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On April 04 2011 11:13 AlgoFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:23 Leach wrote:
What I love about IdrA is that he is not that mad after all, his mood isn't that affected by his results it's more like a spontaneous rage which disappears after a while That is what is sad. If he could understand that getting mad is bad maybe he would be able to control himself and play at a much higher level. Everybody gets mad at a moment or another. Being mature is just knowing how to control that. He is not playing to win, he is playing to prove something. I strongly believe that if he was a little more mature, his results would be really stellar. Every time I see him play I want to sign up in his fan club, every time he opens his mouth I feel bad for him. Boasting like a child and not respecting other players gives a bad image of esports. If he really felt that Huk was not able to beat him he would not have to say it. Saying it is just a proof that he would like it to be real. Maybe in a few years he will learn...
He gets mad because he believes his opponents did not play better than him. When he loses to a player who he thinks is actually good, such as ret, kiwi, etc, then he does gg and is not mad.
Whether you agree with that or not is your opinion on balance, and we all know his.
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I deleted my previous message because I love Idra so much but was frustrated by this interview. I see myself a few years ago when I see this, and I don't like it.
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-.- I'm not a fan of his for his personality but because I like Zerg and his play style. And pre-post release he was and still is one of the best non-Korean Zergs. His personality, is just the addition for me which I have no problem with.
On April 04 2011 11:24 AlgoFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 11:19 chickensmasher wrote:On April 04 2011 11:13 AlgoFlash wrote:
blah blah blah bad for esports Yeah, popular players are bad for esports. I don't understand. Do you know Incontrol? Do you know Jinro? Adults being pro at a videogame. And pretty popular too. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Idra as long as it is only in the game. Not gg'ing to a good or a bad player just shows how a child you are. Crying about toss being imba insted of trying to improve. Do you feel it's the behaviour of a champion?
Seriously, just go away. We have to deal with this enough when he does an interview, beats or loses to someone important. You know what kind of person he is and possibly know that he's not going to change. None of us can change him whether we would like to or not.
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wow you're retarded
User was temp banned for this post.
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As much as people hate him, the thread is one of the most viewed sc2 fan threads on the totality of this site.
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Idra on the interview after he beat huk he answered LIKE A BOSS!!! i loled so hard
idrA is truly amazing :D
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Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ...
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On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ...
Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it.
I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons:
1) people who like him want to see him win
2) people who hate him want to see him fail
It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping.
EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before.
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On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before.
On one hand you have IdrA who personifies Esports.
And on the other hand you have korean interview #30523523523
"Did you think you'd have won against X?"
I wasn't confident in the past weeks leading to the event but my team really helped me by practicing and I feel like I'm best <race>
What are you gonna do with the prize pool?
I'm going to save it.
"Anything else on your mind?"
I couldn't have done this without the support of my team and my family, my coaches helped so much <insert sponsor advertising> KoreanPlayer HWAITIIIING
In the end I'll only remember people like IdrA later because unlike 99% of the SC2 community He stands out.
Best one that stood out and immediately made me a fan
"EG masters cup always makes me feel kinda dirty, playing for the sole purpose of preventing someone from getting an awesome laptop"
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On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before.
IdrA has not played KiWiKaKi much before when was in Korea. MLG DC was the only first glimps he got of him. The last official match he's played against him was the SGL semi's where KiWi beat him. But that was a month back. I think IdrA has hit KiWi on the ladder or possibly played a few CG's or two in practice rotations because KiWi said that how IdrA plays against him and IdrA saying that he was a good player.
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On April 04 2011 12:54 Asparagus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. On one hand you have IdrA who personifies Esports. And on the other hand you have korean interview #30523523523 "Did you think you'd have won against X?" I wasn't confident in the past weeks leading to the event but my team really helped me by practicing and I feel like I'm best <race>"Anything else on your mind?" I couldn't have done this without the support of my team and my family, my coaches helped so much <insert sponsor advertising> KoreanPlayer HWAITIIIINGIn the end I'll only remember people like IdrA later because unlike 99% of the SC2 community He stands out.Best one that stood out and immediately made me a fan
"EG masters cup always makes me feel kinda dirty, playing for the sole purpose of preventing someone from getting an awesome laptop"
Totally man, what have those boring Koreans ever done for esports? If it weren't for guys like Idra there would be no interest in esports period. And we all know that the game of SC2 itself is so boring to spectate, that unless you jazz it up with personalities no one will remember any of the players or games.
Idra is like the Boxer of SC2, except better because Boxer wasn't as much of a total badass. Cause whining about a video game is cool as hell (even more cool if you swear while doing it teehee). I know cause it got me all the girls in high school. Idra speaks his mind and that's what esports is all about. Cause those lame Koreans are all being fake when they thank the people who helped them get where they are. Instead of giving something back to those people they should definitely be more worried about everyone else being bored with their shoutouts.
And even though Idra has himself said in the past for people to focus on the games and not the drama, he must have been kidding. It's probably the fans that value drama more than gameplay that Idra respects the most!
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On April 04 2011 13:12 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:54 Asparagus wrote:On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. On one hand you have IdrA who personifies Esports. And on the other hand you have korean interview #30523523523 "Did you think you'd have won against X?" I wasn't confident in the past weeks leading to the event but my team really helped me by practicing and I feel like I'm best <race>"Anything else on your mind?" I couldn't have done this without the support of my team and my family, my coaches helped so much <insert sponsor advertising> KoreanPlayer HWAITIIIINGIn the end I'll only remember people like IdrA later because unlike 99% of the SC2 community He stands out.Best one that stood out and immediately made me a fan
"EG masters cup always makes me feel kinda dirty, playing for the sole purpose of preventing someone from getting an awesome laptop" Totally man, what have those boring Koreans ever done for esports? If it weren't for guys like Idra there would be no interest in esports period. And we all know that the game of SC2 itself is so boring to spectate, that unless you jazz it up with personalities no one will remember any of the players or games. Idra is like the Boxer of SC2, except better because Boxer wasn't as much of a total badass. Cause whining about a video game is cool as hell (even more cool if you swear while doing it teehee). I know cause it got me all the girls in high school. Idra speaks his mind and that's what esports is all about. Cause those lame Koreans are all being fake when they thank the people who helped them get where they are. Instead of giving something back to those people they should definitely be more worried about everyone else being bored with their shoutouts. And even though Idra has himself said in the past for people to focus on the games and not the drama, he must have been kidding. It's probably the fans that value drama more than gameplay that Idra respects the most!
what's that thing people say about sarcasm and wit?
oh, and impressive strawman, bro.
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On April 04 2011 13:12 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:54 Asparagus wrote:On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. On one hand you have IdrA who personifies Esports. And on the other hand you have korean interview #30523523523 "Did you think you'd have won against X?" I wasn't confident in the past weeks leading to the event but my team really helped me by practicing and I feel like I'm best <race>"Anything else on your mind?" I couldn't have done this without the support of my team and my family, my coaches helped so much <insert sponsor advertising> KoreanPlayer HWAITIIIINGIn the end I'll only remember people like IdrA later because unlike 99% of the SC2 community He stands out.Best one that stood out and immediately made me a fan
"EG masters cup always makes me feel kinda dirty, playing for the sole purpose of preventing someone from getting an awesome laptop" Totally man, what have those boring Koreans ever done for esports? If it weren't for guys like Idra there would be no interest in esports period. And we all know that the game of SC2 itself is so boring to spectate, that unless you jazz it up with personalities no one will remember any of the players or games. Idra is like the Boxer of SC2, except better because Boxer wasn't as much of a total badass. Cause whining about a video game is cool as hell (even more cool if you swear while doing it teehee). I know cause it got me all the girls in high school. Idra speaks his mind and that's what esports is all about. Cause those lame Koreans are all being fake when they thank the people who helped them get where they are. Instead of giving something back to those people they should definitely be more worried about everyone else being bored with their shoutouts. And even though Idra has himself said in the past for people to focus on the games and not the drama, he must have been kidding. It's probably the fans that value drama more than gameplay that Idra respects the most!
Are you seriously in an IdrA fan thread for the sole purpose of trolling or falsifying peoples opinions? The amount of work you put in trying to type that oh so perfect perfect post was not really worth it since i nor the hundreds/thousands of fans here could give a shit about what you think. people have their opinions here and it's a place that's heavily biased towards IdrA. So! if you don't like it there's other places you can be : ]
TLDR: you're being an idiot right now.
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On April 04 2011 13:12 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:54 Asparagus wrote:On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. On one hand you have IdrA who personifies Esports. And on the other hand you have korean interview #30523523523 "Did you think you'd have won against X?" I wasn't confident in the past weeks leading to the event but my team really helped me by practicing and I feel like I'm best <race>"Anything else on your mind?" I couldn't have done this without the support of my team and my family, my coaches helped so much <insert sponsor advertising> KoreanPlayer HWAITIIIINGIn the end I'll only remember people like IdrA later because unlike 99% of the SC2 community He stands out.Best one that stood out and immediately made me a fan
"EG masters cup always makes me feel kinda dirty, playing for the sole purpose of preventing someone from getting an awesome laptop" Totally man, what have those boring Koreans ever done for esports? If it weren't for guys like Idra there would be no interest in esports period. And we all know that the game of SC2 itself is so boring to spectate, that unless you jazz it up with personalities no one will remember any of the players or games. Idra is like the Boxer of SC2, except better because Boxer wasn't as much of a total badass. Cause whining about a video game is cool as hell (even more cool if you swear while doing it teehee). I know cause it got me all the girls in high school. Idra speaks his mind and that's what esports is all about. Cause those lame Koreans are all being fake when they thank the people who helped them get where they are. Instead of giving something back to those people they should definitely be more worried about everyone else being bored with their shoutouts. And even though Idra has himself said in the past for people to focus on the games and not the drama, he must have been kidding. It's probably the fans that value drama more than gameplay that Idra respects the most!
I think it's pretty rude to troll someone's fan club. Especially just because you are a hater. I won't be surprised if you are banned.
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The only Zerg to break the top 8 at MLG Dallas. That's crazy.
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On April 04 2011 13:12 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:54 Asparagus wrote:On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before. On one hand you have IdrA who personifies Esports. And on the other hand you have korean interview #30523523523 "Did you think you'd have won against X?" I wasn't confident in the past weeks leading to the event but my team really helped me by practicing and I feel like I'm best <race>"Anything else on your mind?" I couldn't have done this without the support of my team and my family, my coaches helped so much <insert sponsor advertising> KoreanPlayer HWAITIIIINGIn the end I'll only remember people like IdrA later because unlike 99% of the SC2 community He stands out.Best one that stood out and immediately made me a fan
"EG masters cup always makes me feel kinda dirty, playing for the sole purpose of preventing someone from getting an awesome laptop" Totally man, what have those boring Koreans ever done for esports? If it weren't for guys like Idra there would be no interest in esports period. And we all know that the game of SC2 itself is so boring to spectate, that unless you jazz it up with personalities no one will remember any of the players or games. Idra is like the Boxer of SC2, except better because Boxer wasn't as much of a total badass. Cause whining about a video game is cool as hell (even more cool if you swear while doing it teehee). I know cause it got me all the girls in high school. Idra speaks his mind and that's what esports is all about. Cause those lame Koreans are all being fake when they thank the people who helped them get where they are. Instead of giving something back to those people they should definitely be more worried about everyone else being bored with their shoutouts. And even though Idra has himself said in the past for people to focus on the games and not the drama, he must have been kidding. It's probably the fans that value drama more than gameplay that Idra respects the most!
Is it a trend nowaday to insult people in their own fanclub ? This is teamliquid, not some random forums where you can do such things.
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On April 04 2011 12:38 ratMortar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:21 Starlos wrote:
Can someone explain to me why so many people consider IdrA's BM bad for the e-sport ? I really fail to understand the reasoning behind their argument. Is IdrA turning away potential viewers or people interested in Starcraft II because of his BM ? Please, I just want to understand ... Because people think that SC2, unlike any other competitive sport or activity, shouldn't tolerate rudeness, cockiness or trash talking. They think everyone should be put into boxes and made to behave the same way and say gg at the end of a game even if they don't mean it. I'm not saying him talking shit is a good thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed or that it harms the "image" of e-sports is ridiculous. If anything his attitude should attract a lot more people for 2 seperate reasons: 1) people who like him want to see him win 2) people who hate him want to see him fail It's win/win for e-sports. Unless IdrA goes on a racial tirade it's not going to hurt the scene. People either root for him or against him but as long as they tune in, he's helping. EDIT: Anybody else amazed by the number of times IdrA has mentioned that Kiwikaki is good recently? He didn't use to feel that way before.
Actually, I remember of a SOTG back before Huk went to Korea where Idra stated that he thought based on where they were in the beta/early release that Kiwi had improved a lot more and was a better player, so he has thought for a long time that Kiwi is a really talented player.
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Dude, if you could figure out what episode it was I would really appreciate it.
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On April 04 2011 13:41 Proko wrote:
The only Zerg to break the top 8 at MLG Dallas. That's crazy.
Yeah Zerg had a pretty bad showing this MLG. Ret, Haypro and Catz all didn't do very good 
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On April 04 2011 14:01 Nevy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 13:41 Proko wrote:
The only Zerg to break the top 8 at MLG Dallas. That's crazy. Yeah Zerg had a pretty bad showing this MLG. Ret, Haypro and Catz all didn't do very good
4 toss,3terran,1zerg
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