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On April 04 2011 13:45 walklightwhat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. Actually, I remember of a SOTG back before Huk went to Korea where Idra stated that he thought based on where they were in the beta/early release that Kiwi had improved a lot more and was a better player, so he has thought for a long time that Kiwi is a really talented player.
He's also been quoted in asking 'how did kiwi place' etc. While in Korea he seemed to keep tabs on a few players. Kiwi being one of them
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On April 04 2011 11:19 chickensmasher wrote:Yeah, popular players are bad for esports.
Idra and other "characters" like him are the best thing for e-sports. Creating drama in the scene attracts more viewers to watch the games.
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On April 04 2011 14:29 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 13:45 walklightwhat wrote:On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. Actually, I remember of a SOTG back before Huk went to Korea where Idra stated that he thought based on where they were in the beta/early release that Kiwi had improved a lot more and was a better player, so he has thought for a long time that Kiwi is a really talented player. He's also been quoted in asking 'how did kiwi place' etc. While in Korea he seemed to keep tabs on a few players. Kiwi being one of them
Idra has mentioned on SOTG his respect for Kiwikaki, and that he has always had trouble against him and his style.
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From AskJoshy twitter:
AskJoshy JoshSuth
IdrA about to be interviewed by @Leahbjackson ! http://twitpic.com/4gnpil
Anyone got this interview ?
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http://twitter.com/#!/AskJoshy
Oh, btw this happened: "Are you CrunCher?" - IdrA "Yeah, can we be friends?" - CrunCher "Fuck you." - IdrA on the walk back from drinks
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On April 04 2011 17:24 mgl0x9 wrote:http://twitter.com/#!/AskJoshyOh, btw this happened: "Are you CrunCher?" - IdrA "Yeah, can we be friends?" - CrunCher "Fuck you." - IdrA on the walk back from drinks
Sarcastic tone by Cruncher I am assuming even with the interview BM I can't see him saying that for absolutely NO reason :/
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On the walk back from drinks
IdrA - "Are you CrunCher?"
CrunCher - "Yeah, can we be friends?"
IdrA - "Fuck you."
this made my fucking night.
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As much as I like Idra, the post-HUK game interview BM was really stupid/low/uncalled for and just made him look like a jackass.
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On April 04 2011 17:50 Jago wrote:
As much as I like Idra, the post-HUK game interview BM was really stupid/low/uncalled for and just made him look like a jackass.
Truth hurts huh?
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Pshhh Idra was just speaking the truth in his interview...
and the Post MLG party quote = even more GOLD
I <3 that guy he is the reason why I play zerg
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So has Idra been working out?
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On April 04 2011 17:50 Jago wrote:
As much as I like Idra, the post-HUK game interview BM was really stupid/low/uncalled for and just made him look like a jackass.
BM for BM, with some truth added into it, like it or not.
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On April 04 2011 18:09 XdtA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 17:50 Jago wrote:
As much as I like Idra, the post-HUK game interview BM was really stupid/low/uncalled for and just made him look like a jackass. Truth hurts huh?
How come? It's not like am a Huk fan, because I am not.
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you will always need BM players like Idra, he adds flavour to esport thats for sure. Though he might want to start winning something if he wants to keep this up. Being BM, get knocked out and then only blame imb, OP, maps, chees etc wont work forever.
Idra acts like he is nr1 but he is just so far from it.
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On April 04 2011 19:42 purpose wrote:
you will always need BM players like Idra, he adds flavour to esport thats for sure. Though he might want to start winning something if he wants to keep this up. Being BM, get knocked out and then only blame imb, OP, maps, chees etc wont work forever.
Idra acts like he is nr1 but he is just so far from it.
last time i checked he's one of the top zergs in the world so...
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On April 04 2011 14:34 Essentia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 11:19 chickensmasher wrote:On April 04 2011 11:13 AlgoFlash wrote:
blah blah blah bad for esports Yeah, popular players are bad for esports. Idra and other "characters" like him are the best thing for e-sports. Creating drama in the scene attracts more viewers to watch the games.
Creating drama attracts the wrong kind of viewers to the scene. It turns it into the cesspool that a lot of FPS communities are.
Realize that if you want e-sports to grow, you DO NOT want a trashtalking nerd gamer kid stereotype representing it and you DO NOT want fans of similar mentality. That kind of scene might attract some extra viewers in some cultures (that the community is better off without anyway), but in a long run it will only block any further growth and keep it away from mainstream.
Also, compare some other western e-sports that generate that kind of "drama" to the Korean BW scene which is strictly professional and holds up to very high standards of behaviour - it's not that hard to see which one is more successful, more popular, more profitable and more mainstream. So how about we look up to something that's actually proven to work instead?
So no, personal drama and childishness isn't a recipe for the success of e-sports. That stuff can only help some fringe competitive video games or some "sports" specifically designed to cater to that kind of "audience". Starcraft is neither, at least I hope.
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On April 04 2011 19:42 purpose wrote:
you will always need BM players like Idra, he adds flavour to esport thats for sure. Though he might want to start winning something if he wants to keep this up. Being BM, get knocked out and then only blame imb, OP, maps, chees etc wont work forever.
Idra acts like he is nr1 but he is just so far from it.
Watch his post tournament interview. He straight up gave TLO the win because he knew that TLO was ahead and deserved the win. He gave no excuses for the loss. So no when he losses straight up he often does not blame it on balance
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On April 04 2011 20:00 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 14:34 Essentia wrote:On April 04 2011 11:19 chickensmasher wrote:On April 04 2011 11:13 AlgoFlash wrote:
blah blah blah bad for esports Yeah, popular players are bad for esports. Idra and other "characters" like him are the best thing for e-sports. Creating drama in the scene attracts more viewers to watch the games. Creating drama attracts the wrong kind of viewers to the scene. It turns it into the cesspool that a lot of FPS communities are. Realize that if you want e-sports to grow, you DO NOT want a trashtalking nerd gamer kid stereotype representing it and you DO NOT want fans of similar mentality. That kind of scene might attract some extra viewers in some cultures (that the community is better off without anyway), but in a long run it will only block any further growth and keep it away from mainstream. Also, compare some other western e-sports that generate that kind of "drama" to the Korean BW scene which is strictly professional and holds up to very high standards of behaviour - it's not that hard to see which one is more successful, more popular, more profitable and more mainstream. So how about we look up to something that's actually proven to work instead? So no, personal drama and childishness isn't a recipe for the success of e-sports. That stuff can only help some fringe competitive video games or some "sports" specifically designed to cater to that kind of "audience". Starcraft is neither, at least I hope.
Im guessing you have a degree in human psyche? People in anything have always enjoyed others getting hurt, comedians, and people like idra.
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Funny how his statement stillt holds true
"either me or a Protoss is winning this Tournament"
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