants. I hope he released that replay just so we have an example of complete domination. No offense to his opponent of course, but damn that was entertaining.
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On April 19 2011 12:10 SiguR wrote:
I need to change my pants.
This sums up that last game. Holy shit IdrA rocks. I wonder if this is actually a new style, or he thinks this is risky play and is only doing it because of his opinions on balance.
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That protoss "Lategame" is an admitted hacker whos AKA is Sorcery. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200545) Even with hacks, Idra absolutely wrecks him, even double spire. so baller
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holy crap. Idra just went try-hard-beast-9000 apm-mode on his stream. I wonder what his apm was that game ...it looked like it just shot up so much at the end...
triple pronged drop harass w/ positional play and ling run by on 3rdwhile expanding , xfering drones injecting and spreading creep....literally all at the same time. fuckin sickness. that game was amazing. sauron zerg
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i loved the game where by minute 8 he had infestation pit up and minute 11 he was in hive tech that macro was mind blowing. and then... NP the HT's and Psystorms the enemys lol
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